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| *kryogenix* |
 Mar 12 2005, 01:35 PM
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http://www.aim.com/tos/tos.adp
Do not use aim anymore, because their EULA requires you to give up your privacy. QUOTE "...posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium. You waive any right to privacy.'" I've been using gaim, or switch to IRC. |
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Mar 12 2005, 01:41 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Member Posts: 1,575 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,957 |
luckily i stopped updating when they came out with that version where you could pay for expressions, which i know was before feb. 5th.
edit: darn it, i thought it was feb. 5th 2005, not feb. 5th 2004. i've tried trillian, miranda, and odigo, but they all seem... weird. i don't know. i'm going to go try gaim. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Mar 12 2005, 01:49 PM
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Mar 12 2005, 01:52 PM
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 when we speak, we breathe Group: Member Posts: 1,635 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,760 |
Eh, I used trillian for awhile when the .dll files for my aim wouldn't work for the longest time, no matter how many times i removed and reinstalled it.
I haven't tried gaim yet, might do that. I didn't like trillian because you didn't have the option for a profile, and direct connecting was a bit akward. I don't use aim all that much anyway so I'm not too worried. |
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Mar 12 2005, 01:54 PM
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 The Secret Hacker. Group: Member Posts: 1,780 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,712 |
violation of the 4th amendment directly. that amendment is so dead now since this is happening.
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| *kryogenix* |
Mar 12 2005, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Mar 12 2005, 1:54 PM) violation of the 4th amendment directly. that amendment is so dead now since this is happening.  it's not a violation of the 4th amendment because you agree to allow them to read your messages. |
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| *tweeak* |
Mar 12 2005, 03:29 PM
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the last time i downlaoded aim, i got a virus, so im not going to again anyway. i use aim express occasionally though
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Mar 12 2005, 03:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,575 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,957 |
QUOTE(jordanriane @ Mar 12 2005, 10:52 AM) I didn't like trillian because you didn't have the option for a profile that is why i don't like any of the third party instant messengers that i've tried. i think you actually can have a profile, but it displayed weird. you need some plugin that you can only get if you pay for pro. thanks for the link. i'm downloading gaim as i type this. edit: i also reinstalled miranda this morning. i love it's simplicity. if you guys want a minimalistic IM client that works... you should check it out. |
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Mar 12 2005, 03:32 PM
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The Secret Hacker. Group: Member Posts: 1,780 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,712 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 12 2005, 12:24 PM) it's not a violation of the 4th amendment because you agree to allow them to read your messages. oh ya... you agree. nvm. |
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Mar 12 2005, 06:54 PM
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 Wow, i dont know whats going on... Group: Member Posts: 1,439 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,977 |
whats the difference between the debug version, the regular exe and the no-gtk version?
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Mar 12 2005, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,575 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,957 |
i tried gaim, but the font was all funny. i think it has to do that my standard system font is 6pt silkscreen. oh well, i'll work it out.
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Mar 13 2005, 10:55 AM
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 i'm susan Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 |
Whoa... really? I didn't know that. Well I think I just forgot because I kept telling my friends and my sister and they didn't listen. They think I made it up. My sister usually never listens to me in every words I say sigh well only when it's her FAVORITE program. she LOVEESS AIM... eh anyways thanks for the notice again.
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Mar 13 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Mar 12 2005, 6:54 PM) whats the difference between the debug version, the regular exe and the no-gtk version? get the regular exe if you're not sure. debug is if regular exe doesn't work and you want to find out what's wrong, and no-gtk is just gaim without GTK (only get this if you already have GTK installed). |
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Mar 13 2005, 06:05 PM
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 I have no life Group: Member Posts: 1,119 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,675 |
it's not like AIM is gonna really read all of our convos.....right?????
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| *kryogenix* |
Mar 13 2005, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(cocoalightning27 @ Mar 13 2005, 6:05 PM) it's not like AIM is gonna really read all of our convos.....right????? they can read all of your conversations and post it for the public to see. by using aim, you agree to allow them to do that. |
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Mar 13 2005, 07:12 PM
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I have no life Group: Member Posts: 1,119 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,675 |
yes, i know we're allowing them to do that but it's not like they really would do that.....that's like knowing you have porn on your computer, that doesn't mean you HAVE to look at it....
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Mar 13 2005, 09:26 PM
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 baker o.O Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 97,190 |
gaim all the way i just changed over :D
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Mar 13 2005, 10:10 PM
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 t3h koolest guy in cB Group: Member Posts: 2,194 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 513 |
this is why i hate aol...
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Mar 13 2005, 10:38 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Posts: 8,274 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,001 |
lol, i never update any aim version so i dont have to worry about it. thanks for warning me about it because i dont go read the rules they have. i dont even pay for them ..
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| *kryogenix* |
Mar 14 2005, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(aznxboredxperson @ Mar 13 2005, 10:38 PM) lol, i never update any aim version so i dont have to worry about it. thanks for warning me about it because i dont go read the rules they have. i dont even pay for them .. It doesn't matter if you don't update. QUOTE AOL may change the Terms of Service at any time and in its sole discretion. The modified Terms of Service will be effective immediately upon posting and you agree to the new posted Terms of Service by continuing your use of the AIM Products. AOL will provide at least 30-days' notice before any material changes take effect. If you do not agree with the modified Terms of Service, your only remedy is to discontinue using the AIM Products and cancel your registration. Just by using an AIM product (even AIM 1.0), you agree to those terms of service. EDIT: SORRY I MADE A MISTAKE! EVEN WITH Gaim, YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THOSE TERMS! Just by having an AOL account forces you to agree to those terms. However, don't abandandon gaim just yet. http://gaim-encryption.sourceforge.net/ You can encrypt and decrypt IMs with that. |
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Mar 14 2005, 10:46 PM
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 Happy Person Group: Member Posts: 1,729 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,674 |
if someone really needs like private conversations, then they would use another network like IRC or something else. In fact, if there is extremely confidential data being exchanged, they wouldn't even be using public iming programs.
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Mar 15 2005, 01:10 PM
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 jellyfishing, jellyfishing Group: Member Posts: 1,174 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,185 |
Ehh...I don't give out any phone numbers/addresses etc. on AIM anyway. Still...it's a little creepy. I should learn to read those Terms of Service or whatever they're called
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| *kryogenix* |
Mar 15 2005, 06:21 PM
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1776146,00.asp
AOL is now editing their TOS so that AIM conversations can not be read. |
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Mar 15 2005, 06:24 PM
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 original member. Group: Official Member Posts: 4,825 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,460 |
aim is effed it. it always freezes up on me and crap like that.
but the problem with NOT using aim is that EVERYBODY uses aim. so...yea. |
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Mar 15 2005, 06:57 PM
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I have no life Group: Member Posts: 1,119 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,675 |
yea see, they never read our conversations anyway....
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