The Never Ending Debate on Prostitution Options

[fameONE]

Why do you keep sayin this country is run by the moral majority? When we all have witnessed in the media all immoral things that have gone on?... If they're so moral, why would they legalize it in Nevada in the first place? C'mon now.

Because this country is run by the moral majority. It doesn't matter that there are immoral things happening because the US hides behind this veil of morality and "doing the right thing.:

[Heathasm]

Okay, and you couldn't just fucken PM that dude so you can give him a fucken blowjob instead of posting that crap in the middle of this?

you contradict yourself, banana. try using PM yourself?

[illriginal]

Because this country is run by the moral majority. It doesn't matter that there are immoral things happening because the US hides behind this veil of morality and "doing the right thing.:

Until they're caught having sex with male prostitutes, doin drugs, goin on sex raids across the country lol.

[xTINAA]

I didn't even SEE the article, because if I had I wouldn't have written "You didn't give me your sources." I didn't see it because you put it in my quote, which I didn't re-read since I had written it.

Why do you keep sayin this country is run by the moral majority? When we all have witnessed in the media all immoral things that have gone on?... If they're so moral, why would they legalize it in Nevada in the first place? C'mon now.

When did I say this country was run by the moral majority? And besides that did you not even read my posts about divorces where I stated that America is full of immoral people that succumb to their temptations? So clearly I know that all these immoral things go on. I also stated in my first post that I am against prostitution morally, but that I am for legalizing it for the wellbeing of the women involved.

That article talks about trafficking and child prostitution, which I believe is a whole other issue that would need to be addressed if prostitution was legalized. Despite what the article stated, it was a little outdated by a few years and I have heard the opposite elsewhere. I think it was from my teacher in a class I took last semester. He talked about it but I don't remember where he got his sources.

[illriginal]

I didn't even SEE the article, because if I had I wouldn't have written "You didn't give me your sources." I didn't see it because you put it in my quote, which I didn't re-read since I had written it.
When did I say this country was run by the moral majority? And besides that did you not even read my posts about divorces where I stated that America is full of immoral people that succumb to their temptations? So clearly I know that all these immoral things go on. I also stated in my first post that I am against prostitution morally, but that I am for legalizing it for the wellbeing of the women involved.

That article talks about trafficking and child prostitution, which I believe is a whole other issue that would need to be addressed if prostitution was legalized. Despite what the article stated, it was a little outdated by a few years and I have heard the opposite elsewhere. I think it was from my teacher in a class I took last semester. He talked about it but I don't remember where he got his sources.

I was speakin to fameone... and there was more than just child prostitution... =\

[xTINAA]

Oh, I know, but I'm saying that it talked about trafficking and child prostitution as a problem that is increased with legalization of prostitution. I should have been more specific.

[fameONE]

I was speakin to fameone... and there was more than just child prostitution... =\

Be not mistakened, there's no way in hell I'd buy into the government's hypocrisy. This whole Eliot Spitzer scandal is yet another reminder of how ass-backwards our government is. Ol' boy's a super-delegate for someone running for the president, and the Clinton campaign team is trying to supress the fire and backlash from the media and general public. But as soon as anything questionable arises; like a proposal for a red light district, or rezoning of strip clubs for placement in suburban areas, or the marketing of sex aids on retail shelves, then morality becomes a big issue.

My gripe is that it needs to be clear across the board of what is morally acceptable and what isn't. And if something goes against the moral code laid down by the state, then it shouldn't be tolerated. If the government can't adhere to its own arguments, then arguing morality is completely pointless and the focal point should be revenue. "

How much can we make off of these hoes working the street corner?"

[illriginal]

Be not mistakened, there's no way in hell I'd buy into the government's hypocrisy. This whole Eliot Spitzer scandal is yet another reminder of how ass-backwards our government is. Ol' boy's a super-delegate for someone running for the president, and the Clinton campaign team is trying to supress the fire and backlash from the media and general public. But as soon as anything questionable arises; like a proposal for a red light district, or rezoning of strip clubs for placement in suburban areas, or the marketing of sex aids on retail shelves, then morality becomes a big issue.

My gripe is that it needs to be clear across the board of what is morally acceptable and what isn't. And if something goes against the moral code laid down by the state, then it shouldn't be tolerated. If the government can't adhere to its own arguments, then arguing morality is completely pointless and the focal point should be revenue. "

How much can we make off of these hoes working the street corner?"

Or how much will we lose in tryin to provide STD/HIV tests for every prostitute and client? And all I'm sayin is, our government doesn't use morality anymore... It used to when the Christians had a strong hold on the Government. But ever since Zionist got a hold of it, all they cared about is making money and wasting off the Middle East and claim their oil for pure profits. =\


To think that it could be possible to get tested for free, every prostitute and client is just crazy. How the hell will the manufacturer of the testing kits, needles, containers, etc... make money? How will clinics make money?

Especially right now how the country is actually going through a recession in the economy. Yes that's right, recession, it's been happening for a long time, it's not just a one time thing, it's a process of the economy dropping at a non stop rate. Which is currently happening.

Legalizing this will do nothin especially with the fact that the article I posted explains how countries that are involved in legalized prostitution are upset because these "brothels" aren't even payin up their tax dollars.

Anyways, I'm bored of this topic.
I'm outs.

[fameONE]

Or how much will we lose in tryin to provide STD/HIV tests for every prostitute and client? And all I'm sayin is, our government doesn't use morality anymore... It used to when the Christians had a strong hold on the Government. But ever since Zionist got a hold of it, all they cared about is making money and wasting off the Middle East and claim their oil for pure profits. =\

One of the biggest reasons why STD's in Japan aren't as big of a threat as the US is because the US is melting pot. Our country has a higher rate of diseases. Granted, the girls here are tested, and required to be clean (fuck that, she's still a nasty hooker), it's an easier process.

I just wish that overall message to the American people wasn't to be the crusader for good, an just be honest, "we want to run this shit."

[summerxromance]

many women are human trafficked into the United States.
They are enslave, often raped many times per day. Most trafficked victims have no advocate. They have no voice. And in the end,most will die from disease, violence, and a broken heart.

[BadCraziness]

If prostitution were legal and more available, there would be less rapes. Besides, people do it anyway already.

Let people do what they want so long as it isn't infringing on anyone else's freedoms.

There is nothing immoral about prostitution. You're not hurting anyone - religion just tells us otherwise. We need to stop putting sex on a big holy post-marital pedestal. Sex is just as basic of an animal function as eating or breathing. Plus it feels pretty f**king incredible and people should have the right to have as much of it as they want, even if it means paying for it. Plus it just so happens that the happiest people I know are all self-proclaimed nymphomaniacs.

As for the "moral majority" bullshit, that same moral majority got us George Bush in the White House. That moral majority is pretty goddamn stupid.

[illriginal]

As for the "moral majority" bullshit, that same moral majority got us George Bush in the White House. That moral majority is pretty goddamn stupid.

No... computerized votes is what brought Bush into the White House.

[BadCraziness]

No... computerized votes is what brought Bush into the White House.

Maybe, but not the second time.
Which is when it gets a little more saddening to acknowledge, considering that we elected the guy TWICE, after we already knew what a crap president he was.

[illriginal]

Maybe, but not the second time.
Which is when it gets a little more saddening to acknowledge, considering that we elected the guy TWICE, after we already knew what a crap president he was.

How?... the Floridian vote was done again... in his favor. Via computerized voting.

[BadCraziness]

How?... the Floridian vote was done again... in his favor. Via computerized voting.

That was with Al Gore, first election. That was where the voter fraud was.

Second election was against John Kerry, and Bush managed to win by a wide majority.

[idkilikepoprocks]

I didn't read the whole topic excuse me.

But I want to say something about the people who vouch for prostitution and think that a woman selling her body is a choice.

Honestly, I don't know any hooker who's happy to get some cash for getting f**ked in all 3 holes of her body by at least 20 men a day. Then again... I don't know any hookers...but that's beside the point.

But wouldn't legalizing prostitution promote these wanton professions over real jobs? Wouldn't this encourage women to demoralize themselves rather than taking the right path and getting some college degree or having an honest woman's job. Maybe I'm an idealist but I seriously doubt prostitution is a woman's dream job, even if they need it for the cash.

Why promote prostitution as a legal profession when these women can be directed to other jobs or even to finish/complete/take up their education. Instead of increasing our hooker population by 10291092109%, let's increase our women-who-work-in-offices-or-some-other-stuff population by 2382983928392%. (please pardon my eloquent way-of-speaking).

And how does prostitution decrease rape? Sure that's a good prediction, but that is if every rapist can afford it. I'm sure not a 100% of rapists are of opulent status and I doubt brothels merchandise 1$ hookers (the great dollar menu?)

Sure legalizing something can help regulate it. But (excuse me if this was a weak or bad analogy) look at fast food chains. It's a completely legal and booming industry and yet many of its owners comply to very poor restrictions/regulations. I'm sure most of you understand what I'm talking about. Heck, thousands of fast food customers are now suing these companies for encouraging obesity, although it's disputably their fault for over-indulging. Can't the same be said about prostitution? Maybe you can regulate prostitution, but not all systems are flawless and there are ways to get around, and if it means spending less money and hagging more customers, I'm sure prostitution tycoons will go for it.

I don't know. I'm not as smart as you guys neither did I read the whole page but it just doesn't sound right to me. Sex is a perfectly beautiful act and prostitution makes it seem so decadent.

[Reidar]

But I want to say something about the people who vouch for prostitution and think that a woman selling her body is a choice.

It is a choice (save for anything not mutually consented that isn't relevant to the debate, because rape and enslavement are unanimously contemptible). However much reluctance is present doesn't change the selective process. That would be equivocating disinclination with actual, constrained subjugation.

With that said, sex is disgusting, and so is prostitution, not least of all ethically reprehensible. But a choice, it certainly is.

If I had it my way, sex would be illegal and we would procreate through chestbursters.

[NoSex]

Honestly, I don't know any hooker who's happy to get some cash for getting f**ked in all 3 holes of her body by at least 20 men a day.

There is one. There are thousands and thousands more.
You do realize that the state of Nevada has legalized prostitution? You do realize that it is a very successful, safe, and profitable institution? You do realize that women voluntarily work there?

But wouldn't legalizing prostitution promote these wanton professions over real jobs?

Real jobs? Real jobs?! Like what?! Being a maid at a shitty motel? It's hard to find good paying jobs if you don't come from old money and want to make something of yourself in a capitalist government. I don't know about you, but I think the social service of providing companionship, care, love, and sexual gratification for another human being is not only a real job, but a great one! That's a job to be proud of!

To use one of your own analogies: backing fries in vats of grease may be a so-called "real" job, but it pays for shit, makes you smell like shit, and treats people like shit. In a capitalist hell-hole like America, it's hard to find a job that's meaningful and can truly help people... prostitution is that job!

Sure legalizing something can help regulate it. But (excuse me if this was a weak or bad analogy) look at fast food chains. It's a completely legal and booming industry and yet many of its owners comply to very poor restrictions/regulations. I'm sure most of you understand what I'm talking about.

Are you that ignorant that you'll seriously try to make this argument? Yes. You truly are.

We all give sex away for free all the time. Why make it illegal to sell it? All that happens when you criminalize something like prostitution is the propagation and creation of crime and black markets. You make real criminals, and you make real victims. Without a regulated and safe environment to work in, women (and often young girls) are taken advantage of by street gangs and pimps looking to exploit their helplessness (and take most of their profits at the same time). They are constantly put into dangerous situations by having no reasonable means to screen their customers. They are often subjected to sexual, mental, and physical abuse - all which often results in a further degradation and depression. They are truly in pain.

If we legalize prostitution, we can eliminate a black market that causes a great deal of harm to a great number of people. We can create a safe-haven for girls who want to continue their work, or support themselves, while helping their communities, and having safe, clean, and consensual fun. We help eliminate the spread of infectious diseases. We provide women with the profits that they deserve from their own work. And, we save lives all at the same time.

Sex is a perfectly beautiful act and prostitution makes it seem so decadent.

Not everyone agrees; but, can we call our country free if we decide, since prostitution makes sex "decadent", that it must be criminalized?

[TAPOUTgirl707]

Hey Ladies/Gentlmen. I am doing a presentation on prostitution. It is a college course so i am expecting somewhat of educated answers. Please explain as to what you believe in, are you for legalizing it or keeping it illegal? I know it is legal in Las Vegas but I live in California. So please let me know how you feel and why. Be totally honest because I am not one and I just need this for reasearch statistics LOL Thank you for reading!!


Hopefully this topic will help as well:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=202071

This post has been edited by DoubleJ: Jul 2 2008, 12:00 AM

[Vyrrei]

It's legal to have sex for free but illegal to pay for it. Seems dumb to me, and I'd go with making it legal. *shrug*

[DoubleJ]

Moved to Debate

Hopefully this will revive this forum.

[TAPOUTgirl707]

Prostitution is illegal because men/women are paying for it.

[Melissa]

^ Yeah, it'll really make a difference with the millions of prostitution topics already out there and what not.

Anyways.

I personally think it should be legalized. That way, the girls get more security, they'll have to pay taxes, everything can be monitored more carefully (since it's legal), and there can be STD/etc prevention. Among a few reasons.

[TAPOUTgirl707]

So people these days are for selling their bodies? Would you do it then since you believe in it?

[manny-the-dino]

i'm against it. i mean i don't see why you would want to "sell yourself."
just have sex! lol