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war in iraq
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post May 6 2004, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Nehima @ May 6 2004, 6:35 PM)
i think iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. bush was just looking for someone to blame that we were actually capable of capturing. he fooled americans into thinking that we were "liberating" the iraqi people. but we're not--most don't even want us there and innocent troops are dying. the united nations didn't fully support the war. it isn't exactly smart to have the world dislike you. but if we take our troops out now, it will look bad because we didn't finish something that got started.

so, in conclusion, i do NOT support the war in iraq--at all.

ummm, not really. the iraqi people are thankful that we liberated them from saddam, it's just that they want us out ASAP. We're still there so that the country can stabilize. I don't see how troops can be innocent. It's as if you put them on the same level as civilians. if you didn't know, the entire UN didn't oppose the war. The whole world doesn't hate us.


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We say it is a war on terrorism, but how come we are fighting ONE country. The terorist did nto all come from Iraq and even if they did they are the majority of the country. If it is a war on terrorism we would not be fighting one country.


Way to show support for the troops in Afghanistan by forgetting that they're there.
 
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post May 6 2004, 07:26 PM
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i think iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.


Even if that's true, I'd still support US presence there. Iraq had connections with terrorists (plus sadam was evil) and that's reason enough for me.

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he fooled americans into thinking that we were "liberating" the iraqi people.


He didn't fooled me. LOL. Helping Iraqis and getting rid of Sadam is shooting two birds with one stone. Actually, add oil to the whole thing, and I think Bush pretty smart.

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most don't even want us there and innocent troops are dying.


That's the price of war... and it's also the price of freedom. Pray for them.

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it isn't exactly smart to have the world dislike you.


The only country that really has a problem with us waring and actually shows it right now is France. In other countries, the people may protest but their governments don't exactly care.
 
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post May 7 2004, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 7 2004, 12:26 AM)
The only country that really has a problem with us waring and actually shows it right now is France. In other countries, the people may protest but their governments don't exactly care.

Waring? what the hell's that? That female writer from New Zealand? lol, just joking. i know you mean "waging war"

So is there anything wrong with France not supporting the war? Are they in the wrong to have problems with it?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong in them not supporting the war. I don't see why some Americans had to go all anti-French and rename "French fries" to "Freedom fries". If anything is wrong, then it has to be this stupid anti-French movement.
 
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post May 7 2004, 01:47 PM
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american soldiers are being so wrong the the iragis over there...did yall kno that?
my parents and my brother are so pissed about the american soldiers molesting the iraqi prisoners in iraq...
 
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post May 7 2004, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 7 2004, 12:35 PM)
Waring? what the hell's that? That female writer from New Zealand? lol, just joking. i know you mean "waging war"

So is there anything wrong with France not supporting the war? Are they in the wrong to have problems with it?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong in them not supporting the war. I don't see why some Americans had to go all anti-French and rename "French fries" to "Freedom fries". If anything is wrong, then it has to be this stupid anti-French movement.

I personally don't care if the french don't support us, it's not like they'd be much help anyways

To me the renaming to "freedom fries" is just stupid. It's not like I'm gonna go around asking for "freedom toast" or tell my hubby..."hey let's freedom kiss" biggrin.gif
 
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post May 7 2004, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 6 2004, 6:56 PM)
Way to show support for the troops in Afghanistan by forgetting that they're there.

What? I'm not understanding except that you are trying to be sarcastic
 
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post May 7 2004, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(xscore @ May 7 2004, 2:47 PM)
american soldiers are being so wrong the the iragis over there...did yall kno that?
my parents and my brother are so pissed about the american soldiers molesting the iraqi prisoners in iraq...

Didn't someone mention this before? Yes, they did, but it's not like all the American soldiers are doing that, you know. Besides, there's always going to be a few bad apples in a bunch.
 
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post May 7 2004, 07:37 PM
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Waring?


Peope are entitled to mispelled words, and that's supposed to tbe warring. And yes, warring is a word, look it up in the dictionary. If you want to do a spelling contest, I'm all for it. But I meant warring, not 'waging war'.

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So is there anything wrong with France not supporting the war? Are they in the wrong to have problems with it?


I'm not so narrow-minded as to not know that people have different perspectives. Did I say that there's something wrong with France protesting this war? I don't have a problem with the French and their protests, I was stating that as an example.


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some Americans had to go all anti-French and rename "French fries" to "Freedom fries". If anything is wrong, then it has to be this stupid anti-French movement.


How yesterday are you? Do you even hear those silly terms anymore. I'll admit that I thought it was pretty immature for some Americans to do that, but I'm sure the French have terms for Americans as well. I'm a French minor, I would know.
 
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post May 7 2004, 08:24 PM
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jest leave it to the govermant to decide
 
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post May 7 2004, 09:40 PM
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Our "anti-French movement" is only a response to anti-America protests. Fair is fair right?
 
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post May 7 2004, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 7 2004, 2:47 PM)
What? I'm not understanding except that you are trying to be sarcastic

the person i quoted said we shouldn't be fighting one country. the war on terrorism isn't againsta country. it's against the terrorists. in afghanistan. in iraq. all around the world.
 
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post May 8 2004, 04:44 AM
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I wonder how many people would have opposed the decision if the government decided not to go to war.
 
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post May 8 2004, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 7 2004, 10:11 PM)
the person i quoted said we shouldn't be fighting one country. the war on terrorism isn't againsta country. it's against the terrorists. in afghanistan. in iraq. all around the world.

what i am saying is you can't just fight one country as we are. We are bombing Iraq and killing Iraqi citizens, most who have nothing to do with terrorism. We are being the terrorist in their country.
 
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post May 8 2004, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 8 2004, 2:06 PM)
what i am saying is you can't just fight one country as we are. We are bombing Iraq and killing Iraqi citizens, most who have nothing to do with terrorism. We are being the terrorist in their country.

exactly how many civilians were killed by american military action? not many. we are not being terrorists, we are not maliciously killing civilians.
 
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People over exagerate everything American.
 
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post May 8 2004, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 8 2004, 1:06 PM)
what i am saying is you can't just fight one country as we are. We are bombing Iraq and killing Iraqi citizens, most who have nothing to do with terrorism. We are being the terrorist in their country.

get it through your head. we are not fighting one country. we are also in Afghanistan. the citizen killing is not purposefully done. terrorist actions are targeted at civilians. we are not targeting them. they are dying because of collateral damage.
 
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post May 8 2004, 11:17 PM
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get it through my head. i must be mistaken if this war hasn't been called not only the war on terrorism but the war in iraq?? so obviously we are fighting one country, two if you add afghanistan. i don't see us blowing up iran,north korea, and other places that have widely known terrorist gorups. We are bing terrorist. Why because the definiton of being a terrorist- One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

adj.
Of or relating to terrorism.

Terrorism- The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.

Terrorizing- To fill or overpower with terror; terrify.
To coerce by intimidation or fear

Terror- Intense, overpowering fear. See Synonyms at fear.
One that instills intense fear;The ability to instill intense fear.

To these Iraqi people we are being terrorist, why because we are striking fear in their hearts. it does not matter if we mean to or not. the fact is we are. sure you aren't going to see it as terrorism, because you are obviously not being the one afraid to go outside for fear of being killed by invaders in their country.

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exactly how many civilians were killed by american military action? not many. we are not being terrorists, we are not maliciously killing civilians.


You do not have to kill someone to be a terrorist.

Based on what is so far known, evidence that the total number of civilians killed in the conflict is well above 5,000.
 
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post May 8 2004, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 9 2004, 12:17 AM)
get it through my head. i must be mistaken if this war hasn't been called not only the war on terrorism but the war in iraq?? so obviously we are fighting one country, two if you add afghanistan. i don't see us blowing up iran,north korea, and other places that have widely known terrorist gorups. We are bing terrorist. Why because the definiton of being a terrorist- One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

adj.
Of or relating to terrorism.

Terrorism- The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.

Terrorizing- To fill or overpower with terror; terrify.
To coerce by intimidation or fear

Terror- Intense, overpowering fear. See Synonyms at fear.
One that instills intense fear;The ability to instill intense fear.

To these Iraqi people we are being terrorist, why because we are striking fear in their hearts. it does not matter if we mean to are not. the fact is we are. sure you aren't going to see it as terrorism, because you are obviously not being the one afraid to go outside for fear of being killed by invaders in their country.

does being able to leaf through a dictionary give you some sort of rush that makes you feel smart, and not ignorant? the war in iraq is called the war in iraq because WE'RE WARRING IN IRAQ. it's that simple. it's not one country. the media says the war in iraq, can you imagine someone saying "the war in afghanistan and iraq"? no. the countries you named have widely known terrorist groups, but they haven't delivered a hostile action to the united states. the dictionary definition doesn't apply here all the time. TERRORISM IS AN ATTACK DIRECTED AT MALICIOUSLY HARMING CIVILIANS, ONES THAT AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.[/b] remember september eleventh? even someone as shallow as you must remember it.
 
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sure you aren't going to see it as terrorism, because you are obviously not being the one afraid to go outside for fear of being killed by invaders in their country.


Um, invaders? Isn't that part of any wars? It's not like we're pillaging or plundering villages or murdering them in their sleeps or flying airplanes into their homes. It's a war, people are supposed to be afraid to go outside of their homes.
 
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post May 9 2004, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ May 8 2004, 11:21 PM)
does being able to leaf through a dictionary give you some sort of rush that makes you feel smart, and not ignorant? the war in iraq is called the war in iraq because WE'RE WARRING IN IRAQ. it's that simple. it's not one country. the media says the war in iraq, can you imagine someone saying "the war in afghanistan and iraq"? no. the countries you named have widely known terrorist groups, but they haven't delivered a hostile action to the united states. the dictionary definition doesn't apply here all the time. TERRORISM IS AN ATTACK DIRECTED AT MALICIOUSLY HARMING CIVILIANS, ONES THAT AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.[/b] remember september eleventh? even someone as shallow as you must remember it.

Yeah it does give me a rush. How am i ignorant?? Do you want me to give you the definition of that also, and shallow. I would be glad to. the dictionary definiton does apply. Why are you getting so upset. You don't know how tolisten to others opinions without getting upset. That will not get you any where in life. you need to learn how to get over thibngs and not be narrow minded. Maybe you should read a little more, it helps.

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Um, invaders? Isn't that part of any wars? It's not like we're pillaging or plundering villages or murdering them in their sleeps or flying airplanes into their homes. It's a war, people are supposed to be afraid to go outside of their homes.


yeah that doesn't negate what i'm saying though. I just saying i would consider us terrorist because they are striking fear in my hearts if i were in iraq
 
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yeah that doesn't negate what i'm saying though. I just saying i would consider us terrorist because they are striking fear in my hearts if i were in iraq


And I'm saying that it's a war, people are supposed to be fearful. I bet though if US troops withdraw today, right now, this second, the Iraqis wouldn't be any less fearful (if not more) only because they don't know which dictator will take control and make them suffer all over again. They're waging a political war amongst themselves.
 
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 8 2004, 11:17 PM)
get it through my head. i must be mistaken if this war hasn't been called not only the war on terrorism but the war in iraq?? so obviously we are fighting one country, two if you add afghanistan. i don't see us blowing up iran,north korea, and other places that have widely known terrorist gorups. We are bing terrorist. Why because the definiton of being a terrorist- One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

adj.
Of or relating to terrorism.

Terrorism- The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.

Terrorizing- To fill or overpower with terror; terrify.
To coerce by intimidation or fear

Terror- Intense, overpowering fear. See Synonyms at fear.
One that instills intense fear;The ability to instill intense fear.

To these Iraqi people we are being terrorist, why because we are striking fear in their hearts. it does not matter if we mean to or not. the fact is we are. sure you aren't going to see it as terrorism, because you are obviously not being the one afraid to go outside for fear of being killed by invaders in their country.



You do not have to kill someone to be a terrorist.

wow. okay, the guy in the horror movie is a terrorist because he is filling me with intense fear. we are not being terrorists. our goal is not to hurt innocent civilians or strike fear in their hearts. our goal is to topple a tyrannic regime and replace it with a democracy that will not violate human rights, or have weapons of mass destruction.
 
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Don't quote me or respond to this, k? but I'm not really for the war, I'm with onenonly101 on this one...
 
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Apr 21 2004, 3:14 PM)
What? You would have them killed? I bolded it because I know there are Americans dying right now because they're fighting the war. Now, realize those people went voluntarily. I mean, would you rather us [b]ignore[/i] what was happening there, and let them attack us like that? Something needed to be done. Futhermore, war is a horrible thing, but it needs to be done. Come on - you wouldn't be sitting there, happily in your little chair with a computer right now if it wasn't for wars. Unless of course, you don't live in the United States, but that's besides the point. Those people are fighting for our country, so that people that live in it (probably yourself) don't have to cower in fear, paranoid that someone's going to attack us on our homeland.

innoccent people in iraq, kuwait and a lot of middle eastern areas die. so it's no just the americans it's everyone.
i dont' really blame you for writting, i agree with you, it's just that there are other people besides americans that are dying for a reason that isn't their fault. and we can't control it!
 
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post May 9 2004, 04:27 PM
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for all you guys defending the American government's decision to go to war, would you have proteted if they had decided not to go to war?
 

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