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My feeble attempt at the explanation of Christianity., You ask questions, and I'll try to answer.
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Nov 14 2007, 01:18 PM) *
I have to say Podo. I really had no idea you were that into this stuff.

I didn't either.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 14 2007, 07:22 PM) *
I find that most intelligent people understand at one point in their life that God's call is sometimes unbearable. Look at Da Vinci. Mozart, Havel, Boyle, Galileo, Newton, Churchill. One day you will realize there's something bigger than what you can imagine, and although the answers may not all be evident, you will have no choice but to bow down in his utter glory.

I find it unlikely but you never know. That's why I'm Agnostic.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 14 2007, 02:09 PM) *
God doesn't get bent out of shape in the way that you're assuming. He gets bent out of shape as in he gets sad. The evidence is here. The power of God is here on this planet, and you still do not see.

God won't do anything else for you if you choose to ignore it all.


i don't see anything that leads me to believe there is a god though, so i don't think im ignoring anything. there isn't anything for me to ignore. other than claims that other people make, and they're just as human as me, so there's no reason for me to believe they would be any more right than i am.

god doesn't need to do anything for me, i don't ask anything of him or expect him to

i'm not sure why god would be sad i don't believe in him. he's all knowing, he knew before he made me i'd not accept it. so if he didn't wanna be sad he shouldn't have made me. wouldn't bother me, i wouldn't be able to be bothered by it.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 14 2007, 01:22 PM) *
I didn't either.


When did you become a Christian?
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Nov 14 2007, 01:39 PM) *
When did you become a Christian?

Been a "Christian" all my life.

Became a follower of Christ about a little more than half a year now.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 14 2007, 12:03 PM) *
You're easier to evangelize to. whistling.gif

Than? :)

I don't know that I'm easy to evangelize to, I'm pretty faithless. I'll listen to all the moralities and learn from the Bible, but I still don't see how any of this is going to make me a believer or instill faith in "God/Jesus" in me. I'll always think that there's a higher being that brought everything into existence, but I don't know if I'll ever believe in the God of Abraham. My parents tried to fix this by sending me to church classes, confirmation etc, but I think that was a wrong approach to take. I was also once convinced of it by a youth minster who was training me at work (environmental job, not church lol). I realized that the only reason I was believing him is because I wanted to have a higher power to rely on and fall back on. At the time I wasn't the best student and was having issues with my parents (due to me being a little shit). Anyways, I took a look at life from a different perspective and realized that I was just vulnerable to his propaganda (propaganda is such a harsh word, I don't mean it harshly). Regardless, I'll stop ranting :) I'm enjoying this debate, kudos to you
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 14 2007, 02:25 PM) *
Been a "Christian" all my life.

Became a follower of Christ about a little more than half a year now.

I have been a "Christian" all my life too. What's the difference? I'm pretty religious, but I don't share with people unless they ask.
 
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Also, what if someone were to accept god but say nothing about it, tell it to no one. It shouldn't matter, but does it? Does one have to openly pronounce his faith?
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:01 PM
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^ It matters. It would be considered as not being proud of God. I heard that in church.

God is very demanding.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:07 PM
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Also, could this be supported with biblical evidence? Is it actually in the Bible or is that what the Pope/Vatican/Priests/Reverends/Ministers say?

Oh man I need to talk to my uncle about all this. Lutheran Minister. I'd be interested in what he has to say about the matter.

Edit:: I'm not trying to seem like an ass, just curious.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:11 PM
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I think it's in the book of Jobs or Psalms when God said something about dancing for him in public, I'm not quite sure. But anyway, I DEFINITELY know that preachers say we have to be 'out there' for God or something along those lines.

Btw, you didn't come off as an ass.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:14 PM
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I can though, and know I do quite often :)

Ah well if it's mentioned in the Bible I really have no basis for argument against it there lol. Unless of course, it's one of those things thats written very obscurely and is up to interpretation.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:18 PM
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Well, it's forgotten =)

Anyway, maybe someone with good knowledge of the Bible should respond to this question. I think it's a sin from what I've heard so far. In the book of Psalms, it's all about shout for God, sing and dance and things like that.

God has high needs, what can we do?
 
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QUOTE(Steven @ Nov 14 2007, 02:13 PM) *
It's rumored to have looked something like

I kid though. In all seriousness, I find this interesting. I'm interested and have been for some time in evolution. Kinda goes with the whole deist thing haha.

Off topic, but has evolution been discussed in podo's thread? Don't want to bring it back up if it has.



QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 14 2007, 02:17 PM) *
that cracked me up

i don't think it's been discussed in his thread, we touched briefly on the first two genesis chapters in the bible but didn't really go into detail about evolution. i thought about it before but wasn't sure if he wanted to go there. the bible's disagreement with evolution is definitely a big problem i have with Christianity.


Christians, what do you think about evolution? I'm a pretty firm believer as it's kinda hard to disprove, what with adaptation, darwanism, etc.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 14 2007, 04:11 PM) *
But anyway, I DEFINITELY know that preachers say we have to be 'out there' for God or something along those lines.


if they say that, i definitely think they need to stop. people running around being "out there for god" hasn't helped anything. there's a ton of idiots running around being "out there for god" and don't seem to have any clue what they're talking about. it goes back to what podo said about things going downhill once people started condemning others
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:24 PM
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I find it ridiculous to be the off spring of a chimp. Btw, HAHA @ Suzzette's picture.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:26 PM
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^why?
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:28 PM
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Because, it's a chimp for the love of Satan. I am more for the big bang theory.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:29 PM
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^why are u "more" for that?

it's not as if a chimp randomly one day gave birth to a human or something. i don't think u know anything about evolution, but im assuming.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:32 PM
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Haha. I know about evolution. I've read the debate threads, I've informed myself online, I've watched the national geographic chanel. It seems probable but I can't get passed 'it's a chimp'.

I'd rather believe in the big bang theory because I personally find it more probable.

Although, I am not 100 % sure about anything. Who knows, maybe God created us?
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:35 PM
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i still don't think u have a clue what ur talking about, personally.

since we're talking about human evolution, not the origin of the universe then i don't really even know why u said that. but ok

maybe i'm thinking of something else and not getting ur post
 
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More probable that all of a sudden there was a huge explosion then there was earth with humans here at the same time as the apes that have been carbon dated ages before humans who have very similar characteristics to apes who also have similar species that become more and more human like becoming younger and younger each time? Worst grammatical post, ever.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:38 PM
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yeah, forget what i said. x2 to steven
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:38 PM
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I am not talking about the origin of the univers rather evolution. I don't want to believe that we evolued from chimps. It's a personal belief, simple. I am not saying that I am 100 % sure that I'm right, it doesn't rock my boat.

EDIT// There was a big bang, one thing led to another, humans were formed.
Again, I said I was more for this theory than the ape theory. I am as unsure as anything.
 
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 14 2007, 04:38 PM) *
I don't want to believe that we evolued from chimps. It's a personal belief, simple.


ya might be more christian than i thought
 

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