The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month. Options

[sadolakced acid]

Original post:

Okay, so I am not trying to be racist or anything, but who here agrees with me that the black people are getting way more recognition than the whites?

Now we have black history month, black activists month, and negro colleges/college funds? This is just not fair.

Everyone believes that if we have a white history month then we will be racist? We aren't. Blacks are getting everything nowadays and if the white people try to put say into anything, it gets shoved back in our face as a racist comment.

I love black history and everything, but I have pride in being white and we get no recognition whatsoever? Does anyone agree with me..

And please don't say I am being racist. I live in the South for God's sake.

here's a link to the original thread:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58363

things to keep in mind whilest you debate:

• there is an asain history month. and a month for whatever else you can think of, except penguins of course. penguins are discriminated against for sure.
• every month is not white history month. check out the previous thread if you want to argue- pretend you posted, and read the multitudes of responses to whenever that was posted- all 14 times.
• read the thread before posting, please. if you can't, at least read the last few pages to get a general sense of what's being argued and what's been brought up.

have a nice day, and happy debating.

[sadolakced acid]

you're right. little black girls in city schools have been disadvantaged by slavery.

they'd be much better off in darfur being raped by the rebels and the army that's supposted to be protecting them.

[sillakilla220]

you're right. little black girls in city schools have been disadvantaged by slavery.

they'd be much better off in darfur being raped by the rebels and the army that's supposted to be protecting them.

umm... this comment is so ignorant i dont know where to start. in fact im not even sure wat that is supposed to mean because it really has no relevance to what i'm talking about. and no its not that i dont understand the situation in f**kin darfur of all places. gimmie a break, did u just learn sumthin new and wanted to throw it out there to show u kno sumthing??



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.... back to the subject tho... nothing_plus_this i think u are very naive. everything u are saying is very idealistic and a lil immature. i can tell you havent had much experience outside of your comfort zone by what you are saying. perfect example is your stance on affirmative action. AA does not mean that some unexperienced worker is going to get the job just b/c they are a different ethnicity. yur crazy... im going to withdraw from this post its too frustrating. its so easy to sit there from the outside and make comments and suggestions of whats so wrong. no one is arguing they are better than anyone else. its never been about superiority. of course there will be the few who think so but u can say that about every race. seriously, i could debate this all day from all angles but its pointless b/c you'll never get it. but please, im beggin you and anyone reading this to study up on COINTELPRO and leave your thoughts about it. to say the past doesnt affect wat is still happening is crazy. did you know that the families of cotton farmers from the early stages of our country are still rich from the empire built off of the earnings made in the slave era? seriously im not making this up. and the slave era is actually about 300 yrs old. so take it as u will just food for thought u do the dishes

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.... back to the subject tho... nothing_plus_this i think u are very naive. everything u are saying is very idealistic and a lil immature. i can tell you havent had much experience outside of your comfort zone by what you are saying. perfect example is your stance on affirmative action. AA does not mean that some unexperienced worker is going to get the job just b/c they are a different ethnicity. yur crazy... im going to withdraw from this post its too frustrating. its so easy to sit there from the outside and make comments and suggestions of whats so wrong. no one is arguing they are better than anyone else. its never been about superiority. of course there will be the few who think so but u can say that about every race. seriously, i could debate this all day from all angles but its pointless b/c you'll never get it. but please, im beggin you and anyone reading this to study up on COINTELPRO and leave your thoughts about it. to say the past doesnt affect wat is still happening is crazy. did you know that the families of cotton farmers from the early stages of our country are still rich from the empire built off of the earnings made in the slave era? seriously im not making this up. and the slave era is actually about 300 yrs old. so take it as u will just food for thought u do the dishes

Just as a pretense...

You need to lose your snooty attitude and show a little respect in this forum when you're replying to people's comments/suggestions. I know you seem to be "gung-ho, go get 'em" about this subject, and that's fine, but don't act like a prick in the process. Slinging around profanity and calling people crazy, naive, and immature is not the way we do things around here, and you're really losing credibility because of it.

First of all, your claim that this country was 'built' on slavery and that many of the riches that the white race commands today are because of the blood and sweat and tears of black slaves is only perhaps 1/25 true. Why? Because so many other factors must be taken into account before you factor slavery into the equation. You're forgetting suffrage with your argument. A chief reason why the white race dominated the economy was because they dominated the vote. This translated directly into economic advantages for white men, in a number of ways. First, they could devise laws that gave them economic privilege, like slavery, or banning women from the workforce. Second, they could vote to spend 100 percent of public funds on themselves. Thus, giving blacks and women the right to vote meant giving them a much larger slice of the economic pie.

You've forgotten that when the white man is in control of the vote, the white man is in control of the laws. However, in 1865 just after the Civil War, the three-fifths clause was rescinded through the 14th and 15th Amendments... "The right... to vote shall not be denied or abridged... on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." Granted many prejudiced states still kept the vote away from blacks with qualifications such as literacy tests and poll taxes. But right after the Civil War blacks were able to vote in such large numbers that they elected what is still a record of black representatives at the federal, state and local levels. And I'm only going off on this tangent because you're making incorrect, generalized claims.

And when it comes to affirmative action, I support it almost 95% of the time -- especially in the workplace, because there, white males don't lose rights; women and minorities simply gain them. What white males actually lose is unfairly gained money, power and privilege.

In college, however, I believe selection should be based almost exclusively on merit -- and financial status should, of course, be factored in as well. I stand firmly against college selection on the basis of race.

To the issue at hand, however, I agree with much of what you've said. Black history month is a great way to put in perspective the injuries of our past that happened in our country. Sometimes I think we overreact, however. Germany paid a large sum in compensatory damages to the state of Israel after World War II -- and since then, it's almost as if they have a clean slate. Yet here in the States, white people that have never had anything to do with slavery or discrimination get harassed by blacks who, truly, have never been forced into servitude themselves. In my honest opinion, we all just need to shut up about ancient history, maintain black history month to remind ourselves, and move on with our racially integrated lives. The way it was supposed to be.