The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month. Options

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i will give you five dollars restitution for slavary.

if you promise to stop typing.

forever.

[sadolakced acid]

hey, what month is asian history month?

what month is holocaust rememberance month?

blacks its different. White ppl are scared of blacks for watever reason. maybe for physical issues, or maybe b/c they are scared what would happen if black ppl truly gained majority power, but they are definitely scared. NO I DON'T MEAN EVERY f**king WHITE PERSON IS SCARED OF EVERY f**king BLACK PERSON. It's true in most cases though.

i bow to your superior intellect and infallible facts.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

oh oh!

wal*mart doesn't have a "voices of women" or "voices of asians!" video series...

that right there is reason alone to believe that blacks are unfairly favoured in today's society. wal*mart likes them better than chicks and asians. so run to wal*mart for help getting over slavary. maybe they have a support group or something. or at least a couple more people to join your bizarre ebonics ridden crusade to find justice for the past.

pshh.

also.

because i've given up on this thread. and am now just being an amazing asstastic ass. this thread officially went from somewhat interesting and thought provoking to "HEY! LET'S SEE HOW MUCH I CAN ANGER THIS KID!"...because, i honestly don't care about any of it. black history month doesn't upset or offend me. it doesn't even effect me in anyway. i have no parties for it. it doesn't get it thrown in my face. i respect the past and i am sorry it ever happened. but...this crap is just so hilarious and childish to me. post after post of trying to prove that black people are THE most persecuted, oppressed, and unfairly treated people in a country built on a history of persecution, oppression, and unfair treatment of ALL people. so, i'm gonna be hilarious and childish.


carry on, children.

[sadolakced acid]

hey, it's guys like skillakilla that make the debate forum entertaining.

let's not drive him away. yet.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

but it turned from a debate into a pissing contest.

and...i've never liked pissing contests.

[sillakilla220]

hahahahaha


well... this has been entertaining nontheless as acid has pointed out. it's funny how race is always a hot rod for discussion.

hey, what month is asian history month?

i dont know thats what i was wondering.



its ok to get frustrated. I know a lot of people have been shamelessly shot down and criticized by ya boy. All I can do is offer some advice before people give up:

nothing_plus_this, its ok you're still young so you have plenty of time to develop a grasp of reality... consider leaving maine at least once it will prolly be culture shock and you don't even have to leave the country...




everything got too wound up when ppl started catchin feelings... i figured a bunch of emo kids would start to get "emotional" and riled up... does it really bother ppl that black history month gets more exposure than other minorities? hey if it bothers you that much, next time these mysterious other minority months come up why don't you post a few fliers or throw a party? nah you'd rather come on here and post some bullshit half-ass complaints




















never argue with fools 'cuz those from afar cant tell who is who

[vash1530]

what she means when she says most whit ppl r afraid of blacks iz that they are afraid of offending them.

[sillakilla220]

what she means when she says most whit ppl r afraid of blacks iz that they are afraid of offending them

nah i dont think so buddy.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i am the same age as you. i have been outside of maine plenty of times. and i am not immature in any way. and i have a pretty damn good grasp on reality. just because someone disagrees with you or thinks you're a complete tool does not mean they are somehow impaired or immature or naive. it simply means that they see things differently than you do. which, is something i don't even understand in my situation. i never once said that black history month shouldn't exist. i never once said that all blacks should just stop whining and go back to africa. i never once said that black people don't deserve to be treated the same as everyone else. i never said that racism is right or that there even is any in the concept of black history month -- i said there was partiality, yes. but that is most certainly not racism. it is simply america attempting to please the african american community. which brings me to my next point...


i don't understand what african americans want. from society in general, but mostly white people. you alone, in this thread, have made it clear that you don't believe enough is being done to honour them. but, it is impossible to bow down and name them as the master race, to give them all the money in the world to compensate for the pain and suffering of the past. it is impossible to make EVERYONE feel that they aren't criminals, slackers, self-indulgant little twits, loud-mouthed retards, or any other cruel and unnecessary filth that people spew from their mouths. so, what, realisitically, is it that they want? MORE rights? MORE protection against the inevitable prescence of racism and bigotry? MORE money, MORE opportunities, MORE respect, MORE days of the year where they can hold their heads up and say they've come a long way? i just don't understand why...when the rest of the world needs to fight and fend for themselves for the most part, black americans depend on the government and laws to do everything for them. that race card is so played out, you can't even see the lone black slave on the face of it anymore.

i am not being immature, naive, or ignorant. i'm not even being as idealistic as i'm known for. i'm simply saying that...it's a bit much. it's a bit tiresome and a bit confusing to have to tip toe around certain people as though they're kings and queens while everyone else is simply demanding equality. there are far more pressing matters in the world, this country, than giving black people a clean slate for everyone occupying these lands. as unfortunate as it is, the more fuss is made about slavary and what you feel is owed to you, the more people are going to crawl out from the woodwork to tell you that you're nothing but a nigger. or that you're pathetic. or worthless. why force that upon yourself? why make such a loud uproar when you know it's simply going to cause you pain? is that what you want? are you all just such huge masochists that you NEED those words and those sneers in your face just to get up in the morning and make something of yourself?

please. explain. and start with what more we can give to the african american community that will make them feel as though they are part of this country. because right now, i honestly don't think they want to be part of anything. i honestly think they want to be seen as completely different and seperate people from the rest of the population. they want their own set of laws, their own set of drinking fountains, so to speak. and that makes absolutely no sense to me.

segregation is segregation no matter who is imposing it. when black people segregate themselves, it is exactly the same as when the mighty rich white man segregated them in the past. turning the tables and reversing roles will not make the situation any different.

and please, don't just resort to calling me names or assuming that i know nothing. because like i said, i am the same age as you. i have lived the same years on this earth as you have. and i have had plenty of experience in the world and with people. you belittling me is not making a point in any way.

This post has been edited by nothing_plus_this: Mar 16 2006, 01:14 PM

[NoSex]

Alot of people are talking about predjudice and levels of discrimination but no one has really built an argument yet to justify a Black History Month using such pretense. People have been bringing up the discrimination of other minorities and implying these offenses as pretense to a "X History Month" or to discredit that argument for a "Black History Month."

Why does past discrimination justify a "History Month?"
What practical use do we have for such a "History Month?"
When can such a month be exhausted?
In an age of equality, at least within federal law, why do we need such a month?
And, at that point, what kind of message do you think is being sent by holding onto such a month?

[Note: Slavery is bad. We all know that. Racism is bad. We all know that. A 'History Month' is something we don't need to remind us. And, those who are racist, and down with slavery, aren't going to be convinced by a 'History Month.' If anything, this will just fuel their hatred.]

Alright. Today, institunionalized racism, at least the kind we have seen in the past, does not exist. So, why do the offenses of the past justify the recognition of a Black History Month, I mean... we have a history class. Why do we need to have a month for learning, specifically, about black history? And why is it such a powder puff history lesson?!

If anything, I would say Black History Month has exhausted its usefullness. We learn about blacks during normal history class. This was not exactly true when the month was created, but it is true today. Carter Woodson, the African-American historian who founded Black History Month, wanted to see the month eliminated once blacks were recognized in regular history classes.

Morgan Freeman might have said it best when he said, "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

[nothing_plus_thi...]

[want_u_2_want_me]

[/quote]Seriously, enlighten us to another race or class of people you have considered more prejudiced against in the history of our country which should get its own month. Women rightfully get their month as well, seeing how it is March. How come I don't see any threads complaining about their month? J/W.... As I was saying though, besides women the only group/class/race I view as being largely discriminated against in our society is gays... but that's another topic... Ok, so Irish and Chinese built the railroads... this was one isolated event in our history. Give or take 30 yrs. Maybe blacks are considered too favorably in some instances of our country. I don't agree with that but I can understand the perspective. To question a motnh is foolish[/quote]

really? i didnt even kno women had their own history month nd thats probably because its not made nearly as much as a big as black history month thats why nobodys complaining because women dont cry sexism as much as blacks use the racecard

[*CrackedRearView*]

really? i didnt even kno women had their own history month nd thats probably because its not made nearly as much as a big as black history month thats why nobodys complaining because women dont cry sexism as much as blacks use the racecard

OHHHH!!! Disss.....

[TeeNage_WasTeLan...]

Growing up as a white kid, I always assumed racism was of the past. Blacks weren't segregated anymore, they had equal opportunities, even had the advantages of affirmative action and race quotas at universities. Over the past few months though I've really tried opening my eyes to different perspectives by following national news more closely and I've noticed a few things. Race DEFINITELY is still an issue in our society, especially black and white. Mexicans have garnered more attention but for different reasons. In terms of blacks and whites it seems like a drama that will never end. The newer generation of white kids, like myself, have never seen blatant racism of the past, so naturally assume its gone. The Duke scandal is a perfect example. If it were a group of black basketball players that raped a white stripper while making racial slurs (not to mention directing racial slurs at a few pedestrians) there would be ppl over the country calling for their deaths, and overall I think the response would be more outrage. I think b/c they are white it seems like nationally ppl are more like, well let's wait for the DNA tests then we will make up our minds. It's disgusting that these players would think they would get away with it and I think it just further shows that racism is still very rampant in our society, and in a way justifies the social programs implemented to help africans.

[xoxo_proud]

Oh how fun this thread is!

First off I've never heard of a Women's History Month. Probably because it's not as commercialized as Black History Month or any other history month.

"I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

Amen to that

[TeeNage_WasTeLan...]

Amen to that? Black history is American history, but not embraced by all. In my family we never had discussions on black struggles in America, and I'm sure many other families have neglected it as well. I think its the lack of this information that leads a lot of the racist families/people to their ignorant ideas. Think about it, black history month may seem racist, but at least it makes ppl conscious of black history. In elementary school, black history month seemed like the only time we discussed blacks. It wasn't infused in with the other discussions like it should. Maybe it was the teacher's plan to do this? Perhaps, but I feel like without Black History Month, or at least some reminder, many kids would not be educated.

[xoxo_proud]

I have never once in my life discussed anymore black history during Black History Month than I did any other month in school.

What about Irish history? Asian history? Native American history (and every other races' history for that matter)? We should give every race their own month. Hell! While we're at it why dont we add more months so we can fit everyone in?

[TeeNage_WasTeLan...]

I have never once in my life discussed anymore black history during Black History Month than I did any other month in school.

What about Irish history? Asian history? Native American history (and every other races' history for that matter)? We should give every race their own month. Hell! While we're at it why dont we add more months so we can fit everyone in?

I don't think you are getting the point. Blacks and whites have directly had problems with one another historically in our country, with blacks being the suppressed. If you don't think so, well to be honest you are mistaken. You know why there's a black history month? It's to respect the heritage of a race that was done wrong for many years. I don't want to turn this into who was shitted on the most though, because thats not what it's about. Black history month may not be the right answer to the problem, but at least its something for now. 300 yrs of slavery and another 100 in unequal rights and you're telling me that one month set aside to show respect is unwarranted?

[kimmytree]

this is where i say what i always say.

why isnt there a holocaust remembrance month? why isnt there even a holocaust rememberance day? no jewish history month?

jews have nothing.
so, before acting like its only blacks that were prejudiced against, actually look back in history.

alllsssooo, repeating what i said in the other thread, have you been enslaved? did you work for "the white man"?
no.
did your mom? or dad? no.

maybe someone in your family did, i dont know.
it doesnt matter.

my grandparents lived during the holocaust, and im not going around asking people to give me money because they lost some of theirs.

Exactly. I agree. Its pathetic that there isnt even a Holocaust [u]day[/]. I personally dont think anyone in my family died in the Holocaust, but I have several relitives who died in East Germany during WW2.

I can understand why African Americans think they deserve their own history month. I'm not saying we should take it away from them. Alot of black people that I know get mad over slavery and the way they used to be treated. Black people used to be treated much differently, especially pre - 1970's. But slavery? If someone in their family was a slave, It would be a distant relitive. Its not like its their parents or grandparents.

Like someone's already said, other nationalitys deserve their own month as well.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Alot of people are talking about predjudice and levels of discrimination but no one has really built an argument yet to justify a Black History Month using such pretense. People have been bringing up the discrimination of other minorities and implying these offenses as pretense to a "X History Month" or to discredit that argument for a "Black History Month."

Why does past discrimination justify a "History Month?"
What practical use do we have for such a "History Month?"
When can such a month be exhausted?
In an age of equality, at least within federal law, why do we need such a month?
And, at that point, what kind of message do you think is being sent by holding onto such a month?

[Note: Slavery is bad. We all know that. Racism is bad. We all know that. A 'History Month' is something we don't need to remind us. And, those who are racist, and down with slavery, aren't going to be convinced by a 'History Month.' If anything, this will just fuel their hatred.]

Alright. Today, institunionalized racism, at least the kind we have seen in the past, does not exist. So, why do the offenses of the past justify the recognition of a Black History Month, I mean... we have a history class. Why do we need to have a month for learning, specifically, about black history? And why is it such a powder puff history lesson?!

If anything, I would say Black History Month has exhausted its usefullness. We learn about blacks during normal history class. This was not exactly true when the month was created, but it is true today. Carter Woodson, the African-American historian who founded Black History Month, wanted to see the month eliminated once blacks were recognized in regular history classes.

Morgan Freeman might have said it best when he said, "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

Let's read this again, thanks!

[*KCreateBlog*]

Kanye West
I state the stats to stunt - I don't need to front//
I make black history every day - I don't need a month//

Yeah I said that in the other thread, you don't like it, then give me a brand new verbal warning.

Besides this thread is augmented //
I like things authentic//

This kid is the absolute truth , yeah no joke
Who him, he emerged from the crack smoke (dayummmmmmmn)

I agree with him, black history is everyday, I even have my shirt on that says

"Every month is black music month"


From Rap, Rock, Jazz, Country, I appreciate what the black man created and has speard to other cultures even if they don't get the credit they deserve.

[mandilynne]

I agree with the majority of the people that posted here. Its not fair at all. So much for equality.
And for the non history buffs. Black people from afirca sold themselves to us. Thats right. They knew we were going to treat them as slaves, and they sold thier people anyway.

[minioligo]

I agree with the majority of the people that posted here. Its not fair at all. So much for equality.
And for the non history buffs. Black people from afirca sold themselves to us. Thats right. They knew we were going to treat them as slaves, and they sold thier people anyway.

....You're kidding.

[mandilynne]

no im not kidding, Nice smart ass reply though. Along the west coast of Africa, from the Cameroons in the south to Senegal in the north, Europeans built some sixty forts that served as trading posts. European sailors seeking riches brought rum, cloth, guns, and other goods to these posts and traded them for human beings. This human cargo was transported across the Atlantic Ocean and sold to New World slave owners, who bought slaves to work their crops.

European traders such as Nicolas Owen waited at these forts for slaves. African traders transported slaves from the interior of Africa. Equiano and others found themselves sold and traded more than once, often in slave markets. African merchants, the poor, royalty -- anyone -- could be abducted in the raids and wars that were undertaken by Africans to secure slaves that they could trade.

[*Uronacid*]

Well, I'm black, and like I don't know...

White people have done a shit load for the world. I mean, I'm not racist, I just feel like it's unfair to them.

We should have a Yellow Month (Asian), and a Red (Indian) too...

We could have:

• White History Month - December (snow)
• Yellow History Month - August (summer sun)
• Red History Month - October (the red fall leaves)

Red and Yellow,
Black or White,
We are precious in his sight,
Jesus loves the little children of the world.

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