Grand Theft Auto, Promoting Bad Behavior? Options

[AngryBaby]

well thats stupid, barely anybody is even gonna try that hard to get.
its funny because they have these big posters up in our mall still "Grand theft auto! now for Xbox" lol

[ComradeRed]

Teaches you to drive wild and crazy like a maniac. Gees. I can do that without the video game thank you very much.

You'd be surprised. I learned the basics of driving from Grand Theft Auto and I haven't hit anyone in days.

In GTA, the police are the bad guys, and the prostitutes and gangs are the good guys.

Oh come on, in Call of Duty, the police are the bad guys. What did you think the SS (English: "State Police") were? When the police start shooting at you when you haven't harmed any one else, they would be classified as the bad guys.

The only way you can learn discipline from GTA is by avoiding crime. Which defeats the purpose of the game.

Some missions involve trying over and over again to win. A truly undisciplined person would go guns-ablazing in every situation, which would lead to failure. Discipline is a means, not an ends. It can be used for good as well as evil. You do have to have a lot of discipline... you're just not channeling it for good.

[sikdragon]

The innocent really believe killing to be easier than it really is. If a person can kill another person with no remorse it stems from other psychological problems. A game cannot cause these problems unless that game or movie is the sole influence on a child of a really young age. It is up to the parents to decide what content is suitable for their children. The state has no right to decide was is allowed and not allowed inside the homes of it's citizens. The constitution is VERY clear on that issue. Most people who have GTA 3, Vice City, or San Andreas got it from an of age person who deemed it appropriate. Most stores already check for I.D. or proof that someone is over 17.

[Paradox of Life]

The innocent really believe killing to be easier than it really is. If a person can kill another person with no remorse it stems from other psychological problems. A game cannot cause these problems unless that game or movie is the sole influence on a child of a really young age.

I believed that was true, but when you think about it, how many people have these psychological problems? So many. And for a few of the murderers out there, there was no detection of these problems in their childhood, I'd imagine. They might have been thinking about it, but after playing Grand Theft Auto, they could reconsider because the game made it seem acceptable. And because of this game, pushing them over the edge, they could just say 'Oh what the hell, I'll just go on a killing spree'.

[sikdragon]

Well look at Dahmer's life. He killed and tortured animals in his childhood. Most murderers have intent. Meaning that they have particular reasons in mind. Psychotic people have an altered state of reality in which a video game might seem real, but the case would be 1 out of 1,000,000,000. People who are affected by the game short of being raised by it already have psychological problems exhibited or not.

[sadolakced acid]

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if video games don't train you to kill, why does the US army use video games to train soldiers to kill?

[technicolour]

My friends dad is a goverment agent and he owns like every shoot-'em-up game for playstation2. He says they are for practice.

[sikdragon]

To kill and to murder are two completely different things. Video games train your eye hand coordination and timing. They don't train your mind to be ready for the realness of death.

[KINGP.I.M.P.]

i like the game

[Paradox of Life]

i like the game

Please don't spam. And please read the posts and arguments before posting, thanks.

[sadolakced acid]

To kill and to murder are two completely different things. Video games train your eye hand coordination and timing. They don't train your mind to be ready for the realness of death.

actually they do.

the military calls it desentitization training.

you can go to a target range to learn to shoot, or a hogan's alley to learn to shoot in real life, to to kill, the US government uses a video game.

it looks quite like battlefield 1942. the military says that once you've killed someone onscreen for 1000 times, it's a lot easier to pull the trigger on a real person when the time comes.

[technicolour]

It probably is easier to kill someone for real after doing in digitally on the comp.

Murder and this type of killing are 2 different things, yes.

[ComradeRed]

But at the same time, people who kill in video games might have their sadistic urges filled by that, and thus disinclined to hurt people in real life.

The military isn't comparable; soldiers kill out of a sense of duty, something that isn't sated by a video game.

People who are sadistic could be.

[turbulent]

those are true words and all that

but why else would you play video games lol
thats the only reason i play.. but still i think grad theft auto could definitely tone it down on the viloence and all that

[sikdragon]

Yeah i think the major cities could tone it down on the violence and crime, that doesnt mean it will. GTA is just a mere representation of what's going on in all of those cities. Why isn't there more talk about manhunt. That game is sadistic and twisted. You sneak behind people and suffocate them with plastic bags and watch them fall lifeless. That game would be training for sadistic murderers.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

Yeah i think the major cities could tone it down on the violence and crime, that doesnt mean it will. GTA is just a mere representation of what's going on in all of those cities. Why isn't there more talk about manhunt. That game is sadistic and twisted. You sneak behind people and suffocate them with plastic bags and watch them fall lifeless. That game would be training for sadistic murderers.

Manhunt isn't as popular as GTA and therefore won't be looked into as much. Not to mention, Manhunt is more fiction while GTA is pretty much what you said, a representation of what's going on in the city.

[ComradeRed]

In the hood, yo

[fameONE]

Most of you bastards get on my nerves. Sikdragon, I've imagined you as Officer Tenpenny on more than one occassion. My sadistic urges have been satisfied so I'm less tempted to play with my grandfather's desert eagle and make a trip up to Michigan.

:joking:

[EddieV]

I agree that M-rated video games shouldn't be sold to minors, although I don't feel as if I'm going to go out and kill anybody, I somewhat feel affected by some games as well, the fun of the game sometimes takes you away from reality, I know what's real and what's not, but sometimes when young children play these sort of games, they can't separate fantasy, from reality. This is why we have a rating system that must be enforced. Parents should also take into consideration and watch their children once in a while to see what they are playing and should avoid buying M-rated games to minors.

[starlette]

GTA San Andreas has been pulled from the shelves. Its now Adults Only. Because some guy won a lawsuit saying that playing GTA:SA two weeks straight is what made him go jack a car, jack a cops gun, kil some cops, and jack a cop car. and theres boobies somewhere I think. They no longer carry it at blockbuster and a lot of other places can no longer carry it on their shelves. Thats stupid to me...just like the supersize lady.

[*mipadi*]

GTA San Andreas has been pulled from the shelves.  Its now Adults Only.  Because some guy won a lawsuit saying that playing GTA:SA two weeks straight is what made him go jack a car, jack a cops gun, kil some cops, and jack a cop car.  and theres boobies somewhere I think.  They no longer carry it at blockbuster and a lot of other places can no longer carry it on their shelves.  Thats stupid to me...just like the supersize lady.

Not quite. Let me explain:

Fact #1: San Andreas is now rated AO.
True.

Fact #2: Some guy won a lawsuit in which he said that GTA3: SA was responsible for his commission of crimes.
Possibly true? I haven't heard anything about it, and the claim is dubious to me, but for the purposes of my next point, let's assume it's true.

Cause and Effect: Fact #2 caused Fact #1.
Incorrect. GTA3: SA was given an AO rating for sexual content, not as the result of any litigation.

[starlette]

Not quite. Let me explain:

Fact #1: San Andreas is now rated AO.
True.

Fact #2: Some guy won a lawsuit in which he said that GTA3: SA was responsible for his commission of crimes.
Possibly true? I haven't heard anything about it, and the claim is dubious to me, but for the purposes of my next point, let's assume it's true.

Cause and Effect: Fact #2 caused Fact #1.
Incorrect. GTA3: SA was given an AO rating for sexual content, not as the result of any litigation.

oh hmm..I knew it had to do with the sex thing too, but they were tellin us at work that it was some crazy dude and his killing spree. but what do they know, they fired me for using coupons. I stand corrected.