The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month. Options

[sadolakced acid]

Original post:

Okay, so I am not trying to be racist or anything, but who here agrees with me that the black people are getting way more recognition than the whites?

Now we have black history month, black activists month, and negro colleges/college funds? This is just not fair.

Everyone believes that if we have a white history month then we will be racist? We aren't. Blacks are getting everything nowadays and if the white people try to put say into anything, it gets shoved back in our face as a racist comment.

I love black history and everything, but I have pride in being white and we get no recognition whatsoever? Does anyone agree with me..

And please don't say I am being racist. I live in the South for God's sake.

here's a link to the original thread:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58363

things to keep in mind whilest you debate:

• there is an asain history month. and a month for whatever else you can think of, except penguins of course. penguins are discriminated against for sure.
• every month is not white history month. check out the previous thread if you want to argue- pretend you posted, and read the multitudes of responses to whenever that was posted- all 14 times.
• read the thread before posting, please. if you can't, at least read the last few pages to get a general sense of what's being argued and what's been brought up.

have a nice day, and happy debating.

[sadolakced acid]

you're right. little black girls in city schools have been disadvantaged by slavery.

they'd be much better off in darfur being raped by the rebels and the army that's supposted to be protecting them.

[sillakilla220]

you're right. little black girls in city schools have been disadvantaged by slavery.

they'd be much better off in darfur being raped by the rebels and the army that's supposted to be protecting them.

umm... this comment is so ignorant i dont know where to start. in fact im not even sure wat that is supposed to mean because it really has no relevance to what i'm talking about. and no its not that i dont understand the situation in f**kin darfur of all places. gimmie a break, did u just learn sumthin new and wanted to throw it out there to show u kno sumthing??



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.... back to the subject tho... nothing_plus_this i think u are very naive. everything u are saying is very idealistic and a lil immature. i can tell you havent had much experience outside of your comfort zone by what you are saying. perfect example is your stance on affirmative action. AA does not mean that some unexperienced worker is going to get the job just b/c they are a different ethnicity. yur crazy... im going to withdraw from this post its too frustrating. its so easy to sit there from the outside and make comments and suggestions of whats so wrong. no one is arguing they are better than anyone else. its never been about superiority. of course there will be the few who think so but u can say that about every race. seriously, i could debate this all day from all angles but its pointless b/c you'll never get it. but please, im beggin you and anyone reading this to study up on COINTELPRO and leave your thoughts about it. to say the past doesnt affect wat is still happening is crazy. did you know that the families of cotton farmers from the early stages of our country are still rich from the empire built off of the earnings made in the slave era? seriously im not making this up. and the slave era is actually about 300 yrs old. so take it as u will just food for thought u do the dishes

[nothing_plus_thi...]

.... back to the subject tho... nothing_plus_this i think u are very naive. everything u are saying is very idealistic and a lil immature. i can tell you havent had much experience outside of your comfort zone by what you are saying. perfect example is your stance on affirmative action. AA does not mean that some unexperienced worker is going to get the job just b/c they are a different ethnicity. yur crazy... im going to withdraw from this post its too frustrating. its so easy to sit there from the outside and make comments and suggestions of whats so wrong. no one is arguing they are better than anyone else. its never been about superiority. of course there will be the few who think so but u can say that about every race. seriously, i could debate this all day from all angles but its pointless b/c you'll never get it. but please, im beggin you and anyone reading this to study up on COINTELPRO and leave your thoughts about it. to say the past doesnt affect wat is still happening is crazy. did you know that the families of cotton farmers from the early stages of our country are still rich from the empire built off of the earnings made in the slave era? seriously im not making this up. and the slave era is actually about 300 yrs old. so take it as u will just food for thought u do the dishes

uh. yes, yes that does happen with affirmative action. people are so caught up in meeting their QUOTA of MINORITIES that they ignore some very qualified and experienced white people. it's been going on all over the place ever since affirmative action was approved. so don't try and call me naive or ignorant or crazy, mmk? look at what happens at universities, police departments, fire departments, corporations, they gotta fill their QUOTAS!!! and, i'm sorry, but if that isn't degrading to people of colour, i don't know what would be. YOU'RE NOTHING BUT ANOTHER PERSON FILLING THEIR QUOTA. cmon, kid. it's wrong. it's just another form of segration and discrimination disguised as something good. but, apparently it must not matter to minorities because they're getting amazing jobs and educations because of it. but, if it were a quota that had to be filled in sweatshops and fields, you'd be pissed. it's the same old situation, you're getting what you want so you LOVE it. regardless of how wrong or backwards it is.

also, keep in mind that i am a woman. i am considered to be one of the "minorities" included in affirmative action. and i still think it's wrong. if there is a man applying for the same job as me, and he is extremely well qualified and good at it, i will gladly step down and allow him to have the job. regardless of whether i get first dibs on it or not due to affirmative action. because it is the right thing to do. i would not want to be stuck doing a job i'm not the best at while knowing that a man who could have done an amazing job at is is stuck searching for another.

and, if i am at all naive, it is because i live in MAINE. one of the states with the lowest amount of diversity. so, you are absolutely correct when you think i have NO idea what your perspective is like. but, i have had 13 years of a good education and i have been taught many times by people with varying perspectives and opinions. so i have heard almost all of it. which is enough, in my opinion. to form my own opinions on something.

and you wouldn't be thinking about attacking me and calling me crazy if you knew what my father was like. i grew up in a household run by a complete bigot. i have been knocked down to the level of housemaid my entire life because he is sexist and cruel. so i certainly know what it's like to feel lower than people simply because i'm a woman. but, i also hate feminism. AND! i am "sexually confused" which means, i lean towards being a lesbian. can you even imagine what it must be like for me to hear my father talk about faggots and dykes every five minutes while i'm sitting there struggling with the thought of him even having a CLUE as to what i am? yet, i hate people who run around demanding that homosexuals be treated special and be treated with more rights than a heterosexual person. because i believe in equality. i don't believe in dragging men down to an oppressed woman's level so he knows it's like. and i don't believe in condemning heterosexuals so THEY know what it feels like. i just want to be seen as MORE than a bisexual female. because i find it degrading to me as a person. special treatment does NOT help, in my opinion. it simply keeps people at the low level they've been stuck on for their entire lives.

so. for the record. i agree that the United States was formed on the backs and with the sweat and blood of slaves. i know that. i would never take that history away. but, i also agree that it was formed on the backs and with the sweat and blood of native americans and white businessmen and politicians and oppressed women. it is a union of many different people and many different people have died in order for it to be what it is. and there has been so many injustices and so much unfairness it pains me to even think about it. but, i also believe that...as long as these things are brought up and as long as people demand for everyone to repay them for the work people of the past did and treat them special because of it, the country's progress will stand still.

we are different people than those who were here during the slave trade and the civil war. we are the people that those slaves and those oppressed people were hoping and praying for to save them. and we are doing nothing but using them as an excuse to get special treatment and collect rights. we are once again, trying to build a new and better country on their backs and with their blood that was spilled by the tyranical monsters who enslaved them.

please, now tell me if you think all of this arguing and whining is really helping anything. if you think hanging on to the past is really doing any good whatsoever. while you could be out PROVING yourself. fighting the system of white rich men who have love affairs with oil and weapons. so that one day, your future children or relatives will be and to hold their head high and say that you did it on your own without the petty attempts at help and handouts from the government.

yes. i am idealistic. you are absolutely correct. but is it so much worse than being stuck in a past that is littered with murder and oppression? at least i can look to the future and hope for something. and try and figure out ways to make it so people will see themselves as completely equal and see the world as fair and good. and yes, that means TRUE equality. using these definitions:

the quality or state of being equal
&
like for each member of a group, class, or society. regarding or affecting all objects in the same way.