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where is jusun?
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:13 PM
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Hey guys, let's back off; I don't think anyone wants to fight. Take it to PMs if you insist though.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:28 PM
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i think there are lot of people in the world that want things that they cant have or already know is impossible.

sorry if i feel like i've been repeating myself for the past hour, but i do, and it's a big waste of time. if a person cant take the time to figure out that a person obviously cant be back on staff if they were never on staff to begin with, it's their own fault if i think they're being dumb.

and this is my last post on that subject.

to get back on topic, jusun, i dont see how you can say you havent really been here often enough to have real insight on the matter, and then say that the mods should be respected for the job they're doing. they havent been doing a great job. some of them already know that.

if you are getting a lot of complaints, that is something you should address. i dont think that means you have to be here every day and deal with every problem that comes up, but this is one that's certainly worth your time to listen about. you're getting these complaints for a reason.

you say you respect the mods because theyve kept this site running since its inception, but none of them were even there at the start. you're categorizing the moderating staff under one entity, past and present. the past staff got the job done in a more fair and efficient manner. the current staff isnt. i think that's the point you're missing here.

and im addressing JUSUN here, not anyone else. i dont need to hear any of the moderators positions or opinons on this, because i already know where they stand.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 28 2007, 04:00 AM) *
Let's roll. If only you knew.
If a lot of people are complaining about the staff, doesn't that say something?

ah you caught me, i was exaggerating. to be honest with you, there's only two people that complained to me personally either by pm or im. of these two, one keeps coming to me again and again complaining how the staff handles situations that said person is guilty of perpetrating. funny thing is, had said person not done anything to intentionally get under the staff's skin, there wouldn't have been any problems in the first place. even more, said person is unable to see this rather simple fact. does this person sound familiar to you by any chance? rolleyes.gif


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They are not making the community more enjoyable. Police are fine. The gestapo isn't.

now you exaggerate. for 99.99% of the community members here, the staff members make their experience more enjoyable. its unfortunate you belong in the other 0.01%. whats even more unfortunate is that you seem be completely unaware that you belong to this teeeny minority... whose members i am able to count with one hand.


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Disagreement doesn't automatically mean disrespect. But when the mods consistently ignore members, abuse their powers and refuse to be held responsible for their mistakes, how can people respect them?

might you want to point me to anything specific aside from the stuff you start to intentionally get under the staff members skin and then come crying to me when the staff punish you for them? wow, i think thats one big run on sentence.


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The problem is some people did nothing wrong and they're being punished. And your suggestion to work harder and earn a position on staff is laughable. A lot of people complaining were ALREADY on staff before quitting, then came back to find the site with a new staff that's doing an awful job. In fact, some members have tried applying for staff- and had their application deleted! The staff of yesteryear and the staff of today are two different fish.
Again, the problem is the staff acting when no rules have been broken, and not punishing themselves when they break rules.

right. i take that you are referring to sadolakced acid's post. i would have deleted that post too. its completely unacceptable to write a one liner that's crude and obnoxious, when there are people who actually take the staff hiring very seriously. its unbelievable that that person was offended when it was deleted, and its laughable that you point to this as an example to your cause.



QUOTE(radhikaeatsraman @ Jul 28 2007, 01:40 PM) *
Jusun, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I think you're an irresponsible jerk. You're putting all the work on the moderators, some of who are extremely ineffective. And you're trying to justify their poorly-made decisions by telling us to "give them a break."

THIS IS YOUR SITE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS ON THIS SITE.

kthx.

incredible. what did i ever do to you? im only one person, theres only so many things i can do. it only makes sense to delegate responsibilities so that i can concentrate on pusing out new features like the arcades thats coming out by the end of this week or early next. and even if i werent doing all that, its rediculous to expect me to be here 24 hour a day / 7 day a week / 52 weeks a year so that i can deal with "problems" just because its my site.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:47 PM
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@Tripvertgo: Old regime? Well it's still possible obviously because we still have you. Since I know that you know and are capable of being on admin / headstaff... *cough* jusun promote Trish!
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(radhikaeatsraman @ Jul 28 2007, 10:40 AM) *
Jusun, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I think you're an irresponsible jerk. You're putting all the work on the moderators, some of who are extremely ineffective. And you're trying to justify their poorly-made decisions by telling us to "give them a break."

THIS IS YOUR SITE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS ON THIS SITE.

kthx.


kthx?

okay and thanks for what?
You're a f**king a-hole. Now, thank you.

Be thankful to Jusun for adding enjoyable features to cB. Jusun isn't a lifeless idiot who spends too much time on cB like you, freaking teenager.

Who is extremely ineffective?

Who makes "poorly-made" decision? Who are you referring to?

Explain it.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:53 PM
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Holy crap, close this thread, now!

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ah you caught me, i was exaggerating. to be honest with you, there's only two people that complained to me personally either by pm or im. of these two, one keeps coming to me again and again complaining how the staff handles situations that said person is guilty of perpetrating. funny thing is, had said person not done anything to intentionally get under the staff's skin, there wouldn't have been any problems in the first place. even more, said person is unable to see this rather simple fact. does this person sound familiar to you by any chance? rolleyes.gif


The rolleyes.gif sealed the deal, baby. wub.gif

Like I said, keep the cB community drama as cB community drama. Fun for the community, not fun for the technical programmer. Jusun has things to develop. (Like that NIGHT SKIN I asked for for the past 3 years, heh)
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:56 PM
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^ ah yes! the night skin will be coming soon after the arcades! =D
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 03:57 PM
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:05 PM
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I'd like to give Jusun a big hand to remind him that he's still appreciated around here. :)
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:06 PM
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Haha. He deserves it.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jul 28 2007, 05:05 PM) *
I'd like to give Jusun a big hand to remind him that he's still appreciated around here. :)

I'm leaving the image tags in because I second everybit of that post!
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:14 PM
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OK, I admit, the whole "irresponsible jerk" deal was a bit out of hand; I'm sorry for it, Jusun.

However, when people are creating threads and continually criticizing the moderators, I think you should listen. Only .01% doesn't like the mods? Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of 50%. I like the moderators as PEOPLE, they're very nice. However, as moderators, they simply aren't doing a good job. That is exactly why people like me applied for staff, because I believe I can do a better job than the current staff. I don't have anything against them personally, except for the fact that I don't think they are running the community as smoothly as they should.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:16 PM
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You said the exact same thing the first time you wanted to be hired. mellow.gif What exactly did you do? You complain a lot but provide no specific examples, or even any specific people. You have all the problems in the world, but no solutions. You're not helping at all, and you want to be hired?
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:17 PM
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Trust me, it's not 50%. It's not 40, 30, 20, or 10%. You may very well be 0.01-1%.

It's more...50% really don't care.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(radhikaeatsraman @ Jul 28 2007, 05:14 PM) *
OK, I admit, the whole "irresponsible jerk" deal was a bit out of hand; I'm sorry for it, Jusun.

However, when people are creating threads and continually criticizing the moderators, I think you should listen. Only .01% doesn't like the mods? Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of 50%. I like the moderators as PEOPLE, they're very nice. However, as moderators, they simply aren't doing a good job. That is exactly why people like me applied for staff, because I believe I can do a better job than the current staff. I don't have anything against them personally, except for the fact that I don't think they are running the community as smoothly as they should.

The people who do make those threads and criticize are the same people over and over. It isn't half of the member base.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(radhikaeatsraman @ Jul 28 2007, 05:14 PM) *
OK, I admit, the whole "irresponsible jerk" deal was a bit out of hand; I'm sorry for it, Jusun.

However, when people are creating threads and continually criticizing the moderators, I think you should listen. Only .01% doesn't like the mods? Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of 50%. I like the moderators as PEOPLE, they're very nice. However, as moderators, they simply aren't doing a good job. That is exactly why people like me applied for staff, because I believe I can do a better job than the current staff. I don't have anything against them personally, except for the fact that I don't think they are running the community as smoothly as they should.

Well Radhika I can understand where you're coming from for the most part, but I like the fact that they are nice as opposed doing everything on a job based fashion. If anything some of the mods , specifically Toya, don't get the appreciation they deserve. Probably the most helpful mod on CB.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:33 PM
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Solutions shouldn't come from one person. If he/she brings up a problem worth noting, then everyone should try to solve it together, seeing how we're a community and all... The person bringing up the problem may be crying out for help from everyone because he/she can't deal with it alone.

No man is an island, and all.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Jul 28 2007, 02:17 PM) *
Trust me, it's not 50%. It's not 40, 30, 20, or 10%. You maybe very well be 0.01-1%.

It's more...50% really don't care.
Exactly. That's the beauty of it; it feels so big and so dramatic when things come up in the Feedback forum - but really, if you look at the bigger picture (which is hard to sometimes, with the constant bickering), most of the ommunity is either oblivious or conciously apathetic about the situation. Which I think speaks volumes about the situation - it's a small, small problem that a few people take as a bigger deal than it really is.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 07:18 PM
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when you look at the big picture, cB is going down. It's not the drama, or the collapse of the community. It's a general apathy towards blogs that exists now a days.

I don't know about middle school, but in high school a myspace page was something to be laughed about. xanga- almost worse, and well who ever cared abotu live journal?

cB can't continue forever as a site focused on providing blog layouts and codes. In order to survive cB needs to diversify and expand.
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 07:26 PM
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I will agree with the global degradation of teenage blogging.

But it is not as steep a decline as we believe it to be. We are part of the maturing generation, and we can't really relate to the young, super tech-savvy youth. For all we know, the younger generation is still all hots for the glitter and Comic Sans MS.

cB is for blogs. In the end game, cB is Jusun honing and practicing his skills (and if it helps others, sure). When blogs are no longer hot, and Jusun deems it right, he'll close it down. It's the end; it happens.

But he's not going to close down the blog customization side of cB if the community side collapses. Although he'd like both sides to prosper, the argument that cB is turning to shit because of community is, as Jusun loves to say, pretty moot. ;)
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 07:37 PM
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Wow are you kidding? Do you know how many people from my own school I've seen with Createblog layouts, and completely without me telling them about it?
 
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post Jul 28 2007, 07:50 PM
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haha. your school is popular with cB !

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post Jul 28 2007, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(micron @ Jul 28 2007, 04:39 PM) *
ah you caught me, i was exaggerating. to be honest with you, there's only two people that complained to me personally either by pm or im. of these two, one keeps coming to me again and again complaining how the staff handles situations that said person is guilty of perpetrating. funny thing is, had said person not done anything to intentionally get under the staff's skin, there wouldn't have been any problems in the first place. even more, said person is unable to see this rather simple fact. does this person sound familiar to you by any chance? rolleyes.gif


You seem to forget that I'm not representing just myself when I complain.

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now you exaggerate. for 99.99% of the community members here, the staff members make their experience more enjoyable. its unfortunate you belong in the other 0.01%. whats even more unfortunate is that you seem be completely unaware that you belong to this teeeny minority... whose members i am able to count with one hand.


lol exaggerations. There are anywhere between 30-70 registered members on the board at a given time. 30 is a little low, but 70 is rather high since most people who sign up don't stay. I'll be generous and lets say on average, there are 50 regular members on the board. Of these members, I will tell you that at least 10% have strong feelings against the staff. If I dig in my PMs and IMs, that number could reach up to 25% or maybe even 40%.

Here's a problem: ask the people of North Korea how well they appreciate Kim Jong Il, and when the approval rating is 100%, tell me if you believe it's true. People have messaged me stating agreement with what I'm doing (and what others are doing), but said they aren't acting because they're afraid of getting the same persecution I've been getting from the mods.

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might you want to point me to anything specific aside from the stuff you start to intentionally get under the staff members skin and then come crying to me when the staff punish you for them? wow, i think thats one big run on sentence.


I would but the last time I mentioned staff abuse that was completely unrelated to me, you wouldn't even consider the possibility that the mod did anything wrong.

And why must you continue saying that I'm doing things intentionally? I post how I want to post; if the mods have a problem with it and I don't think they should, then I bring it up.

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right. i take that you are referring to sadolakced acid's post. i would have deleted that post too. its completely unacceptable to write a one liner that's crude and obnoxious, when there are people who actually take the staff hiring very seriously. its unbelievable that that person was offended when it was deleted, and its laughable that you point to this as an example to your cause.

Regardless, it change the fact that your suggestion demonstrated complete ignorance of the issue. Whether that ignorance is feigned or genuine, only you know.

As for the people criticizing micron's absence, I have to disagree. The guy is busy doing the important stuff that makes this place tick. However, what I do object to is how the guy claims in some cases that it's not his responsibility to take care of one thing, but then in other things he will take a position on it and the mods will use that.
 
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10% of 50 is 5...so...that's not refuting anything he said; he said you could count the people on one hand, right? Yeah; five.

Not trying to be mean or anything, just saying...
 
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post Jul 29 2007, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 28 2007, 11:22 PM) *
10% of 50 is 5...so...that's not refuting anything he said; he said you could count the people on one hand, right? Yeah; five.

Not trying to be mean or anything, just saying...


You missed the point. 10% is not a negligible number when the total population is as small as it is here, though that 10% is being very generous by only counting those who have been flat out vocal about the poor modding.

Just saying.
 

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