Grand Theft Auto, Promoting Bad Behavior? Options

[fameONE]

Yes, but I can't see why people with a conscience won't stay away from things like GTA. Seriously, don't they have any eye for morality?

If thats your argument, then it seems as if there's a subtle implication thats its wrong for a responsible adult to play the game

[pandamonium]

GTA is a very violent game and i think its way too late to stop anything. we already have so many things influencing little children these days. all of us are already used to violence and sex it runs through our minds.

When was the last time you were upset about a murder on the news? it just crosses your mind like anything else. its not important to you because it didnt happen to you and that is all that matters.

If GTA is not sold to minors that is good but there is still so much we can do to prevent them from hearing or doing things like violence. Then we would have t enforce not seeing rated R movies even with an adult, or strictly banning websites..

so Not selling GTA to minors is taking a stand but its not big enough of a stand to me.

[fameONE]

GTA is a very violent game and i think its way too late to stop anything. we already have so many things influencing little children these days. all of us are already used to violence and sex it runs through our minds.

When was the last time you were upset about a murder on the news? it just crosses your mind like anything else. its not important to you because it didnt happen to you and that is all that matters.

If GTA is not sold to minors that is good but there is still so much we can do to prevent them from hearing or doing things like violence. Then we would have t enforce not seeing rated R movies even with an adult, or strictly banning websites..

so Not selling GTA to minors is taking a stand but its not big enough of a stand to me.

Thats a valiant effort on your part to take a stand, but the fact of the matter is that our society is in the crapper and to blame GTA for the violent and hateful crimes of the world would be ridiculous. I said it once and I'll say it again, it's up to the parents. If my mother told me today that she didn't want me playing GTA, I wouldn't play it.

Violent games have been around and violent games adapt and change to suit the times. From Doom to Mortal Kombat to Shinobi, games are violent and they'll influence children. Think about how many kids tried to imitate Scorpion and say "Get over here," after hours upon hours of Mortal Kombat, which was then rated MA-13. No it's not right, but history is simply repeating itself. No one should dare be so hypocritical to say that the level of violence and degeneration in GTA is the lone cause of this outrageous behavior imitated by children. If the children really are everyone's primary concern, then f#ck the game, we should be discussing how parents have failed the youth of our generation. We should be discussing how people in power set bad examples for the youth.

Blaming Rockstar Games for corrupting the youth with violence and sex would just be a cop out. I'm done.

[CreateBlob]

If thats your argument, then it seems as if there's a subtle implication thats its wrong for a responsible adult to play the game

Well, that is my implication. >_<

A child kills someone. An adult kills someone. Both have done something wrong, no?

Thats a valiant effort on your part to take a stand, but the fact of the matter is that our society is in the crapper and to blame GTA for the violent and hateful crimes of the world would be ridiculous. I said it once and I'll say it again, it's up to the parents. If my mother told me today that she didn't want me playing GTA, I wouldn't play it.

But aren't there possibilities of children getting such media by secretly importing it in? If there was no porn at all, for example, children would never get it. If there was porn on some subtle, distant website, children could sneak into it without their parents knowing.
One does not know what sex is until they are exposed to it (..via sex-ed, perhaps).

[pandamonium]

But aren't there possibilities of children getting such media by secretly importing it in? If there was no porn at all, for example, children would never get it. If there was porn on some subtle, distant website, children could sneak into it without their parents knowing.
One does not know what sex is until they are exposed to it (..via sex-ed, perhaps).

yea your right if a child is exposed then it turns dangerous.. but like what i said. if you do things like that you would have to ban everything. like if we didnt want our future generation of kids doing the same stuff that we do now, we have to be strict and ban everything from internet, video games, tv, and or even books. i dont really agree that its the parents fault cause kids are curious and the happen to soak information. the only thing by preventing bad knowledge to leak out like that is by taking a strict ban..

im not saying that we should start now by not watching tv but i dont think we will ever reach that point. the only way of letting our kids now know about sex drugs and violence is by being strict and i doubt that will happen. if it does then think about it we can probably reach a utopia of no violence.

[CreateBlob]

Good point .. in regards to my (..espionage, my abandoned username) point, if there was only Mario on games, we'd be triplejumping on people and tackling them, and swinging guinea pigs around by the tail.

Corruption is human nature, yes .. but idealistically, can't we all just get a resolution to stop the CURRENT events of new corruptions?

[Levy2k6]

i dont think games affect anyone, its more of ur surrondings.. like i a nice "catholic" school boy could play the game and enjoy it but still go back to praying afterwards.

if a guy in the ghetto were to play the game, he probaly learn a trick or two that he could use in the real world to shoot someone but idk. its just me.

[CreateBlob]

^Of course, there are the exceptions. People who have gone through strict discipline will be able to control themselves. Still, though, there's always the breaking point - we're definitely not impervious and perfect.

[Paradox of Life]

People who have gone through strict discipline will be able to control themselves.

I guess it's about time I posted. I read through most the posts already. I think he has a point ^. My own opinion is that I don't think GTA is causing most crimes, but it is kind of encouraging them. My dad (who knew nothing of the game GTA) heard on the news that someone confessed something about GTA encouraging him to do crimes. I think that it's the own kid's choice and it takes discipline. It may also be the parents' responsibility as well.

[CreateBlob]

And also the developers' responsibility. Then again, maybe their parents impressed it on them... =D So it all depends on the parents, but the children have a choice, and hopefully, will distinguish what is right without their parents telling them.

[fameONE]

So, let me get this straight, people...

Making GTA harder to access than porn or banishing it altogether will put an end to violence and degeneration? Ok, riiiiight, and North Korea isn't armed with nukes, right?

We already established that it's the parent's fault but to go and bash the publishers who put food on their on tables would be a bit unfair. You make your own choices. If you're weak minded or impressionable enough as an adult to make a decision based on a video game fantasy, then you deserve the full extent of whatever punishment is trhown your way. Playing GTA doesn't make you a bad person, it just needs to be kept out of reach when it comes to kids.

Besides, any publicity on such a controversial game does nothing but boost sales.

[Levy2k6]

stopping the game or blaming him or her isn't gonna stop the violence.. nothing will stop it. we live in america (or i do).. everybody is pissed and ticked and there is always someone read to blow... you never know. one day a guy might go into school and say "i cant take this anymore, die mofo's!" and bust out with guns and stuff and kill everyone... and he might have never played the game. lol. but yeah.

stopping things like this doesn't stop it but more of "prevent" like...

hybrid cars.. they arent gonna stop pollution but there helping prevent enviromental stuff.. get what i mean?

[fameONE]

stopping the game or blaming him or her isn't gonna stop the violence.. nothing will stop it. we live in america (or i do).. everybody is pissed and ticked and there is always someone read to blow... you never know. one day a guy might go into school and say "i cant take this anymore, die mofo's!" and bust out with guns and stuff and kill everyone... and he might have never played the game. lol. but yeah.

stopping things like this doesn't stop it but more of "prevent" like...

hybrid cars.. they arent gonna stop pollution but there helping prevent enviromental stuff.. get what i mean?

Agreed. I see where you're coming from.

[*nightmare4taki*]

I play this game all the time, and never have I felt the rage to go around killing people. I would actually have a tough time killing a person that is trying to kill me. Anyway people have been killing people since the beginning of time. Using GTA is just an excuse. People think they can use a video game or music as an excuse because they believe they can manipulate the justice system and are not man enough to own up to their own actions. Why are people over seas killing each other everyday, answer me that. They dont play Grand Theft Auto because they live it in reality.

[smile4me]

oo..we had this discussion in gov class...

i dont think it promotes bad behavior.

and like levy said, bad behavior is always going to be here.
violence isn't going to rise because of a video game. its like saying violence will occur because people listen to the news and imitate it.

this is like when people were trying to ban comic books. they said comic books promoted cannabalism because there were monsters that ate ppl. T_T

side note: dont u get caught at the end? so like...doesnt that just say that good always conquers evil..?

[fameONE]

oo..we had this discussion in gov class...

i dont think it promotes bad behavior.

and like levy said, bad behavior is always going to be here.
violence isn't going to rise because of a video game. its like saying violence will occur because people listen to the news and imitate it.

this is like when people were trying to ban comic books. they said comic books promoted cannabalism because there were monsters that ate ppl. T_T

side note: dont u get caught at the end? so like...doesnt that just say that good always conquers evil..?

No. At the end of each GTA, it ends happily in some way or another.

In Grand Theft Auto III (the first release of GTA on a next generation system), the main character sought vengeance from his Cartel running ex who kidnapped his current "love interest." In the end, he saves her but she talks to much and a gunshot is heard and you no longer hear her voice. It adds to the allusion that he killed her. To me, thats blatant violence, however, it's also a twisted from of 'mindfuck' comedy intended for the few people that have the personality to understand (like me).

In GTA Vice City, the main character Tommy Vercetti was being used as a pawn to hadnle a drug deal for a mafia don. He was set up, he loses the drugs and the cash and the entire game has a Scarface/Miami Vice-like storyline in which Tommy is trying to get the money back while taking over the city. Along the way, he makes friends, loses friends and ends up killing the mafia don. The end of the movie gives you the satisfaction of Scarface (if it ended happily, that is).

In GTA San Andreas, its like playing a 2 week movie. This is the most raunchy, violent, and off the wall GTA by far, but sadly, most of the unfortunate events in the game actually happen. At the end, there was a distinct serving up of justice and everyone is happy.

Not like you really cared but I thought I'd share that...

For all of you opposers of the game, stop your mitchin' and boanin'. Complain about Hollywood before you complain about the videogame industry. Complain about failed American parenthood before you complain about Hollywood. And do something about yourself before you fix your lips to judge others.

[medic]

This falls in the same line of the whole gansta rap thread.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91312

There will always be people that take things to the extreme, it does not matter if its a Video Game or a song. If a game should be censored so that these things don’t happen, then the songs, movies, and TV shows should fall in the same place.

[Paradox of Life]

This falls in the same line of the whole gansta rap thread.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91312

There will always be people that take things to the extreme, it does not matter if its a Video Game or a song. If a game should be censored so that these things don’t happen, then the songs, movies, and TV shows should fall in the same place.

Um, I made this before that thread was made. Look at the date.

[medic]

I was referring to it, so don’t worry about it. Plus your the one that posted this link in the other thread about GTA. So I just put what I said there in here because a mod would have closed the other one, is that ok with you?

[sadolakced acid]

can't you have virtual sex in GTA san andreas?

[*RockizLife*]

Simple solution. Parents: Buy your kid a Nintendo

[pandamonium]

Simple solution. Parents: Buy your kid a Nintendo

ahahhah funny.

[fameONE]

The difference between gangsta rap in the traditional sense and gangsta rap now is that before (see: ICE T and MC Eight), it was a tool to inform those of what really goes on. Now, its just an excuse to degrade women while celebrating acts of senseless violence and material things.

In contrast to videogames, the primary function of the game itself is entertainment and that has yet to change. Unlike in the days of Mario and Sonic, the entertainment is evolving into more advanced forms meant to target age groups from toddlers to 'grow folk.'

Rating are in place for a reason. GTA doesn't promote any more bad behavior than The Matrix does with a kid thinking he can run into a building weilding dual Tec9s and murdering every form of life in plain sight.

GTA warrants artistic merit. Don't believe me? Listen to a radio station. Pure genius.

The unfortunate thing about this is that the developers at Rockstar North are not making up what goes on in the game. Our society is being satirized to sadistic extremes in the game. Hookers have been killed in reality, as well as drug lords and crooked cops. Even in the hilarity of in-game radio commercials and pedestrian dialogue, the satire oozes through your speakers.

There's always more to the surface than meets the eye. Instead of griping about how GTA is demoralizing our society, try playing and beating the game. Then find a surgeon to take the foot out of your mouth.

[sadolakced acid]

^
or, you could just play GTA to have virtual sex.

[sw33t_rouge]

it teaches you how to drive