war in iraq Options

[tkproduce]

usually when a senior member of an organization is killed or captured, it's a blow to the moral of that organization. if the important members are killed, the group would have a harder time functioning. there would be some small suicide bombings and stuff, but no real well planned attacks like 9/11.

I'm not expecting an attack on American soil anytime soon.

It's quite likely that many of these "senior" members are living within the States. These people are more likley to be a threat.

[Spirited Away]

Boy, are we just full of pessimism. Then what do you anti-war debaters suggest that we do? Be sitting ducks? Nicely say "Hey! we're going to surrender our freedom to you killers because we know that nothing we do could save us from inevitable doom!", or more realistically "You guys are just too good for us, we're gonna give up without even trying".

Well, I'm being sarcastic of course, but that seems like what you anti-war people are saying. If that's not the case then what's the course of action do you suggest?

[tkproduce]

Boy, are we just full of pessimism. Then what do you anti-war debaters suggest that we do? Be sitting ducks? Nicely say "Hey! we're going to surrender our freedom to you killers because we know that nothing we do could save us from inevitable doom!", or more realistically "You guys are just too good for us, we're gonna give up without even trying".

Well, I'm being sarcastic of course, but that seems like what you anti-war people are saying. If that's not the case then what's the course of action do you suggest?

maybe these people need help rather than bombs dropped in their back garden

[onenonly101]

There not much you can do when poeple do not want you there.

Btw, I am not pro-war, I am not anti-war.

[*Kathleen*]

maybe these people need help rather than bombs dropped in their back garden

Aww...let's spend money on these terrorists that want to hurt us by assigning therapists and psychiatrists to them, right? Yeah - I'm sure that's exactly what the victims of 9/11 want us to do.

[tkproduce]

Aww...let's spend money on these terrorists that want to hurt us by assigning therapists and psychiatrists to them, right? Yeah - I'm sure that's exactly what the victims of 9/11 want us to do.

Jesus Christ did not lay vengeance upon the people who harmed him, but instead, forgave them. He made no protest against the unfair judgement of his crucification and did not punish the ones that were involved in it. If we all truly believe in Jesus, then we shall forgive the ones who have caused harm to others without giving into our evil emotions of hatred and anger. Vengeance and retaliation are sins that God wishes us not to perform. If we pray everyday to God, then our pleas would be heard and he shall bring us peace on Earth.

[onenonly101]

usually when a senior member of an organization is killed or captured, it's a blow to the moral of that organization. if the important members are killed, the group would have a harder time functioning. there would be some small suicide bombings and stuff, but no real well planned attacks like 9/11.

I'm not expecting an attack on American soil anytime soon.

It is a blow, but just like succession, there will always be someone to take over there place. There will always be well-planned attacks such as 9/11 as long as there are people willing to carry them out. Attacks as 9/11 have gone on in other countries for decades!

Saying you are not expectinig an attack is what got us in this perdicament in the first place. That is why things like terrorist attacks happen, because people have their heads stuck into clouds, believing no one could take them out and what happens 9/11

[*kryogenix*]

It is a blow, but just like succession, there will always be someone to take over there place. There will always be well-planned attacks such as 9/11 as long as there are people willing to carry them out. Attacks as 9/11 have gone on in other countries for decades!

Saying you are not expectinig an attack is what got us in this perdicament in the first place. That is why things like terrorist attacks happen, because people have their heads stuck into clouds, believing no one could take them out and what happens 9/11

i am not expecting an attack because there has been a lot of extra security. even terrorists have stated that they are having a hard time attacking because of the extra security. i'm not saying that there is a zero chance of a terrorist attack, i'm just confident that one can be stopped before considerable damage is done.

as to your first statement, they won't be able to operate if we take away their tools. we're freezing terrorist assets and capturing or killing members. we have them on the run, they are running out of safe spots.

[onenonly101]

We are freezing the assests of those we know of. Terrorist like i said before are some of the most intelligent poeple in this world, do you not think they have thought of this. Alqueda is still running, as much as we want to believe it isn't. There are also thousands of other terrorist groups that are still going strong. Just because they haven't attacked now doesn't mean they aren't there. It may be depressing but they will always be out there waiting for a chance to kill us.

[BeyondElite]

I DON'T NOT SUPPORT WAR!!!!!
GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.! and Iraq

[*Kathleen*]

Jesus Christ did not lay vengeance upon the people who harmed him, but instead, forgave them. He made no protest against the unfair judgement of his crucification and did not punish the ones that were involved in it. If we all truly believe in Jesus, then we shall forgive the ones who have caused harm to others without giving into our evil emotions of hatred and anger. Vengeance and retaliation are sins that God wishes us not to perform. If we pray everyday to God, then our pleas would be heard and he shall bring us peace on Earth.

We can't base everything off of one religion, you know. What happened to seperation of church and state? Huh?

[onenonly101]

there is separation of church and state but he is using Jesus Christ as an example.

[tkproduce]

We can't base everything off of one religion, you know. What happened to seperation of church and state? Huh?

By the way, I'm not Christian. I think I'm half Buddhist half Shinto or something like that...

[*Kathleen*]

there is separation of church and state but he is using Jesus Christ as an example.

Yes, he was saying let's follow Jesus...if the government was to do that, they'd be breaking seperation of church and state.

By the way, I'm not Christian. I think I'm half Buddhist half Shinto or something like that...

Haha I love how you debate for something you don't believe in.

[Spirited Away]

Jesus Christ did not lay vengeance upon the people who harmed him, but instead, forgave them.

Not all people in this great nation believe in Jesus Christ, therefore using His name to call off a war is... not the best way to look at it. However, it does make sense to say that vengeance of any kind is bad, but saying so is not so realistic either.

we shall forgive the ones who have caused harm to others without giving into our evil emotions of hatred and anger.

And let everyone else stomp over us. Lets be a great nation of charity and give all our money to help third world countries. Lets hold hands and sing "It's a small World after all".

Well hey, I'm willing to hold hands and sing with a neighbor so long as he's not not holding a knife to my throat/gun to my head.

If we pray everyday to God, then our pleas would be heard and he shall bring us peace on Earth.

Like in any happy relationship, it takes two people who are in love for the match to work. If one person has doubts about the other because he/she is sneaking off at night to rendez vous with someone... the relationship is not going to work. Sure, we could cry peace and turn our head and let the person continue to cheat, but in the end we'd end up hurt.

In our case of the Iraqi War, we just can not trust the country that has relations with the terrorists who murdered our people (they're cheaters). If we cry peace, how long could it last? Would the group who are so envious of America leave us alone? Or would they continue to bomb us until it's too late for us to say "we're ready to fight you now".

[piecrust87]

do you think that we should be in iraq right now??
the people don't want our help and our soilders just keep getting killed. i think that we should pull out and stop being the worlds peace makers

[juliar]

there's been a topic on this already...right?

[onenonly101]

look down it say war in Iraq, could someone close this topic

[juliar]

JUSTTTTTTTTTT in case you cant read...
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9422

[DrNick311]

I've already seen what happened with your whole closed scripts thing. Are you just doing this to up your post counts?

P.S. - Stop sending me PMs.

[*CEP*]

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[piecrust87]

nope.
iraqi's dont want help
our soilders are getting killed
bush is a power hungry dictator.

[doglover_76]

i dunt support it at all war is bs <<< sry

[*Kathleen*]

nope.
iraqi's dont want help
our soilders are getting killed
bush is a power hungry dictator.

Maybe you should read the rest of this topic before you say anything like that...do you have any points to back yourself up?

[Spirited Away]

bush is a power hungry dictator.

you and/or your parents and/or your neighbors helped it to be possible for him to be President, either by voting for the representatives that voted for him or by not voting at all. So don't blame this all on our President.