College Opportunity Options

[ley]

College being free would help a lot of people out. My parents paid
my tuition for my first major, and after that it has been all me.
I think i work harder knowing that if i dont go to classes im
wasting my own time and money. I think if the goverment did increase financial aid because lets face it college will never be free, then their should be a catch. You should be required to maintain ur grades and finish your degree or suffer some sort of consequence.

[Uronacid]

College being free would help a lot of people out. My parents paid
my tuition for my first major, and after that it has been all me.
I think i work harder knowing that if i dont go to classes im
wasting my own time and money. I think if the goverment did increase financial aid because lets face it college will never be free, then their should be a catch. You should be required to maintain ur grades and finish your degree or suffer some sort of consequence.

That's a good compromise. I believe this is the way it should be.

[batman]

^ ... isn't that just the same idea as a scholarship?

[Uronacid]

^ ... isn't that just the same idea as a scholarship?

no

[kryogenix]

College being free would help a lot of people out. My parents paid
my tuition for my first major, and after that it has been all me.
I think i work harder knowing that if i dont go to classes im
wasting my own time and money. I think if the goverment did increase financial aid because lets face it college will never be free, then their should be a catch. You should be required to maintain ur grades and finish your degree or suffer some sort of consequence.

Impossible. There is no such thing as free tuition. SOMEONE is paying the bill. If not you, then other taxpayers.

How is this fair?

Not to mention, once inner city kids start failing to maintain their grades, people are going to start screaming racism, or that they need more funding... anything as an excuse for their shortcomings.

[batman]

no

tuition money based on maintaining a certain GPA ... sounds like an easy as shit scholarship with no prerequisite.

and i agree with james.

College should be free!
If college was free do you know how many people would attend...alot. Do you know what that would do to our society...maybe make us smarter.

Shitty example, but here goes... if cars were free, you know how many people would go out and get some cars? A lot. Oh wait, but then who's gonna pay for the cost of the cars? Who's gonna make the cars for free?

As horrible as it might sound, education is a commodity. You're paying for the value of your degree.

If college was free, more people would want to attend, but less people would be accepted to cover for costs. The quality of professors, programs, etc will go down. Taxpayer dollars will go up. How is this any better?

[illriginal]

Free education is the way to go

[karmakiller]

^ Free education would be nice, but I don't think any (good) professors would be willing to work for free... and like most people are saying if the person who is attending and directly benefiting from being in college is not paying for it then tax payers will.

[illriginal]

lol Yes it's free to the student but in reality the school and all the employees are funded by the tax payers. I don't mind that at all, heck in fact I wish I was given a list of things that I could choose to pay taxes on, that way I'm supporting the things I want to prosper

[ley]

Impossible. There is no such thing as free tuition. SOMEONE is paying the bill. If not you, then other taxpayers.

How is this fair?

Not to mention, once inner city kids start failing to maintain their grades, people are going to start screaming racism, or that they need more funding... anything as an excuse for their shortcomings.

I believe i did say college will "never" be free, and exactly my point
people blame they're "shortcomings" on others..this is simply unacceptable
they should be held accountable for they're lack of responsibility.

[-DressYourEyelid...]

i'm just going to assume that all of you posting here in this thread are american. i was just wondering what the average tuition fee is for college/university over there.

[ley]

I would have to say on average about an arm and a leg.

[BamBamBoogie]

I would have to say on average about an arm and a leg.

lol

i'm just going to assume that all of you posting here in this thread are american. i was just wondering what the average tuition fee is for college/university over there.

I'd say about $15-$20k/semester on average

[mipadi]

i'm just going to assume that all of you posting here in this thread are american. i was just wondering what the average tuition fee is for college/university over there.

It can vary a lot, based on whether the school is a public, semi-public, or private school. You might be able to go to a public school for as little as $10,000/year; a semi-public school might $15,000-$20,000/year; and a private school can be around $35,000-$50,000/year. This generally includes room & board, too, since most US students live in dorms at schools. At my undergrad institution, a year of school with room & board was about $48,000/year.

But most US students also don't bear that cost themselves. Most get some form of financial aide from the federal and state governments, and from the school itself. For example, I only paid about $8000-$12,000/year to attend college; the rest came from a scholarship given to me by the school. Private schools generally have a much higher ability to award scholarships than public or semi-public schools, since they usually have wealthier alumni donating money to the school.

Finally, there are also community colleges, which are small local schools that some students go to. Those can cost as little as a few thousand dollars a year, but you usually can't get anything above an associate's degree at community colleges. (I don't know if they have associate's degrees in other countries. In the US, an associate's degree represents 2 years of study, a bachelor's degree represents 4 years, a master's degree represents about 6 years, and a doctorate represents anything above about 8 years of study; some doctorate programs take as much as 11 years beyond undergrad in the US.)

As you can see, higher education is very much a business in the US.

[sixfive]

My schooling is somewhere around $22,000/year including room/board. Local community colleges cost about 800/semester, plus another 300 or so for books. Sell them back and you spend a little under $2,000 / year at community college.

[kryogenix]

I believe i did say college will "never" be free, and exactly my point
people blame they're "shortcomings" on others..this is simply unacceptable
they should be held accountable for they're lack of responsibility.

So who's going to hold you accountable for your atrocious command of the english language?

[-DressYourEyelid...]

holy shit. are you f*cking serious?
the average tuition fee for university in canada is $4,524 per year. [mine is about 5,500 per year]
and students across the country are protesting to get the price lowered still :/

[Uronacid]

holy shit. are you f*cking serious?
the average tuition fee for university in canada is $4,524 per year. [mine is about 5,500 per year]
and students across the country are protesting to get the price lowered still :/

LOL, you guys have it easy. Here in NY it's like $10,000 a year.

[batman]

my university is private and costs close to 50k/year. -_-

oh well. opportunities + connections + location... worth it, imo.

[hypnotique]

I miss Ireland

Idk its a struggle for me cause i come from no money nor did my parents save up for me and I have no connections.

But idk im still a fan for more promotion of trade schools and less of the whole "you need a degree to be someone" bullshit.

[-DressYourEyelid...]

But idk im still a fan for more promotion of trade schools and less of the whole "you need a degree to be someone" bullshit.

i agree. degrees and diplomas are overrated. despite having a doctor with diplomas on the walls from the finest medical institutes, he still manages to misdiagnose, be a prick, be a quack, ect, ect.

[batman]

^ You're a complete idiot if you think that having a diploma from a prestigious university makes someone infallible. That comes with the whole "being human" deal. A "doctor" with no diplomas will also manage to misdiagnose, be a prick, etc, etc. And, personally, I feel safer in the hands of somebody with a degree.

[-DressYourEyelid...]

^ You're a complete idiot if you think that having a diploma from a prestigious university makes someone infallible.

i'm confused. i know you're trying to contradict me [somehow], but you're just restating what i said. and no where did i say that i thought having "a diploma from a prestigious university makes someone infallible". in fact, i implied quite the opposite.

[batman]

way to not read the rest of the post.

i'm saying that even though people with degrees sometimes make mistakes, they're far less likely to than someone who doesn't have a degree.

[-DressYourEyelid...]

way to not read the rest of the post.

i'm saying that even though people with degrees sometimes make mistakes, they're far less likely to than someone who doesn't have a degree.

thanks for stating the obvious.
i realize no one is going to go to an uncertified surgeon. wtf?

read my post. maybe you'll realize we both are arguing similar points. all i'm saying is that many doctors, though they've gone through years of medical school, are less qualified than they are made out to be. ---> this is where your point comes in about being "human". if you have a doctor lacking all sense of humanity, he does not belong in the medical profession working with the wellbeings' of others.