waaaa.

yes. you could go stat for stat all day. and that just proves the point that you're just out for pity over something that never even happened to you. it proves that you rather enjoy playing the race card and using the past as a way to get what you want.

so, again, waaaaa.

LOL!

I'll dumb it down; I'm sorry.
You have this sort of perception that only white people can be racist and that they receive no discrimination ever. This is untrue. I was giving examples of cases in which races other than caucasian were discriminatory. It wasn't "the white people" who limited minorities; it's happened with plenty of other races all over the world and it was the African tribesleaders who sold their people into slavery first while already having an existing slave trade. It was just easier to escape and be free in Africa because it wasn't so blatantly obvious as to who was a slave and who wasn't.

True that - white's aren't the only people who have the potential to be racist - like he said, African people sold their own people into slavery. They did have an existing slave trade even before the Europeans got mixed up in it, I believe.

Anyway, have you ever thought that a black person was racist towards a white - I have. It seems that sometimes some people can be overly sensitive to ill-perceived (misunderstood) comments seen as racist when they are not.

I'm a she.

the black panthers protested an antigun law by forming a loaded gun toting mob.

it had nothing to do with civil rights. they just formed a mob of blacks carrying loaded guns to protest a gun law.

you know, i think you're right. they are just a peaceful civil rights organization.

and yea, you haven't misquoted facts much. you've completely missed them.




umm, hello? that was refering to the internment of americans of japanese decent in concentration camps, the seizure of thier private property, most of which has never been returned. ergo, read a history book.



you're right. if it weren't for slavery, little black girls could be growing up in darfur being raped instead of growing up in inner city schools failing math.

what reprecussions of slavery do you feel? the ability to grow up not in a third world country? the solidarity and aid of fellow blacks? the affirmative action? the ability to say "that's racist" and get your way?



what's this? you can spout words as much as you like- mean nothing without proof. most whites aren't racist. most whites never owned blacks. the KKK was originally a social club.

do you know who the greatest opponet to the formation of the NAACP was?
booker T washington. that's right, a black.



no. this country was not build off of slavery. The south was not even built off of slavery. Most whites didn't own slaves. Most were poorer than slaves.

what about the chinese and irish?

ever heard "that job's too dangerous for a slave, get an irishman to do it?"

the irish and the chinese build the railroads, which built the country.


in your posts you show that you've probably only ever paid attention to history during black history month. you are a prime example of the problems of black history month. and the amount of history you know is middle school level.

it wouldn't be a problem if you didn't keep thinking that you knew all the things there are to know.



well here's my strong, non racist views.

blacks should get over the freaking slavery thing. not everyone is out to get you. unless you keep saying that, and then i'm out to get you. because i'm discriminatory against stupidity. live with it.

whoa there kiddo... a lil too much info... but i see you need some guidance. let me try to help


[quote name='sadolakced acid' date='Mar 14 2006, 5:46 PM' post='1946569']
the black panthers protested an antigun law by forming a loaded gun toting mob.

it had nothing to do with civil rights. they just formed a mob of blacks carrying loaded guns to protest a gun law.

you know, i think you're right. they are just a peaceful civil rights organization.[/quote]


ok well whether or not the black panthers was peaceful is debatable. They were organized for self-defense in the first place so I guess I would have to say they were not peaceful as well. Yet I think the Black Panthers are viewed as sort of a black KKK which is really not true. Seriously though, they also had established soup kitchens that were feeding roughly 10,000 children breakfeast before school. Not to mention the in the incident that you mention that Bobby Seale, as well as 30 others who were armed, were all arrested and a single round was never fired. It was never a mob, you should be more careful with your words; it was actually a march. Nonetheless, I don't wish to argue this though b/c it is really irrelevant to the original topic so let's move on....

[/quote]and yea, you haven't misquoted facts much. you've completely missed them.
umm, hello? that was refering to the internment of americans of japanese decent in concentration camps, the seizure of thier private property, most of which has never been returned. ergo, read a history book.
you're right. if it weren't for slavery, little black girls could be growing up in darfur being raped instead of growing up in inner city schools failing math.[/quote]


My mistake, I did not realize they were talking about the internment of Japanese when they specifically cited the bombing of Japan. How foolish of me. That was unfortunate as well though but I have to point out that 300 yrs is slightly greater than 15-20 yrs. Not to mention $20,000 was issued to detainees and their families in 1988 during the Raegan administration. No, this does not bring back families and so forth, but it was certainly unnecessary. So... I think you may be the one in need of a history book.

God, please don't give me any what-ifs too. If it weren't for slavery, African countries, America and a lot of other countries in South America and Europe would be completely different. Gimmie a break you gotta come with something better than that...

[/quote]what reprecussions of slavery do you feel? the ability to grow up not in a third world country? the solidarity and aid of fellow blacks? the affirmative action? the ability to say "that's racist" and get your way?
what's this? you can spout words as much as you like- mean nothing without proof. most whites aren't racist. most whites never owned blacks. the KKK was originally a social club.[/quote]


Repercussions? Well for one I, as well as many other African Americans do not have a true sense of heritage. This is true, I am not elaborating to make my point. Whereas many caucasians and/or other immigrants have the ability to trace their roots to a definitive country, all Africans are left with is knowing they came from Africa, yet not a definite region due to the incessant break-up of families. Does this affect how I live my life? Hardly. Yet it is a repercussion of slavery that blacks do feel and that was the question. KKK was a social club. And it has turned into arguably the most notorious violence-driven hate group still in existence. What does their origin prove?

[/quote]do you know who the greatest opponet to the formation of the NAACP was?
booker T washington. that's right, a black.[/quote]

did not realize all blacks had to have the same opinion. Am not really understanding this point. So a black man is opposed to the NCAAP? Guess what? I'm sure there were white ppl who supported it! *gasp* no way!


[/quote]no. this country was not build off of slavery. The south was not even built off of slavery. Most whites didn't own slaves. Most were poorer than slaves.[/quote]


yikes please don't tell me you were serious with that last comment. Slaves couldn't own property or get paid for their jobs in money. How could you be poorer than someone who doesn't own anything??

[/quote]what about the chinese and irish?

ever heard "that job's too dangerous for a slave, get an irishman to do it?"

the irish and the chinese build the railroads, which built the country.
in your posts you show that you've probably only ever paid attention to history during black history month. you are a prime example of the problems of black history month. and the amount of history you know is middle school level. [/quote]


smh... I have to believe that you are actually taking acid sadolakced acid. B/c there were just as many blacks as irish and chinese on the railroads. And the railroads did not build our country.


Please continue taking shots at my arguments... I like it it gives me something to do while I am planning attacks on my white neighbors

now i know you're just blowing ----.

there were not many blacks on the railroads.

the railroads did build the country, regardless of what you may think.

and no, some whites did not support the NAACP. the NAACP was an organization created by whites.

let me ask you, what's the highest level of american history you have taken?

because you must realize, half of the things taught in lower levels is so simplified it isn't true.

can i just ask one kind of unrelated question?

how old are you, sillakilla220?

i'm just curious.

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Well for one I, as well as many other African Americans do not have a true sense of heritage. This is true, I am not elaborating to make my point. Whereas many caucasians and/or other immigrants have the ability to trace their roots to a definitive country, all Africans are left with is knowing they came from Africa, yet not a definite region due to the incessant break-up of families. Does this affect how I live my life? Hardly. Yet it is a repercussion of slavery that blacks do feel and that was the question. KKK was a social club. And it has turned into arguably the most notorious violence-driven hate group still in existence. What does their origin prove?

Really? Cause...I can't do that. I'm pretty white, but I have absolutely no idea what country my family was originally from. I have heritage in Germany, Austria, Poland, England, Scotland, France, Russia, and more that I don't know (so really all I know is Europe, like, a continent, kind of like Africa, another continent). Please enlighten me as to how I can figure all of this out.

Not to mention the absence of a great-grandmother in the tree, with her being outright murdered during the Holocaust.

But you know, I would have no idea what it's like to have family members who had any discrimination against them at all, and nothing is lost because of it...

no one specifically mentioned the bombing in japan. if i recall correctly, i mentioned what happened to the japanese americans IN AMERICA during WWII.

read carefully before jumping off into a self righteous rant.

and 300 years is less than 1000.


..sigh.

is it just me and sammi who are going the jewish route?

w/e.

..

why is it that if any white person says that black people shouldnt be rewarded for past racism, they come off as racist?
thats why im kind of wary to post in this topic anymore. because everytime im labeled as a racist.

and huzzah to sammi. i can trace my ancestry to the former soviet union.

thats a LOT of countries.
do i know where i come from? no.

and technically, we all come from africa.

Sorry, guess I should have clarified myself for the remedial ones out there. I should have said the avg. caucasian, as well as avg black. I hope you didn't truly think I meant every white person knew their heritage, because that would be quite impossible. You showing that your lack of knowledge regarding heritage really doesn't prove anything b/c I'm sure there are blacks who have more heritage knowledge than you do of your family. Does this mean what I stated is untrue? No... I was merely implying this on a much grander scale.




My bad I thought someone referenced the actual bombings. They didn't though... watever still should've made their point more clear.




how old u think i am? guess. i'll be honest.






But what does American railroads or who founded the NCAAP have to do with the original posts. Its like you guys are all trying to compare other mishaps in history to try to belittle slavery somehow. Yes, obviously no race in history has been treated equal at all times. Unquestionable. Yet at a certain period of time in the country that we live in, about 300 yrs to be precise, during such a crucial period of development of our society in emerging as its own entity, one particular race was enslaved in horrible conditions. Upon gaining a release from slavery, a more situated race (not every single person) did what they could to continue their higher place in society, even instituting laws to legally do so for awhile. Because of this, a rift has always existed between the two. Not saying no other race was done wrong. Not saying no black has never participated in a racially-charged act toward a white. Not saying any of this. Not even saying other races don't deserve national recognition, b/c if you ask me I think they do. But this topic was about blacks and if they deserved their spot and I spoke my peace.

and where the f**k are the supporters at??? Damn wtf? I'm rollin solo on this shit n still wreckin y'all faggots...

Sorry, I knew that - I typoed... (I'm stupid)

16!?!

yeah. and it's quotes like that that are probably scaring off all of your "supporters". or maybe i'm right in my conclusions that not all black people are self righteous assholes. (he called us faggots, i deserve one meek comeback, no?)

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^ You are an idiot. Plain and simple.

And not because of your opinions or your intelligence, simply through your demeanor.

Looks like you're the one who didn't read the original post. It was a continuation of a thread called "White History Month," which asked if African Americans are highly recognized, why not whites? Why not the other races? The American railroads were built largely by immigrants, yet the people of these ethnicity don't get recognition on the scale that African Americans get.

Belittle slavery? Isn't it a good thing to belittle slavery? Slavery is bad.



Based on your attitude and posts, I'm sure anyone who is remotely in support of Black History Month is trying to distance themselves from your comments.

ahh i can see that you don't really understand what belittle means.





I'm an idiot huh. Through my demeanor on some gay online blogging thing with a bunch of little teeny-boppers. Suuuuuure. Well I'm sorry I'm not writing things dumbed down to a 7th grader's level. If I got a warning for member bashing this *i*c* should as well. I've actually shown the most competence in this argument seeing how points I make are actually relevant and a lot of the questions or inquiries I proposed were left unanswered thoroughly.



Seriously, enlighten us to another race or class of people you have considered more prejudiced against in the history of our country which should get its own month. Women rightfully get their month as well, seeing how it is March. How come I don't see any threads complaining about their month? J/W.... As I was saying though, besides women the only group/class/race I view as being largely discriminated against in our society is gays... but that's another topic... Ok, so Irish and Chinese built the railroads... this was one isolated event in our history. Give or take 30 yrs. Maybe blacks are considered too favorably in some instances of our country. I don't agree with that but I can understand the perspective. To question a motnh is foolish

Chinese.


ever heard of the Chinese Exclusion Act?
they were the ones who worked on the railroads.

they were the ones who were forced out of the country.

yes, blacks endured horrible prejudice.

so did the Irish, jews, germans (especially germans!)..etc.
but they all were allowed to stay in the country!

Chinese were banned for 10 years from even entering the USA. immigrants in general were not welcomed into the country.

And Native Americans?

You want to talk about prejudice against a race at the hands of white people?

Black discrimination pales in comparison.

I'm loving this.

From Websters

belittle
One entry found for belittle.
Main Entry: be·lit·tle
Pronunciation: bi-'li-t&l
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -lit·tled; be·lit·tling /-'li-t&l-i[ng], -'lit-li[ng]/
1 : to speak slightingly of : DISPARAGE <belittles her efforts>
2 : to cause (a person or thing) to seem little or less

So I suppose it's wrong to speak disparigingly of slavery? Or to reduce its validity?




Great, you're putting words in my mouth. I never resorted to ad hominem attacks against you. Meanwhile, you've called us idiots and faggots. Which constitutes as a violation of our policy.

Pretty much, what you've been doing on this thread was post a bunch of arguements which we have refuted, then you completely ignore our refutations and then call us idiots and faggots. This is why the thread is going nowhere.

You do realize that we're all in high school (or above, as in Justin [crackedrearview]'s case), right? Not in 7th grade? Yea, just clarifying that...and, really, it's kind of silly to try to insult us based on our age when it is blatantly clear that despite our young ages (I'm only 15! ), our minds are farther advanced.

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Seriously, enlighten us to another race or class of people you have considered more prejudiced against in the history of our country which should get its own month. Women rightfully get their month as well, seeing how it is March. How come I don't see any threads complaining about their month? J/W.... As I was saying though, besides women the only group/class/race I view as being largely discriminated against in our society is gays... but that's another topic... Ok, so Irish and Chinese built the railroads... this was one isolated event in our history. Give or take 30 yrs. Maybe blacks are considered too favorably in some instances of our country. I don't agree with that but I can understand the perspective. To question a motnh is foolish

1. We are not trying to say that there are no other months; in fact, we've made the point time and time again that there are months for almost every ethnicity in the United States, but they are not nearly as recognized as Black History Month, which is why no one knows that they exist. This is about unfair treatment and favoritism. There shouldn't be any months at all because no race "deserves" more attention and recognition than another. If it is equality we are working towards, then why not make things equal?
2. THE JEWS GODDAMN HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE POINTED OUT?! THE JEEEEEWWWWWSSS!!!
You do realize that the KKK that you keep referring to also makes many attacks against those of Jewish faith?
All over the world, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES, there has ALWAYS been anti-semitism, far longer than there has been against those of African descent.

Since you seem to think that everyone else gets fair and equal treatment, why in the world is there no month for Jews? And it's not that no one knows about it; there isn't one. The Holocaust really isn't the only time that there was ever any anti-semitic feelings.
3. We're not complaining about the Women's Rights Month because it's not recognized. Like, at all. Ever.

true... well it doesnt pale but it is just as bad if not worse

I have to disagree and say that the persecution of Native Americans was much worse. I really hate to use the Hitler/Nazi arguement in any debate, but Hitler admired the United States for its treatment of Native Americans and tried to emulate this in the Holocaust.

This is not to say that I believe in affirmative action in favor of Native Americans either (or the fact that people are always trying to find Native American blood in their family history, especially when applying to colleges).

minds are farther advanced? this does not even make me upset, it only results in arising a slight chuckle as I am overly confident you could not even begin to mentally compare with me, on a social, intellectual, or political sense. sorry.



You know what I can't answer why Black History Month is promoted so much more than any other. I suppose some on here would claim it is b/c if not blacks would cry racism. Which is possible. But you haven't given a month for another race that is recognized by our government. Not saying it doesn't exist but I am unaware of such a month and you have yet to produce one.




oh and Women's rights month isnt recognized? I find this funny b/c just today at my school there was an outdoor seminar in the center of campus coinciding with Women's Month and how their roles have changed. Not to mention I've seen commercials for it. And anti-semitic feelings are one thing. Laws physically preventing a race from equality is another. I'm sorry kid, but its like I said - all races have been prejudiced. America is built on its mixing pot culture of immigrants. I'm compelled to ask though who you honestly think has been more disenfranchised than blacks. Yeah, Native Americans have been shitted on too. But if you mean to tell me Jews are more deserving b/c of anti-semetic feelings I feel you are proving your ignorance. All minorities are hated on, but with blacks its different. White ppl are scared of blacks for watever reason. maybe for physical issues, or maybe b/c they are scared what would happen if black ppl truly gained majority power, but they are definitely scared. NO I DON'T MEAN EVERY f**king WHITE PERSON IS SCARED OF EVERY f**king BLACK PERSON. It's true in most cases though.










Actually I've responded to any claims made against me please elaborate as to which points I've ignored b/c I've done an adequate job at dismantling any arguments given.