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BamBamBoogie
post Apr 10 2009, 07:53 PM
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Should there be a tuition for college? Some say that it discriminates against those who lack opportunities and financial stability. While others say it prepares you for a society where nothing is free. What do you say?
 
 
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brooklyneast05
post May 16 2009, 12:22 PM
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idk it's not that hard to understand. you said degrees are overrated because people still make mistakes despite having them. she said basically that that's irrelevant because degrees never equaled no mistakes to begin with.


either way, i don't see how a degree would be overrated. it makes perfect sense to me why someone would want them and why people hiring would prefer them. 9 times out of 10 i would probably never hire someone just on their good word when i had someone else showing documentation of their study and experience.
 
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post May 16 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 16 2009, 01:22 PM) *
idk it's not that hard to understand. you said degrees are overrated because people still make mistakes despite having them. she said basically that that's irrelevant because degrees never equaled no mistakes to begin with.
either way, i don't see how a degree would be overrated. it makes perfect sense to me why someone would want them and why people hiring would prefer them. 9 times out of 10 i would probably never hire someone just on their good word when i had someone else showing documentation of their study and experience.


i understand, but still, too much value is put on these diplomas and qualifications, and not enough on the people themselves.
i've had a stroke due to the idotic decision of my surgeon, who is beyond "qualified". if he actually had any brains, that would have been avoided, and my wellbeing wouldn't have been put at stake.
 
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post May 16 2009, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 12:34 PM) *
i understand, but still, too much value is put on these diplomas and qualifications, and not enough on the people themselves.
i've had a stroke due to the idotic decision of my surgeon, who is beyond "qualified". if he actually had any brains, that would have been avoided, and my wellbeing wouldn't have been put at stake.

So how would you go about determining if the person was qualified? What would prove qualifications better than degrees? Experience? How are you going to get hired based on experience if you have no experience? That's where degrees come into play. Also, just having a degree doesn't mean that you were able to learn what you needed to be adequate at your job. It shows that you committed two/four/six/seven/eight years of your life to higher learning and that you can in fact commit to something for more than say, a few months. That's why people with degrees that don't pertain to the job they're applying for can get hired for that job. The degree you have won't tell you how to do that job better no matter how much you learn. Congrats you have a degree in economics, but every company has their own way of doing things, their way of running things. You can be trained.
 

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BamBamBoogie   College Opportunity   Apr 10 2009, 07:53 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   skooll 4 fuu   Apr 10 2009, 07:58 PM
hypnotique   I feel you should be accepted into college based o...   Apr 10 2009, 09:02 PM
freeridefight   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Apr 10 2009, 10:02 PM)...   Apr 10 2009, 09:29 PM
angelle   If you get into Standford and your family income i...   Apr 12 2009, 11:41 AM
-SoDifferent   It sucks for people if they don't have the mon...   Apr 12 2009, 12:04 PM
illmortal   Education should definitely be free. If they don...   Apr 12 2009, 12:29 PM
liquidice   all education should be free (or as close to as po...   Apr 12 2009, 03:22 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   alll yall bunchaa DOOCH..   Apr 12 2009, 05:19 PM
freeridefight   QUOTE(PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH @ Apr 12 2009, 0...   Apr 13 2009, 04:58 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   QUOTE(freeridefight @ Apr 13 2009, 05:58 ...   Apr 13 2009, 08:20 PM
Uronacid   It cost me 30,000 for college, and it was an inves...   Apr 13 2009, 05:34 PM
brooklyneast05   if i went for anything other than art, i'd be ...   Apr 13 2009, 05:52 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 13 2009, 06:34 PM) I...   Apr 13 2009, 05:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 13 2009, 06:34 PM) I...   Apr 15 2009, 10:00 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 15 2009, 11:00 PM) Why...   Apr 16 2009, 10:01 AM
BamBamBoogie   Just a thought: Do you all think that if college w...   Apr 13 2009, 10:28 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Apr 13 2009, 11:28 P...   Apr 13 2009, 10:50 PM
brooklyneast05   well, i duno. just a thought but maybe there could...   Apr 13 2009, 10:54 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:54...   Apr 15 2009, 07:42 PM
kryogenix   ^deterrence from failure!   Apr 13 2009, 11:04 PM
Superase   College should be free! I'm right now at ...   Apr 23 2009, 07:58 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Superase @ Apr 23 2009, 08:58 AM) I...   Apr 23 2009, 12:11 PM
heartquasm   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 23 2009, 06:27 PM) n...   May 1 2009, 07:57 PM
kryogenjx   All education needs to be privatized. Public educa...   Apr 23 2009, 02:59 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM) ...   Apr 23 2009, 03:03 PM
leyvacu   College being free would help a lot of people out....   Apr 23 2009, 03:25 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(leyvacu @ Apr 23 2009, 04:25 PM) Co...   Apr 23 2009, 04:28 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(leyvacu @ Apr 23 2009, 04:25 PM) Co...   Apr 23 2009, 09:43 PM
leyvacu   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Apr 23 2009, 09:43 PM) ...   May 7 2009, 11:44 AM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(leyvacu @ May 7 2009, 12:44 PM) I b...   May 13 2009, 08:09 PM
heartquasm   ^ ... isn't that just the same idea as a schol...   Apr 23 2009, 05:18 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(heartquasm @ Apr 23 2009, 06:18 PM)...   Apr 23 2009, 05:27 PM
illriginal   Free education is the way to go   May 1 2009, 08:02 PM
karmakiller   ^ Free education would be nice, but I don't th...   May 1 2009, 08:49 PM
illriginal   lol Yes it's free to the student but in realit...   May 1 2009, 09:16 PM
DressYourEyelids   i'm just going to assume that all of you posti...   May 8 2009, 08:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 8 2009, 09:4...   May 13 2009, 06:16 PM
leyvacu   I would have to say on average about an arm and a ...   May 9 2009, 12:33 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(leyvacu @ May 9 2009, 01:33 PM) I w...   May 13 2009, 05:19 PM
DressYourEyelids   holy shit. are you f*cking serious? the average tu...   May 14 2009, 07:22 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 14 2009, 08...   May 15 2009, 03:18 PM
kryogenix   My schooling is somewhere around $22,000/year...   May 13 2009, 06:40 PM
kaijubot   my university is private and costs close to 50k/ye...   May 15 2009, 10:10 PM
hypnotique   I miss Ireland Idk its a struggle for me cause ...   May 15 2009, 10:30 PM
DressYourEyelids   QUOTE(hypnotique @ May 15 2009, 11:30 PM)...   May 16 2009, 07:22 AM
kaijubot   ^ You're a complete idiot if you think that ha...   May 16 2009, 11:36 AM
DressYourEyelids   QUOTE(kaijubot @ May 16 2009, 12:36 PM) ^...   May 16 2009, 11:55 AM
kaijubot   way to not read the rest of the post. i'm say...   May 16 2009, 11:58 AM
DressYourEyelids   QUOTE(kaijubot @ May 16 2009, 12:58 PM) w...   May 16 2009, 12:06 PM
brooklyneast05   idk it's not that hard to understand. you said...   May 16 2009, 12:22 PM
DressYourEyelids   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 16 2009, 01:22...   May 16 2009, 12:34 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 12...   May 16 2009, 01:10 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 12...   May 16 2009, 01:15 PM
kaijubot   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 01...   May 16 2009, 01:20 PM
DressYourEyelids   there is a big difference between a mistake and ma...   May 16 2009, 01:58 PM
kaijubot   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 02...   May 16 2009, 06:22 PM
ley   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 16 2009, 01...   May 27 2009, 02:54 PM
synkiro   ^ one of my professors once said, "if you gra...   May 17 2009, 04:53 AM


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