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Grand Theft Auto, Promoting Bad Behavior? |
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![]() Happy Person ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,729 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,674 ![]() |
People who play it have no honor left... after killing thousands of people, blood is but a red substance and a human life is but a thing to rid the earth of. They'll kill people for being "disrespectful" when really they do not say, shake their hand while entering a party.
Discipline is part self control, and killing someone for not shaking your hand is NOT self control. Discipline to complete the a mission in a game to kill does not promote real life self control. |
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Not necessarily. GTA doesn't require that you kill people for not shaking your hand. Video games can teach things like patience and discipline that are valuable in real life, just as self-defense courses do. The only advantage self-defense courses have over video games is that they make you physically more fit.
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
i agree. the self- dicipline required to move your thumbs so you run over a woman crossing the street is a good thing to learn.
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![]() yeah. i'm kevin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,399 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,782 ![]() |
pretty volient game lol i dont like it anyway, parents should be more responsible and see what games not to get
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I agree ^. Violence is only a factor in this whole "grow up to kill" era. I still think that if parents are supporting and reasonable, the game will be that.. a game.
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Stalking Createblog... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 155 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,300 ![]() |
It's not really whether or not the game is violent .. it's whether it's corrupt or not. The Zelda series, for example, are all about Link being the moral, good guy, where the monsters are the bad guys. In GTA, the police are the bad guys, and the prostitutes and gangs are the good guys. That's what I don't like about a lot of today's video games ..
Super Mario! Woot. >_< |
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no... i enjoy hitiing prostitutes...
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Yes, I think it does promote bad behavior. Yes with all the car jakcings and the blood and..yeah =/ Sad thing is.. I know people in the 3rd grade playing it. <=[
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*kryogenix* |
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QUOTE(espionage @ Mar 5 2005, 2:19 AM) It's not really whether or not the game is violent .. it's whether it's corrupt or not. The Zelda series, for example, are all about Link being the moral, good guy, where the monsters are the bad guys. In GTA, the police are the bad guys, and the prostitutes and gangs are the good guys. That's what I don't like about a lot of today's video games .. Super Mario! Woot. >_< Great observation. You'll see less objection to a plumber stomping on goombas then to mass hijackings and drive by shootings. QUOTE Not necessarily. GTA doesn't require that you kill people for not shaking your hand. Video games can teach things like patience and discipline that are valuable in real life, just as self-defense courses do. The only advantage self-defense courses have over video games is that they make you physically more fit. The only way you can learn discipline from GTA is by avoiding crime. Which defeats the purpose of the game. |
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![]() John 3:16 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 107 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,029 ![]() |
I play GTA all the time and theres nothing wrong with me. I hope haha But I think it depends on the maturity level of the person thats playing it. I no not to go out in the street and just randomly shoot people to get there money. Its just a video game to take up spare time.
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i think gta should be banned or at least have a higher rating on it. theres a lot of bad things in it (picking up hookers, stealing cars, guns, curses, i heard theres a dildo in the police station shower) young kids shouldnt get this game cause it has too much bad stuff in it. the parents of the kids should check it out before letting thier kid play it. and ive heard of second graders playing it =`[
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People get over it, its a god damn video game. The video game doesnt make people do that stuff, its the stupid kids who thinks its cool. And tell me how many people have stolen cars beat people up shoot them blow the up with rocket launchers? none
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I don't know if it breeds violence so much as it breeds entertainment for me when my shift is over at night.
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yerp! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 ![]() |
You can't stop children from stuff that actually happens in the real world. I mean yeah, it's not every where you can hop into a car and drive off at 100 mph, but cursing, graffiti, drive-by shootings, and gangs are real.
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it may pomote bad behaviour but its the player choice to do them in the real world...
when is this one set 80's? |
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![]() i'm susan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 ![]() |
Well I know I want to play those kinds of games cause when I'm in a bad/anger mood, I just want to hurt someone so bad. Just random people ya know? So instead of doing that, I play violence games to relieve my anger haha. I just play it just to relieve my anger. Hm, chlidren under 12. Wow, if they play it, I think they will play it and like learn from it. And when they grow up, I think they will really become one. I don't know, I still don't think they should banned that. It's a great game to relieve your angers.
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yerp! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 ![]() |
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Pornography is X rated and not intended for anyone under the age of 18 but those under 18 still find ways to access it. If GTA was truly restricted to the extremes of porn, it wouldn't be much of a difference. Kids would still get their hands on it.
I'm an avid RockstarGames (developer of the Grand Theft Auto series) and it was a shock to me at 11 years old when GTA was just a 16bit aerial view of violence. For anyone to blame their own wrongdoings on a game is a cop out unless they have some delusional issues. I don't want my 12 year old little cousin playing GTA and saying things like, "Grove Street Families, nigga!" because our family has worked too hard to get away from that environment. I've seen people killed, I've been aroun gangs, I've witnessed drug dealing and for it to be playfully emulated by kids evokes disgusts. With that said, it is entertainment just like Menace 2 Society, Boyz N Da Hood, Blood In Blood Out, X Rated Movies, Scarface, The Godfather, etc. The responsibility to restrict this lies within the hands of the parents. With parental restriction, an end can be put to this problem. I fear two things; God and my mama. If my mother told me to stop listening to Public Enemy because it causes me to think bitterly about the government, then I'd stop. (My mom wouldn't do this because she loves Chuck D, but you get the point). GTA is intended for adults. Bottom line. |
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kryogenix,
What is your issue with the game? No disrespect but you seem like you're firmly against not only GTA, but all leud, violent and ill behavior in video games in general. That's fine and I totally support your right to put it all on blast even though I don't completly agree with your views. If this is the case, how do you feel about movies? How do you feel abou Schwarzeneggar going through clip after clip and killing senselessly? How do you feel about violence and bigotry in hiphop (not all hiphop is like that, might I add) or the clear and obvious marketing of whores in all things pop? Is this a stand for justice of morality or is this an attack solely on GTA? |
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 18 2005, 4:09 PM) kryogenix, What is your issue with the game? No disrespect but you seem like you're firmly against not only GTA, but all leud, violent and ill behavior in video games in general. That's fine and I totally support your right to put it all on blast even though I don't completly agree with your views. If this is the case, how do you feel about movies? How do you feel abou Schwarzeneggar going through clip after clip and killing senselessly? How do you feel about violence and bigotry in hiphop (not all hiphop is like that, might I add) or the clear and obvious marketing of whores in all things pop? Is this a stand for justice of morality or is this an attack solely on GTA? I am not so much against GTA as I am against bad parenting. Parents should not let kids under the mature age play GTA, because it is a bad influence to those who can't tell that "it's just a game." Violent movies are bad too, but videogames are interactive. I'm firmly against most of the hip-hop and pop music videos and lyrics we see today. |
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 20 2005, 6:31 PM) I am not so much against GTA as I am against bad parenting. Parents should not let kids under the mature age play GTA, because it is a bad influence to those who can't tell that "it's just a game." Violent movies are bad too, but videogames are interactive. I'm firmly against most of the hip-hop and pop music videos and lyrics we see today. Parents need to do their jobs. Agreed. As much as I love hiphop as a genre, I think pop culture is in the sh!tter. My sister idolizes this teen sensation named JoJo. Thats fine, but the singer is 13 years old, sings songs about infidelity and live-in boyfriends, and is marketed like a whore. Not cool. Along with that, everyone's all over 50 Cent and his 'beefs.' Beef killed Tupac Shakur and Christopher Wallace, I'm not impressed so I do agree with you there. Back to Grand Theft Auto... It's not just a game, it's interactive entertainment for adults and if parents make the mistake of letting their children play the game, then they're the ones who deserve punishment. |
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Unofficial Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 75 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 114,420 ![]() |
QUOTE I'm firmly against most of the hip-hop and pop music videos and lyrics we see today. I fully agree with that. QUOTE What is your issue with the game? No disrespect but you seem like you're firmly against not only GTA, but all leud, violent and ill behavior in video games in general. That's fine and I totally support your right to put it all on blast even though I don't completly agree with your views. If this is the case, how do you feel about movies? How do you feel abou Schwarzeneggar going through clip after clip and killing senselessly? How do you feel about violence and bigotry in hiphop (not all hiphop is like that, might I add) or the clear and obvious marketing of whores in all things pop? Is this a stand for justice of morality or is this an attack solely on GTA? Regarding Schwarzeneggar and the other various violent movies, it depends. Grand Theft Auto has ill and violent behavior, whereas, for example, Saving Private Ryan only has violent behavior. Okay, maybe the bad guys in Terminator have ill behavior, but they set the impression that those bad guys are .. bad guys. The point of Terminator can be interpreted as war always being bad, because the machines were built as power-hungry - programmed by their makers; the good guys have to use violence to fight back, because there's not much you can do when you're looking at the end of a gun. Thus, there is violence in the story of Terminator. I think we all need to observe the degree of violence in media; or actually, the immorality as a whole in media. Police have to shoot people sometimes, right? Are parents letting their children witness gruesome shootings, though? No. If a child were in Iraq, would it set a good impression to let him or her see everyday attacks (A small point here: a documentary, for example, should be allowed. Although it may contain disgusting images or other things, as long as it's on the right side, it's history.)? Of course not. But it's inevitable - the terrorists, extremists, gangsters, and whatnot are purposely causing such things. They kill out of cold blood, and develop horrible torture methods. If a game or whatever-media-type allowed the viewer to be on the "bad guy" side, then it definitely goes against morality rules. Of course, media regarding soldiers in wars, police in car chases, and anti-terroists should be avoided for the sake of impression. Again, our parents wouldn't want us to witness a shooting right outside the window, right? Even if we think that we won't be affected and influenced to becoming like an antagonist, we obtain that information. Someone who knows what a prostitute is, or knows one, for example, would naturally be less pure than someone who doesn't. As humans, we sympathize. Putting us on the wrong side makes us influenced; people employed by Hitler never knew they were on the bad side. |
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CreateBlob, you still have to recognize that it's up to the parents to shelter their children from a game like GTA.
Conversely, it's all about where and how you grew up. Grand Theft Auto does little to shock me because I've seen a lot of the situations in real life. |
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QUOTE CreateBlob, you still have to recognize that it's up to the parents to shelter their children from a game like GTA. Yes, but I can't see why people with a conscience won't stay away from things like GTA. Seriously, don't they have any eye for morality? |
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haha my cousin (12) bought it and his parents too it away cos he shot a guy in the head for a bike (san andreas)
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