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swearing God's name in vain, should it be banned from public schools?
azn_r4pf4n
post Feb 12 2005, 04:41 PM
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I like to bring this subject up. Here's the question: Should swearing God's name in vain be banned from public schools?

I would say yes, it should be banned. My reason: Because of the fact that I'm trying to be religious and hearing things like, "Oh my ***," can offend me. It's like another way of offending somebody's religion.

Some people might say "No." A possible reason is that they aren't religious. Some teachers in my school don't allow people saying that term, "Oh my ***," because it offends Christianity, and it's the dominant religion in the US. Other teachers will let you say it because they don't care about that term that much.

Another possible reason people won't want to ban it is that it might be a "waste of a rule." How is that a possible reason b/c it's a "waste of a rule"? Consider the facts: Yes, there are a lot of Evangalistic Christian parents, but is there a lot of Evangalistic children? If there isn't, it would make that rule "a waste of a rule."

So what's your opinion?

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post Feb 12 2005, 04:53 PM
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You know, there's "Oh my God" and then there's "Oh my God". The two are different. If I clearly mean my God then it shouldn't offend you. huh.gif
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 12 2005, 1:53 PM)
You know, there's "Oh my God" and then there's "Oh my God". The two are different. If I clearly mean my God then it shouldn't offend you.
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i know, i know. it's just that when people say it, either way, i take it pretty seriously b/c i get easily offended.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:10 PM
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well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.
maybe you could work on your fault of being easily offended, instead of trying to change the way most of the country talks.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 12 2005, 2:10 PM)
well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.
maybe you could work on your fault of being easily offended, instead of trying to change the way most of the country talks.
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true, true... i can't really change the way people say that term, cuz of the fact the Bible says that they're sinners, and they aren't saved... my school doesn't really have that many religious ppl and they say that term a lot. we have rules to not allow people to offend other pplz religion, but yet, there are very few evangilist kids out there who might get offeneded just cuz of that term and there's not much of a rule to stop that term.

it's debatable of whether or not to ban it, but right now, my brain is telling me that idea is like "a waste of a rule."
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:24 PM
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I'd have to agree with Sammi. Just because you're unhappy with something doesn't mean everyone else has to change to satisfy you.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:33 PM
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Yep. Brings back the possible reason why it's unnecessary to have this kind of rule.

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Another possible reason people won't want to ban it is that it might be a "waste of a rule." How is that a possible reason b/c it's a "waste of a rule"? Consider the facts: Yes, there are a lot of Evangalistic Christian parents, but is there a lot of Evangalistic children? If there isn't, it would make that rule "a waste of a rule."


Enough said. Public school children are mostly not that religious when they are in school, so it would be a waste of a rule.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Feb 12 2005, 4:54 PM)
i know, i know. it's just that when people say it, either way, i take it pretty seriously b/c i get easily offended.
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Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you? ermm.gif
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 12 2005, 2:44 PM)
Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you? ermm.gif
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Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:46 PM
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f**k it....not tryin to argue about god again...
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Feb 12 2005, 5:46 PM)
Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"
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I'd give them a huh.gif look and then the look will stay on me for at least a couple hours.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Feb 12 2005, 2:46 PM)
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Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you?

Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"
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oh dang... i should've read carefully. but i don't really ask people of what they mean when they say "Oh my ***."
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 06:04 PM
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well..i think its a really good idea bcus i wince too when i hear it. but seriously.. do you really think kids are gonna just stop saying something they've been saying for like.. forever?
 
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QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Feb 12 2005, 5:56 PM)
oh dang... i should've read carefully. but i don't really ask people of what they mean when they say "Oh my ***."
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Then don't be offended so easily. Not everyone is out to offend Christianity. If you really want to get into it, then ask whoever's bothering you with that statement what he/she means. If the person response with "what does my God/god/Creator has to do with yours?", then you'd know. happy.gif
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 12 2005, 4:10 PM)
well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.
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i really don't understand why people get so offended!?! when we something big happen. like a car accident for example, we are going to say OH MY GOD! (or gosh) it is just something that we all say and it is apart of our language. and i don't think it should be banned from school because that just might createblog controversy with other religions. thus, creating an even bigger problem.

i also think that you should not take personally. when someone says "oh my god" we all know that it is just an expression. we all know that there is only one god in christianity. if not, there would be 378478947982374375074 gods. wink.gif









why can we just all get along? mellow.gif
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:42 PM
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saying stuff like that in a public school should not be banned because the constitution CLEARLY states that church and state should be separated. aaaaaand, ppl have a right to free speech. read the first amendment.

[edit] heh..i reread this..it sounds kinda rude...sry. ^.^;
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:43 PM
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*shrugs* I don't think you would be able to enforce such a rule.... or pass it, for that matter.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(smile4me @ Feb 12 2005, 5:42 PM)
saying stuff like that in a public school should not be banned because the constitution CLEARLY states that church and state should be separated. aaaaaand, ppl have a right to free speech. read the first amendment.
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I know about the 1st amendment. It's just that i pointed the reason to ban b/c it might possibly offend a Christian's religion. It's like saying something offensive towards another person's religion almost. Thats why I think it shouldn't be said in school.

But at the same time, you point out about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, yes, is there to allow you to say anything you want without the government controlling what you say, unless you say something threatening. The term "Oh my ***," isn't threatening, so therefore, you're saying it shouldn't be banned.

My teacher (he's agnognistic) claims it's a figure of speech. I claim it's swearing, no matter how it's used, but I really can't do anything about stopping it.
 
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because thats not a complete violation of freedom of speech. next, lets ban "crap" because it means the same as "shit". besides which, people curse and get away with it anyway. if you banned it, it would be like tying religion and school again, because its a commandment not to say it
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Feb 12 2005, 8:52 PM)
I know about the 1st amendment. It's just that i pointed the reason to ban b/c it might possibly offend a Christian's religion. It's like saying something offensive towards another person's religion almost. Thats why I think it shouldn't be said in school.
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You know, some people are offended that you say or think that your God is the one true God, but that doesn't mean that those people will try to stop you from saying that. They'll debate it, but they won't stop you, or at least, I hope not.

Sammi and Tweeak really said it all.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 10:06 PM
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I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "God" isn't even God's name. Thus, saying "Oh my God" isn't even taking the Lord's name in vain.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 10:29 PM
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I'm not into much religion. I can't really say I have a religion right now, but I really think how the rules are right now are fine. Some teachers (like my Social Studies teacher) don't allow saying, "Oh my God." But then again, some teachers do. I don't know much to say in defense except that people shouldn't feel too offended by people saying, "Oh my God." I guess because I don't know anything about Christanity really affects my thinking, but if someone's overreacting that's their problem. Banning it to all religions makes it hard for people who already have it as a habit. I tried to stop saying "Oh my God" when one of my friends didn't like me saying that, but it's hard to get rid of. It's kind of like a reflex, just a phrase used when you trip or something and people shouldn't be getting offended by something as light as that.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(darkphyre @ Feb 12 2005, 7:06 PM)
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "God" isn't even God's name. Thus, saying "Oh my God" isn't even taking the Lord's name in vain.
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actually, even though it isn't his name, I remember reading this book about how to raise boys and the author was Christian. seems like the author was a former teacher and he heard somebody say "Oh my ***," once in class and the teacher got angry and he pointed out that it was against the 10 commandments (it was a private school)
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 10:38 PM
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Personally, i think there's a limit to what people can say and what they can't. People shouldn't be able to promote violence or state racial comments. However, I don't think a small comment like "Oh my God" should be banned. It might at a religious school, but for the general public, its an everyday remark. No one means anything offensive by saying it. They aren't swearing on God's name. I really don't have a problem with it.

And excuse me very much, it 'offends christianity'???!! You know, Christianity isn't the only religion that believes in God. I don't care if it's the 'dominant' religion or whatever you call it. This is a matter about God, not religion. True, christianity is more popular. But if you look at who believes in God and who doesn't, there are only two kinds of people. Believers and non-believers. Don't be ignorant. I'm Jewish, and i find that offensive.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Frankie_08 @ Feb 12 2005, 6:36 PM)
and i don't think it should be banned from school because that just might createblog controversy with other religions. thus, creating an even bigger problem.
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wow, you're hooked on createblog. wink.gif hehe.

and dude, just they cuss or something doesn't affect you. it's not like they're saying "CHRISTIANITY SUCKS!" they just don't believe it's bad to say it. it shouldn't offend you if someone says oh my god.

and like fae said, it offends us with you saying that your God is the only one we could be referring to.

there's no way you can possibly remove everything that offends someone. deal with it.
 

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