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The racism of black history month, v. 2.0, from white history month.
sadolakced acid
post Mar 3 2006, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Jan 22 2005, 11:15 AM) *
Okay, so I am not trying to be racist or anything, but who here agrees with me that the black people are getting way more recognition than the whites?

Now we have black history month, black activists month, and negro colleges/college funds? This is just not fair.

Everyone believes that if we have a white history month then we will be racist? We aren't. Blacks are getting everything nowadays and if the white people try to put say into anything, it gets shoved back in our face as a racist comment.

I love black history and everything, but I have pride in being white and we get no recognition whatsoever? Does anyone agree with me..

And please don't say I am being racist. I live in the South for God's sake.



here's a link to the original thread:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58363

things to keep in mind whilest you debate:
  • there is an asain history month. and a month for whatever else you can think of, except penguins of course. penguins are discriminated against for sure.
  • every month is not white history month. check out the previous thread if you want to argue- pretend you posted, and read the multitudes of responses to whenever that was posted- all 14 times.
  • read the thread before posting, please. if you can't, at least read the last few pages to get a general sense of what's being argued and what's been brought up.
have a nice day, and happy debating.
 
 
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sillakilla220
post Mar 12 2006, 05:09 PM
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this is a f**ked up thread just for all the ignorant comments left. if u are really tryin to make the argument that more advantages are offered to blacks u are on crystal meth. blacks are easily the most prejudiced race in the country. no offense, but just b/c slaves no longer exist in the country does not mean that blacks do not still feel the repercussions of slavery. this country was BUILT off of slavery, slaves were the driving economic force in the early stages of our society, not only off the money they generated from themselves, but from the money they generated in the products they produced in the field. for that ALONE there should be a black history month.

not to mention that it was the high amount of racism shown by whites in the first place that brought about a need for institutions like black college funds and black history month. whites have already shown in the past that if they arent forced to treat blacks fairly then they wont. and if u dont learn from history your doomed to repeat it. and for those asking "why isnt there white history month?" i will answer that with a few questions of my own... "how many whites were subjected to such poor standards of living in the early 1900s?"... or "how many whites were hunted down and lynched while crosses burned in their front yards?"... or "how many white leaders were gunned down at the peak of their popularity?" (kennedy's excluded)

and i'm not gonna quote it but whoever made such a big point of the blacks being freed by a white man should be slapped. yeah i applaud lincoln but it took 16 presidents b4 one of them realized slavery was morally wrong? the fact that there was even slavery in the first place should be the bigger issue rather than who freed them...


but to wrap up this lil tirade of mine i will just end it w/ one word.... COINTELPRO... if u are not aware wat this is then google it and get yur learn on cuz its quite interesting and may change the way some of u think
 
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QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 12 2006, 4:09 PM) *
and for those asking "why isnt there white history month?" i will answer that with a few questions of my own...

"how many whites were subjected to such poor standards of living in the early 1900s?"


An outstanding majority of immigrants, of many different races (Including 'whites'). Much of America lived in poverty. Today, according to the US Census Bureau, more whites living in America suffer from poverty than any other race. Exactly 22,184 whites live in poverty today; That is 9.7% of the entire white population . Native Americans, Hispanics, and African Americans have the highest percentage of poverty today. 8,186 (22.9%) blacks live in poverty. 783 (24.5%) native americans. 7,873 (21.9%) hispanics.

I hope that answers your question.

QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 12 2006, 4:09 PM) *
... or "how many whites were hunted down and lynched while crosses burned in their front yards?"...


From 1882 to 1951, 10% of Lynching victims were whites. As 4,733 persons have died from being lynched, that means that 473 white men have been "hunted down and lynched."

I hope that answers your question.

QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 12 2006, 4:09 PM) *
or "how many white leaders were gunned down at the peak of their popularity?" (kennedy's excluded)


I don't see why Kenndy's is excluded? That doesn't seem fair.
I'll say all four assassinated presidents, including Kennedy.
It's a bit of a harder subject to research, and I don't want to start naming of Klan members (Ha!), so I'll leave it at that.

QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 12 2006, 4:09 PM) *
and i'm not gonna quote it but whoever made such a big point of the blacks being freed by a white man should be slapped. yeah i applaud lincoln but it took 16 presidents b4 one of them realized slavery was morally wrong? the fact that there was even slavery in the first place should be the bigger issue rather than who freed them...


I'm sure Lincoln wasn't the first president to realize slavery was "morally wrong". He was just the first man to end the trade in America. And, I bet you would have been damn proud of his weak position on the matter when he was running for office! Can't say too much about those slaves, they make us money! Gotta get votes! Gotta get those votes!

Not to mention, I honestly don't think you understand the scope of slavery and the reality of its trade in colonial America. The slave trade existed long before the English colonized America all over the world, and most importantly, in Africa. Europeans rarely kidnapped slaves, they traded for them from African tribes. African communities, who already had an established slave trade, expanded their business for the prospect of European goods. Young black men would be taken prisoner by their own tribes to be sold to white men for guns, metals, and even sea shells. This was, for some time, part of the Triangular trade. In fact, this trade was ended by the United Kingdom. In, what would be described today as cultural imperialism, a moral outrage, European powers in Africa began to supress the salve trade.

Slavery would continue, through breeding, in the states until the end of the Civil War. And, today, slavery does not exist in most western and eastern societies. However, the most prominent slave economy today can be found in Africa.

Kind of not the picture we usually get, huh?

QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 12 2006, 4:09 PM) *
but to wrap up this lil tirade of mine i will just end it w/ one word.... COINTELPRO... if u are not aware wat this is then google it and get yur learn on cuz its quite interesting and may change the way some of u think


Yeah. We know about it.
So what?
What the hell does that have to do with this?
I mean, sure, they worked to discredit and damage several civil rights movements. However, don't forget that they also fought against racist and nationalist parties such as the Ku Klux Klan, and the American Nazi Party. Also, their actions have been apologized for and ceased. They don't operate any longer. And, how does that validate, in any way, a black history month?
 

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