The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month. Options

[sadolakced acid]

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Okay, so I am not trying to be racist or anything, but who here agrees with me that the black people are getting way more recognition than the whites?

Now we have black history month, black activists month, and negro colleges/college funds? This is just not fair.

Everyone believes that if we have a white history month then we will be racist? We aren't. Blacks are getting everything nowadays and if the white people try to put say into anything, it gets shoved back in our face as a racist comment.

I love black history and everything, but I have pride in being white and we get no recognition whatsoever? Does anyone agree with me..

And please don't say I am being racist. I live in the South for God's sake.

here's a link to the original thread:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58363

things to keep in mind whilest you debate:

• there is an asain history month. and a month for whatever else you can think of, except penguins of course. penguins are discriminated against for sure.
• every month is not white history month. check out the previous thread if you want to argue- pretend you posted, and read the multitudes of responses to whenever that was posted- all 14 times.
• read the thread before posting, please. if you can't, at least read the last few pages to get a general sense of what's being argued and what's been brought up.

have a nice day, and happy debating.

[sillakilla220]

i'll agree with some of wat was said before me. blacks are the highest spenders out of any race and that DOES have something to do with our social standing. but please understand this, when slavery ended there was so much done by whites to keep them poverty-stricken. in fact it was nearly another century b4 segregation laws were overturned. so to say that every race has the same opportunity to succeed is bullshit.


its hard debating any race related issues w/ those of other races tho b/c each person sees it from a different perspective. white ppl commonly think that racial issues have gone away in this country and that is so false that its a dangerous way of thinking. but its like i said before... as wrong as affirmative action or any other pro-black organizations may seem, its been shown in the past that without these things there is blatant racism shown. so technically, without white people's racism there would be no need for these things. and affirmative action is not geared directly toward blacks its toward all minorities.


and there are organizations for education that help fund all kinds of races. if u think there are only pro-black foundations then u are crazy and need to wake the f**k up. and who gives a f**k if theres a black channel?? its not called We-Hate-Whitey-Channel its just a channel to funnel black culture b/c its not seen much on other channels. there are latino channels n shit so wats the difference? there is no need for a white channel b/c much of the tv u see has majority white casts and this is not my own opinion its FACT. and if there was a white channel wat would be on it? b/c there isnt really a clear cut culture for white ppl so i dont even kno wat kinda shit would be on there?

[troublemaker36]

i'll agree with some of wat was said before me. blacks are the highest spenders out of any race and that DOES have something to do with our social standing. but please understand this, when slavery ended there was so much done by whites to keep them poverty-stricken. in fact it was nearly another century b4 segregation laws were overturned. so to say that every race has the same opportunity to succeed is bullshit.
its hard debating any race related issues w/ those of other races tho b/c each person sees it from a different perspective. white ppl commonly think that racial issues have gone away in this country and that is so false that its a dangerous way of thinking. but its like i said before... as wrong as affirmative action or any other pro-black organizations may seem, its been shown in the past that without these things there is blatant racism shown. so technically, without white people's racism there would be no need for these things. and affirmative action is not geared directly toward blacks its toward all minorities.


and there are organizations for education that help fund all kinds of races. if u think there are only pro-black foundations then u are crazy and need to wake the f**k up. and who gives a f**k if theres a black channel?? its not called We-Hate-Whitey-Channel its just a channel to funnel black culture b/c its not seen much on other channels. there are latino channels n shit so wats the difference? there is no need for a white channel b/c much of the tv u see has majority white casts and this is not my own opinion its FACT. and if there was a white channel wat would be on it? b/c there isnt really a clear cut culture for white ppl so i dont even kno wat kinda shit would be on there?

since when do white people thing that racism has gone away? we dont, we just dont use it as an excuse for everything.

and you say its geared towards all "minorites." in your opinion im assuming thats everything excluding white people?
let me let you in on a little secret. thats called racism sweety. so guess what..its YOU too. so do yourself a favor and get off the pitty pot. yes its been well over established that slaver was a horrible thing, and sure your still suffering for it, but you act like the people responsible for it are still alive. why are white people still paying for it? what would you like us to do?? and if you havent figured it out yet, im white. my ancestors aren't even from this country, yet somehow i still fall under the racist category because of the color of my skin.
so once again, let me tell you what thats called. Racism


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sorry didnt mean to double post!

[Stuckie]

since when do white people thing that racism has gone away? we dont, we just dont use it as an excuse for everything.

and you say its geared towards all "minorites." in your opinion im assuming thats everything excluding white people?
let me let you in on a little secret. thats called racism sweety. so guess what..its YOU too. so do yourself a favor and get off the pitty pot. yes its been well over established that slaver was a horrible thing, and sure your still suffering for it, but you act like the people responsible for it are still alive. why are white people still paying for it? what would you like us to do?? and if you havent figured it out yet, im white. my ancestors aren't even from this country, yet somehow i still fall under the racist category because of the color of my skin.
so once again, let me tell you what thats called. Racism

Actually, racism is the belief that a race is superior to another, or that a race is inferior to another. Him saying affirmative action is geared towards all minorities isnt racist. Misinformed, but not racist.

Affirmative action, the set of public policies and initiatives designed to help eliminate past and present discrimination based on race, color, religion, disability status, sex, or national origin

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

And you're right. The people who were responsible for the pain and suffering of slavery are no longer alive, but the idea still very much is. It isn't as blatant as it was like 50 years ago, but it is still there.

Need an example? I was watching one of those murder cases on court tv. They suspected a black man for the rape and murder of a 9 year old girl. He was later convicted and sentenced to death. They found new evidence in the case which led them to a middle age white male. He was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. The black man was realeased, but why was he put on death row and give the white male life? Was the crime any less heinous? They were about to kill this black man for that crime, but when its the white man they put him behind bars the rest of his life.

Need another one? This one happened to me recently. My cousin and I are walking to the bus stop to go to the mall. A police car pulls over and two white officers stop me and my cousin to question us about an armed robbery 5 minutes from where we were. I took criminal justice courses in high school, so Im no idiot when it comes to police protocol. I asked them what reasonble suspicion did they have to stop us. They said we fit the complexion of the criminals. For those who didnt catch that, they said "we fit the complexion of the criminals". So were we not supposed to be black in front of the police officers? Or are we not supposed to be black in public?

Like I said before, the idea of racism is still strong in this country. Its everywhere. Being white and living in America doesnt automatically make you a racist, but you still have subtle racist beliefs. Either through stereotypes black people and other minorities or through their ignorance of the racism in this country.