@ Mona Lisa, .fire, and cB in general. ;) Options

[*mzkandi*]

Normally I would say that we have no control over what happens outside of cB, but we do know for a fact that a large group of members from our forums has been trolling BR for quite some time now. While we may or may not be doing anything to encourage this behavior, we certainly aren't doing anything to discourage it.

Maybe you mean the generally "we" or a specfic group of members on this forum but I wasn't aware of a group of people doing this. And I think it's safe to assume that there a bunch of other people who may not be aware. Could you please PM me more info about this group of people.

My thing is this, and it may have already been stated, but there so many posts in this thread that don't deal with the matter at hand that I don't know. They key here is communication. Please don't automatically expect us to know who is spamming on your forum at any particular time even if they are regular members of this forum. Maybe I'm out of the loop or don't go in chat much but I haven't heard anything about a group spammers going on at BR from any mod or member. With that said and with the lines of communication open, I can see about punishing members that go to BR with the sole purpose of doing the forum harm but don't expect us to know who these people are all the time. If you have an issue with a member of our forum on your site please to let us know so we can do something about it and vice versa. And if we happened to find out about this sort of activity through our board then it our staff's responsibility to handle the matter in a timely fashion. From there if that member is indeed found quilty of the offense then they would be issued the same punishment as any other spammer.

I agree that the hostility between the two sites has gone on far enough and I'm ready to do anything in my power to mediate the problem.

[Vendetta_br]

I believe if we wish to alleviate problems occuring between us, the site administrators should remain in constant contact. I'm willing to work with cB in any matter that is deemed necessary. I think this matter is just the first step.

If you need my contact information, go ahead and PM me here and I'll respond. If we can alleviate the spamming problem, perhaps we can work towards other, positive ends. As mzkandi said...the hostility has gone on long enough.

[*krnxswat*]

This is so childish.

[EddieV]

^ Tell me about it, this isn't Sony vs. Microsoft....

[*krnxswat*]

Tell you about what?

[jumpropeforheart]

Now, I'll give one hundred dollars to ANYONE who can find ANY such feelings on BR. We don't like you, and we're intelligent enough to know we don't have to point it out.

mmhmm

I don't go to cB for the sole purpose of the members being rude and narcissistic

i would now like my money and i'm being serious.

[Vendetta_br]

The last three posts are useless, but:

jumpropeforheart: I think you misconstrued what she said, since she's been a fairly active member of cB for close to a year.

krnxswat...No Fear...

Do I need to link the posts where your mods and admins told you to stay on topic, or can you find them yourself? (BTW, comparing Microsoft to Sony is ridiculous, we all know Sony is going the way of Sega. <3 )

We're having good discussion here, I'd like it to continue, I am learning a lot and am valuing what constructive things and ideas people are sharing here. Something good will work out, I know it!

[Simba]

We're having good discussion here, I'd like it to continue, I am learning a lot and am valuing what constructive things and ideas people are sharing here. Something good will work out, I know it!

So, the message I'm getting is that you want cB and BR to cooperate with each other to improve one another, but, at the same time, remain individuals.

There's been a lot of ideas of cooperation between the two sites, though, and I'm probably thinking way, way ahead of myself, I've always wondered what would have happened if cB and BR actually merged together, being that we have somewhat common interests, common services, etc, and if we'd be cooperating so much, why not break the barrier.

Though, I understand that it would be incredibly difficult to try doing that, if not impossible without considering the more significant aspects of the two websites (the owners, the money that's made, servers, etc.), having to deal with all the members, moving things, all that jazz.

It's an extreme idea, though it's been floating around in my head for a while.
I'll let it float around here too, even though I'm probably not the only one who's had similar ideas.

[jumpropeforheart]

jumpropeforheart: I think you misconstrued what she said, since she's been a fairly active member of cB for close to a year.

in no way is it misconstrued. perhaps you should try reading it yourself because it is from a topic in which criss has mentioned about how she liked the idea of our lounge being "unmoderated". that then led her to the conclusion of which was quoted.

anyway, i know of criss and how active she's been on cB. i've talked to her on br about many random things and found out it was her behind Mistress Bags back when she made the username.

in short, i dont want to be involved in this, but i thought that 100 dollars wouldn't hurt. maybe you shouldn't speak so big if you can't deliver. truthfully, i read the first post and left after that because i think this is stupid, but couldn't pass up free money.

[sadolakced acid]

blogring.

i don't know who you are or where you come from, but i don't like you.

you're quite a stickler for rules. an authority figure.

WELL BULLY FOR YOU.

anyways, i never even knew about BR's existance till this 'anti-hostility mandate' was posted.

seriously. are CB admins going to BR posting 'anti-hostility mandates' there as well?

boo-hoo. you're an admin of an online forum, and someone's spamming you. So you tighten down the rules and shove that ---- further up. You know who else did that? the COMMIES.

you're lucky we don't go spread democracy to you.

sometimes you've got to be man enough to let someone take a crack at your balls.

Sure, come over here and beg for a truce. You're not going to get one, you commie. This is CB. We are totally free to support our administrators here.

So you know what, you can go down, just like the stupid part of xanga you're named for.

blogring.

and that's the word.

(this post is a side effect of watching the colbert report. another post can be found tommorrow after 12, 11 central.)

[Vendetta_br]

^^ If you have nothing to say that makes any logical sense, then please, spare me. I have neither the time nor the inclination to deal with idiots. But good attempt at sounding like an internet badass, I bet you're feeling like a real man now. I even venture a guess that you went back and read your post after you wrote it, you know, because you're that clever.

Quit wasting my time. If you think you're little rant affects me in the slightest or "pwns" me in any way, get a clue. You mean nothing to me.

Now, I'll give one hundred dollars to ANYONE who can find ANY such feelings on BR. We don't like you, and we're intelligent enough to know we don't have to point it out.

jumpropeofheart, again, learn to read and interpret damn posts, quote jockey.

Las I checked, this wasn't BR, was it.


Arjuna, it's a nice idea, but you're right, we're two different sites with two different owners, server resources, staff, and incomes and financial situations. It'd be endlessly complex. Not that I'd not be willing to discuss it at the least, but it'd be EXTREMELY complex to pull off.

Does anyone have anything else, or can I go and try and reach administrators privately after I consult my staff about our possible resolution?

[sadolakced acid]

well, someone lacks a sense of humor, or an idea of who stephen colbert, the greatest man on earth is.

sheesh.

[Spirited Away]

well, someone lacks a sense of humor, or an idea of who stephen colbert, the greatest man on earth is.
sheesh.

Justin, he/she doesn't have time to spare his/her sense of humor on you. Cease wasting time or you shall be destroyed/banned as is the trend that is being promoted. Anyone who wastes admins' time shall be banned... or punished so very completely.

[sadolakced acid]

well who made that rule?

it seems totalitarian, almost hitleresque.

i'm not too sure, but i think democracy needs defending.

[Vendetta_br]

//edit Nevermind, I'm not getting drug into a stupid argument.

[Spirited Away]

Justin... And I agree, but since there is a perceived rise in "hostility" (a.k.a. increased workload for the BR admin), he/she wants CB to assist in mitigating the bad blood. That amounts to no time wasting because work at BR is difficult enough without CBers wrecking havoc and raping the delicate minds of BR members, my friend.

(I do believe he/she called you an idiot, albeit with some class).

If this partnership is establish and cross-forum spammers are banned, I do suggest that CB change its "community driven" logo to something less tasteful, or else it will run the risk of advertising falsely. After all, no community is complete without the aforementioned time-wasters and useless spammers.

[Simba]

Does anyone have anything else, or can I go and try and reach administrators privately after I consult my staff about our possible resolution?

Well, how far do you want to go with the whole partnership thing?

I was thinking, maybe we could have some place (I had a forum in mind) where admins and moderators coming from both cB and BR could hold discussions. There, the opinions on issues, ideas, all that sort, could be gathered from both sides. And I'm sure that would help keep each other in the know about the two sites.

I suppose you could get the some of the same basic information from just admins, but I thought it'd be nice to have the thoughts of more people.

I'm actually interested right now in what BR has been saying about this whole thing.

[*mzkandi*]

Well, how far do you want to go with the whole partnership thing?

I was thinking, maybe we could have some place (I had a forum in mind) where admins and moderators coming from both cB and BR could hold discussions. There, the opinions on issues, ideas, all that sort, could be gathered from both sides. And I'm sure that would help keep each other in the know about the two sites.

I suppose you could get the some of the same basic information from just admins, but I thought it'd be nice to have the thoughts of more people.

I'm actually interested right now in what BR has been saying about this whole thing.

The only thing about that idea is it would have to through micron and have his approval. I'm not comfortable doing something like that without his knowledge and permission. So, as of right now that idea would be a no-go.

I don't think we should think too far ahead of ourselves and deal with the issue of spamming. If there are any other issues outside of this that a BR admin would like to discuss then they are free to PM me or Mona.

[smoke]

First of all, I don't like seeing BR, cB, and "combining" in the same sentence. That would be chaos. I'm cool with cooperation, but I enjoy the two being totally separate.

^^ If you have nothing to say that makes any logical sense, then please, spare me. I have neither the time nor the inclination to deal with idiots. But good attempt at sounding like an internet badass, I bet you're feeling like a real man now. I even venture a guess that you went back and read your post after you wrote it, you know, because you're that clever.

Quit wasting my time. If you think you're little rant affects me in the slightest or "pwns" me in any way, get a clue. You mean nothing to me.
jumpropeofheart, again, learn to read and interpret damn posts, quote jockey.

Las I checked, this wasn't BR, was it.
Arjuna, it's a nice idea, but you're right, we're two different sites with two different owners, server resources, staff, and incomes and financial situations. It'd be endlessly complex. Not that I'd not be willing to discuss it at the least, but it'd be EXTREMELY complex to pull off.

Does anyone have anything else, or can I go and try and reach administrators privately after I consult my staff about our possible resolution?

We're already working on our own solution, so, no, thanks.

Also, stop calling our members names. You've been doing it thought this entire thread. It makes you look like a child. How old are you anyway? Even if they are acting childish, just because you don't agree with their opinion doesn't mean you have a right to name call. You, of all people, are suppose to be professional here.

Oh, and BTW: "

Well, I'd be kind of foolish not to watch my biggest competition, wouldn't I? And I've actually been a cB member for more than a year, contrary to this particular account I'm using. One only has to quietly observe the process you use to select your mods to really see it for what it is.

Well, not to be rude, but that was about as half assed of an answer you can get. Don't beat around the bush here. Mona asked what "popularity contests" have you seen during hiring sessions here. Either answer it or don't bother trying to avoid it. I really don't see where you got this anyway. Our hiring sessions are very thorough. I was hired fairly new. I had left cB for a year for personal reasons, only being a member a little before that year brake, and I got hired. I wasn't popular in the least bit, but I proved I could do the job. And bad mods? What bad mods? Go ahead, name some and actually give valid reasons. If your going to make accusations, back them up. It makes you look false for not doing so.

There was a never an abuse of power on BR, I would know, because I control all the powers that be on BR. In fact, please, illustrate where this has occured. I'm dying to know.

And yet you fail to illustrate any of your accusations. Oh, and "occured" is spelled occurred."

I'm still waiting for a reply.

[*krnxswat*]

Nah, Michael suggested to Jusun waaaayyyy before, and, of course, we declined. Just because cB is superior and blogring is inferior, as everyone knows it.

[Smoogrish]

^ I don't like the idea of cB and BR even working together, and even if we did manage to come to some sort of truce and agree to "work together", I doubt everyone can overcome their differences and manage to truly be partners.

And what is there to discuss between the two forums, anyways?

[Vendetta_br]

^ I don't like the idea of cB and BR even working together, and even if we did manage to come to some sort of truce and agree to "work together", I doubt everyone can overcome their differences and manage to truly be partners.

And what is there to discuss between the two forums, anyways?

I can see that now.

I withdraw from the table at this time, and henceforth. I can see that working together on anything is an impossibility. And that's fine. I draw the line in the sand.

I had hoped, in the spirit of goodwill and cooperation, we could work together. But many of you, even among staff, have shown an objective refusal to even cooperate on the most basic of matters, those that might be beneficial to us both.

But never accuse me of being arrogant, when many of you illustrate your own pretty clearly. Many of you can't get over our petty differences to get anything done. But I'm done with cB. I'll handle it, forget it. I'll see you all from the other side of the fence.

[*mona lisa*]

I don't understand why you're jumping to conclusions.

I agree with Kiera in that if cB and BR were truly to merge together, it would have to be at the approval of Ju-Sun. However, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be civil to each other. Combining at this stage (where both sites have come so far) seems to be a near impossibility but that doesn't mean we cannot cooperate.

And I don't know where you're coming from when you say "many of you, even among staff, have shown an objective refusal to even cooperate on the most basic of matters, those that might be beneficial to us both." To try to stop those from spamming BR, something was proposed. You didn't respond to it. If you overlooked at the most important parts of this thread, I will not point it out, and it was proposed/repeated more than once.

[jumpropeforheart]

jumpropeofheart, again, learn to read and interpret damn posts, quote jockey.

Las I checked, this wasn't BR, was it.

last time i checked, the quote was from blogring, wasn't it.
http://blogring.net/forum/1641056-post10.html

pay up, sucka.

[Spirited Away]

While a solution was being drafted, he/she was too busy lamenting the "idiocy" of CBers, and not take into consideration that such "pettiness" could have been avoided had this whole charade been discussed in private.

Since he/she runs a business, he/she should acquire some skills in negotiation (and exert them in private with people in power, of course).