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 Apr 6 2005, 05:52 PM
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 dripping destruction  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929  |
no, she was a vegatable translates to, all parts of her brian in which consious though happened were dead, and there was no hope she would recover.
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Apr 6 2005, 06:16 PM
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 Do you miss your little girl? Group: Member Posts: 181 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 68,851 |
If she was breathing on her own, how was she a vegetable?
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Apr 6 2005, 06:17 PM
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 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(sm0kinm0nky @ Apr 6 2005, 5:27 PM) uh, i know she died but who is she really  just a regular person. she isnt famous just a person who was in that state for 15 years. and her decision of getting the plug pulled off her feeding tube gained esposure thats how she became a famous trial and also the fact her case was brought to the supreme court. QUOTE(wounded @ Apr 6 2005, 6:16 PM) If she was breathing on her own, how was she a vegetable? she was a vegetable because she was brain dead also she couldnt think for herself. QUOTE(wounded @ Apr 6 2005, 5:39 PM) This was the dumbest thing ever. The court should have let her live. Murderers. but they kept her alive so you also play God there. she wouldnt be able to live on her own as in like feeding herself she was basically dead. but her soul was still on earth. it has been 15 years but she hasnt been progressing. that is a long time i wouldnt want my wife to struggle or lie on a bed that long. why would you keep someone alive who is on her way to death ? arent you playing God i mean her parents couldnt let go . they just couldnt i know its unfair but come on 15 years on a bed? seriousli thats way too long |
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Apr 6 2005, 06:22 PM
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 i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
QUOTE(lilphoenix @ Apr 6 2005, 3:27 PM) Removing the tube is just as watching her die. Slowly die. Isn't that more inhumane than just pulling the plug, so that she does not have to 'survive' that long? Remove the tube and let her parents watch her slowly waste away? It's almost torture, just pull the plug... okay. i am saying this one last time people. IT WAS THE ONLY FREAKIN LEGAL WAY TO LET HER DIE |
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Apr 6 2005, 06:24 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Apr 6 2005, 6:22 PM) okay. i am saying this one last time people. IT WAS THE ONLY FREAKIN LEGAL WAY TO LET HER DIE did you read the last page i told her that you would get mad lol. |
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Apr 6 2005, 07:40 PM
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i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 6 2005, 4:24 PM) did you read the last page i told her that you would get mad lol. haha yeah =) but i still felt that she needed to be told 
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Apr 6 2005, 08:17 PM
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The ads on this page are messed up... Top 10 signs of a cheat? Appetite suppresent? Barf Diet? And pet food wtf...
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Apr 6 2005, 08:41 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
^ lol yea the ads are chosen from selected words on the page. since we are talking about feeding tubes and stuff.
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Apr 7 2005, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(lilphoenix @ Apr 6 2005, 2:27 PM) Removing the tube is just as watching her die. Slowly die. Isn't that more inhumane than just pulling the plug, so that she does not have to 'survive' that long? Remove the tube and let her parents watch her slowly waste away? It's almost torture, just pull the plug... ...pull the plug? what exactly do you mean by that? why let her live if she had no hope of recovery?! just so she could sit there and have the family pretend she was still "alive"? it's not free to keep someone on life support you know. and to wounded: it's not murder... at all. this is what would have happened NAUTRALLY. |
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Apr 8 2005, 05:53 PM
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 Grrrrrrr Group: Member Posts: 801 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 123,696 |
with the whole thing i think the parents shoulda had custody of her but if her husband said that she didnt want to be like that then they should have listened to her husband. They were mostly tormenting her on the whole thing. People at my school were putting a death pool on her. Some kid won like 100 bucks on it. I know i wouldnt want to be like that when i die. The thing that gets me now was that they were arguing on where to bury her. I dont get people these days
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Apr 8 2005, 11:56 PM
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i am amazing Group: Member Posts: 15 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 120,073 |
just like to add that water and food are a nessecary means of survival...its not right to deprive anyone of it for any reason... if someones on a respirator for like a couple weeks and their not waking up...y know what, i say pull the plug. but she wasnt. she was awak and alert. and im sorry u had to get mad at me.just what i belive to be right.
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Apr 9 2005, 12:30 AM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(prayurnotheonly1 @ Apr 8 2005, 11:56 PM) just like to add that water and food are a nessecary means of survival...its not right to deprive anyone of it for any reason... if someones on a respirator for like a couple weeks and their not waking up...y know what, i say pull the plug. but she wasnt. she was awak and alert. and im sorry u had to get mad at me.just what i belive to be right. she was not awake or alert. |
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Apr 9 2005, 03:31 AM
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 白人看不懂 !!!! Group: Member Posts: 3,838 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,824 |
QUOTE(prayurnotheonly1 @ Apr 8 2005, 9:56 PM) just like to add that water and food are a nessecary means of survival...its not right to deprive anyone of it for any reason... if someones on a respirator for like a couple weeks and their not waking up...y know what, i say pull the plug. but she wasnt. she was awak and alert. and im sorry u had to get mad at me.just what i belive to be right. hahahah 'awake and alert'. ....Isn't this thread just startin' to piss you off? Buncha people who don't read the thread repeat what other people say? |
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Apr 9 2005, 08:42 AM
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 WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
QUOTE(wounded @ Apr 6 2005, 4:06 PM) What's the difference between Schiavo and the Pope? Why did he get a feeding tube when she didn't? He was near death any ways. 1 - the Pope wasn't braindead, he just couldn't feed himself. they knew he was in the process of dying. 2 - was the Pope on a feeding tube for FIFTEEN YEARS without a chance of recovering? no. they knew he was gonna die. so they kept him on a feeding tube for the time when he was still alive to make him more comfortable when he died. |
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Apr 9 2005, 09:31 AM
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 Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
QUOTE So does this case mean that abortions should be legal? Cos, 'she was a vegatable' translates to : she wasn't being productive. Well, a unborn baby isn't doing anything either... well.. for a start abortions are and should be legal, yes, but thats another issue and the difference is that the unborn child has the potential to be 'productive'. terri shiavo didnt. she was brain dead, and wasnt going to recover. |
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Apr 15 2005, 07:25 PM
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 ticktock. Group: Member Posts: 1,138 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 118,235 |
I dont know where I stand on this topic.
She has been that way for 15 years. Basically she is dead already; since she has no thoughts; no movement; barely anything. She is basically. .the living dead maybe? But I also think that the husband only wants to pull the tube so he can get her out of his life and doesnt have to bother with her anymore. I dont know. 
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Jun 16 2005, 03:40 PM
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UPDATE:
Terri Schiavo's autopsy revealed that she was, in fact, in a PVS. The autopsy also said there was no way she could have recovered from her brain damage. Plus, she didn't die from starvation, rather, she died from dehydration. Many of the claims made by the doctor who performed Schiavo's align with those of her ex-husband's. |
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Jun 16 2005, 05:42 PM
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 My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
QUOTE(x3__iGiVEup @ Apr 15 2005, 6:25 PM) I dont know where I stand on this topic. She has been that way for 15 years. Basically she is dead already; since she has no thoughts; no movement; barely anything. She is basically. .the living dead maybe? But I also think that the husband only wants to pull the tube so he can get her out of his life and doesnt have to bother with her anymore. I dont know. Yup. I would've done the same thing. Although she can't think or feel or do anything by herself, why not just pull the tube and let her die? FIFTEEN YEARS. How long were her parents planning to pay the medical bills!? I actually thought though, that the person paying to keep her alive should have the decision, but I think her husband made a better choice. 
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Jun 16 2005, 09:34 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
15 years is a long time to hold a false hope.
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Jul 8 2005, 04:26 PM
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"Gov. Jeb Bush has declared an end to the state’s inquiry into Terri Schiavo’s collapse 15 years ago, after Florida’s state attorney said there was no evidence that criminal activity was involved.
Bush had asked State Attorney Bernie McCabe to investigate Schiavo’s case after her autopsy last month. He said he now considers the state’s involvement with the matter finished. “Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed,” Bush said in a two-sentence letter." [1] Perhaps our esteemed politicians will finally stop politicizing Terri's death, and let her rest in peace. What a misuse--or should I say abuse?--of public funds and public office. |
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Jul 8 2005, 07:57 PM
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I don't think it should have been her husbands decision to pull the feeding tube or not.
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Jul 8 2005, 11:17 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(alvin_ward155 @ Jul 8 2005, 7:57 PM) I don't think it should have been her husbands decision to pull the feeding tube or not. quit with the one sentence replies. and who, might i ask, should have the decision? her legal medical counsel who makes decisions for he when she's in coma or otherwise cannot make her decisions? oh yea, that's right. that's what her husband was |
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Jul 8 2005, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(alvin_ward155 @ Jul 8 2005, 7:57 PM) I don't think it should have been her husbands decision to pull the feeding tube or not. and you think it should have been her parents? is that because you don't think it should have been pulled? well, what a quinky dink, that's what her parents thought too. in case you didn't know, it's federal law that your spouse makes those types of decisions. |
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