The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month. Options

[sadolakced acid]

Original post:

Okay, so I am not trying to be racist or anything, but who here agrees with me that the black people are getting way more recognition than the whites?

Now we have black history month, black activists month, and negro colleges/college funds? This is just not fair.

Everyone believes that if we have a white history month then we will be racist? We aren't. Blacks are getting everything nowadays and if the white people try to put say into anything, it gets shoved back in our face as a racist comment.

I love black history and everything, but I have pride in being white and we get no recognition whatsoever? Does anyone agree with me..

And please don't say I am being racist. I live in the South for God's sake.

here's a link to the original thread:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58363

things to keep in mind whilest you debate:

• there is an asain history month. and a month for whatever else you can think of, except penguins of course. penguins are discriminated against for sure.
• every month is not white history month. check out the previous thread if you want to argue- pretend you posted, and read the multitudes of responses to whenever that was posted- all 14 times.
• read the thread before posting, please. if you can't, at least read the last few pages to get a general sense of what's being argued and what's been brought up.

have a nice day, and happy debating.

[sillakilla220]

I'm sorry I did not realize this was English class. If I post like this will it make my points more significant because I appear smarter?


By the way I love all the stats you guys bring up. I could go stat for stat all day and mine will be way more convincing. It really doesn't prove anything though. Here's one for ya... That stat about 473 white people being lynched over a half century was something I did not know. Yet, 300 blacks were killed in one day. Jeez what a discrepancy. How many of you have heard of the Black Holocaust? Maybe some do, maybe some don't. I have no idea of this. If you haven't heard of it however, here's an interesting reading for you. Learn something.


http://www.exodusnews.com/HISTORY/History007.htm



I think your vision of the Black Panthers is a little misconstrued as well. You have to realize that a group of blacks forming together for social advancement in the 60's scared alot of people in our government. In fact, FBI agent Hoover called them "the greatest threat to the internal security of the United States." Honestly, the fact that blacks were not satisfied with social conditions and were finally showing some sort of unity just scared the f**k outta alot of white politicians. I believe this is somewhere when COINTELPRO takes place. Not to mention that perhaps the most peaceful movement aside from Mahtma Ghandi's was a part of their investigation. By this I am referring to Martin Luther King's. Did they pose a violent threat to our national security? Hardly. Also, if what they were doing was Constitutional it wouldnt've been a scandal.



Read a history book? I fail to see what the purpose of this would be. I have never misquoted any historical facts nor have I proposed any arguments that conflict with any actual facts.

[sadolakced acid]

I'm sorry I did not realize this was English class. If I post like this will it make my points more significant because I appear smarter?
By the way I love all the stats you guys bring up. I could go stat for stat all day and mine will be way more convincing. It really doesn't prove anything though. Here's one for ya... That stat about 473 white people being lynched over a half century was something I did not know. Yet, 300 blacks were killed in one day. Jeez what a discrepancy. How many of you have heard of the Black Holocaust? Maybe some do, maybe some don't. I have no idea of this. If you haven't heard of it however, here's an interesting reading for you. Learn something.
http://www.exodusnews.com/HISTORY/History007.htm
I think your vision of the Black Panthers is a little misconstrued as well. You have to realize that a group of blacks forming together for social advancement in the 60's scared alot of people in our government. In fact, FBI agent Hoover called them "the greatest threat to the internal security of the United States." Honestly, the fact that blacks were not satisfied with social conditions and were finally showing some sort of unity just scared the f**k outta alot of white politicians. I believe this is somewhere when COINTELPRO takes place. Not to mention that perhaps the most peaceful movement aside from Mahtma Ghandi's was a part of their investigation. By this I am referring to Martin Luther King's. Did they pose a violent threat to our national security? Hardly. Also, if what they were doing was Constitutional it wouldnt've been a scandal.
Read a history book? I fail to see what the purpose of this would be. I have never misquoted any historical facts nor have I proposed any arguments that conflict with any actual facts.

the black panthers protested an antigun law by forming a loaded gun toting mob.

it had nothing to do with civil rights. they just formed a mob of blacks carrying loaded guns to protest a gun law.

you know, i think you're right. they are just a peaceful civil rights organization.

and yea, you haven't misquoted facts much. you've completely missed them.

first...what happened to the japanese was a tragedy. that is without a question, using two A-bombs like that was crazy. BUT that also happened during wartime and in response to an unprovoked attack against the US... um have u ever heard of Pearl Harbor?? not to mention that really was nothing like slavery.

umm, hello? that was refering to the internment of americans of japanese decent in concentration camps, the seizure of thier private property, most of which has never been returned. ergo, read a history book.

and if u can read u [....] i already stated... it doesnt matter if ive never been a slave or if my mother, father, grandparents havent either... every black person born feels the repercussions of slavery growing up... just because its abolished does not mean it plays no part in society today and that is what ppl always assume...

you're right. if it weren't for slavery, little black girls could be growing up in darfur being raped instead of growing up in inner city schools failing math.

what reprecussions of slavery do you feel? the ability to grow up not in a third world country? the solidarity and aid of fellow blacks? the affirmative action? the ability to say "that's racist" and get your way?

not to mention that it was the high amount of racism shown by whites in the first place that brought about a need for institutions like black college funds and black history month. whites have already shown in the past that if they arent forced to treat blacks fairly then they wont.

what's this? you can spout words as much as you like- mean nothing without proof. most whites aren't racist. most whites never owned blacks. the KKK was originally a social club.

do you know who the greatest opponet to the formation of the NAACP was?
booker T washington. that's right, a black.

his country was BUILT off of slavery, slaves were the driving economic force in the early stages of our society, not only off the money they generated from themselves, but from the money they generated in the products they produced in the field. for that ALONE there should be a black history month.

no. this country was not build off of slavery. The south was not even built off of slavery. Most whites didn't own slaves. Most were poorer than slaves.

what about the chinese and irish?

ever heard "that job's too dangerous for a slave, get an irishman to do it?"

the irish and the chinese build the railroads, which built the country.


in your posts you show that you've probably only ever paid attention to history during black history month. you are a prime example of the problems of black history month. and the amount of history you know is middle school level.

it wouldn't be a problem if you didn't keep thinking that you knew all the things there are to know.

second... i am far from racist. just b/c i have strong views on what is wrong in this country and am not afraid to voice them does not make me racist. in fact my mother is white. in fact nearly all my best friends are white. u know nothin about who i am outside of wat i post... so please keep your assumptions to yourself. and i never said white ppl are bad but their actions were rather overwhemingly unjust to blacks in the past.

well here's my strong, non racist views.

blacks should get over the freaking slavery thing. not everyone is out to get you. unless you keep saying that, and then i'm out to get you. because i'm discriminatory against stupidity. live with it.

[sillakilla220]

whoa there kiddo... a lil too much info... but i see you need some guidance. let me try to help


[quote name='sadolakced acid' date='Mar 14 2006, 5:46 PM' post='1946569']
the black panthers protested an antigun law by forming a loaded gun toting mob.

it had nothing to do with civil rights. they just formed a mob of blacks carrying loaded guns to protest a gun law.

you know, i think you're right. they are just a peaceful civil rights organization.[/quote]


ok well whether or not the black panthers was peaceful is debatable. They were organized for self-defense in the first place so I guess I would have to say they were not peaceful as well. Yet I think the Black Panthers are viewed as sort of a black KKK which is really not true. Seriously though, they also had established soup kitchens that were feeding roughly 10,000 children breakfeast before school. Not to mention the in the incident that you mention that Bobby Seale, as well as 30 others who were armed, were all arrested and a single round was never fired. It was never a mob, you should be more careful with your words; it was actually a march. Nonetheless, I don't wish to argue this though b/c it is really irrelevant to the original topic so let's move on....

[/quote]and yea, you haven't misquoted facts much. you've completely missed them.
umm, hello? that was refering to the internment of americans of japanese decent in concentration camps, the seizure of thier private property, most of which has never been returned. ergo, read a history book.
you're right. if it weren't for slavery, little black girls could be growing up in darfur being raped instead of growing up in inner city schools failing math.[/quote]


My mistake, I did not realize they were talking about the internment of Japanese when they specifically cited the bombing of Japan. How foolish of me. That was unfortunate as well though but I have to point out that 300 yrs is slightly greater than 15-20 yrs. Not to mention $20,000 was issued to detainees and their families in 1988 during the Raegan administration. No, this does not bring back families and so forth, but it was certainly unnecessary. So... I think you may be the one in need of a history book.

God, please don't give me any what-ifs too. If it weren't for slavery, African countries, America and a lot of other countries in South America and Europe would be completely different. Gimmie a break you gotta come with something better than that...

[/quote]what reprecussions of slavery do you feel? the ability to grow up not in a third world country? the solidarity and aid of fellow blacks? the affirmative action? the ability to say "that's racist" and get your way?
what's this? you can spout words as much as you like- mean nothing without proof. most whites aren't racist. most whites never owned blacks. the KKK was originally a social club.[/quote]


Repercussions? Well for one I, as well as many other African Americans do not have a true sense of heritage. This is true, I am not elaborating to make my point. Whereas many caucasians and/or other immigrants have the ability to trace their roots to a definitive country, all Africans are left with is knowing they came from Africa, yet not a definite region due to the incessant break-up of families. Does this affect how I live my life? Hardly. Yet it is a repercussion of slavery that blacks do feel and that was the question. KKK was a social club. And it has turned into arguably the most notorious violence-driven hate group still in existence. What does their origin prove?

[/quote]do you know who the greatest opponet to the formation of the NAACP was?
booker T washington. that's right, a black.[/quote]

did not realize all blacks had to have the same opinion. Am not really understanding this point. So a black man is opposed to the NCAAP? Guess what? I'm sure there were white ppl who supported it! *gasp* no way!


[/quote]no. this country was not build off of slavery. The south was not even built off of slavery. Most whites didn't own slaves. Most were poorer than slaves.[/quote]


yikes please don't tell me you were serious with that last comment. Slaves couldn't own property or get paid for their jobs in money. How could you be poorer than someone who doesn't own anything??

[/quote]what about the chinese and irish?

ever heard "that job's too dangerous for a slave, get an irishman to do it?"

the irish and the chinese build the railroads, which built the country.
in your posts you show that you've probably only ever paid attention to history during black history month. you are a prime example of the problems of black history month. and the amount of history you know is middle school level. [/quote]


smh... I have to believe that you are actually taking acid sadolakced acid. B/c there were just as many blacks as irish and chinese on the railroads. And the railroads did not build our country.


Please continue taking shots at my arguments... I like it it gives me something to do while I am planning attacks on my white neighbors