White history month?, racism Options

[illumineering]

^ Yes, you are correct. American History does cover everything you mentioned and more.

It is also important to give every ethnic group and culture that contributed to the development of this nation an opportunity to be heard. Every non-white contributor should be able to recall historical perspectives from their own point-of-view. For example, the events of WW II will be recalled differently from the eyes of the Jewish and Nazi communities. Native American views of manifest destiny are not the same as the dominant culture. Recognizing these different views creates an opportunity to view the world through more than one set of eyes.

[Joss-eh-lime]

i meant that there shouldnt be any difference in people based on the color of their skin. thats what races do. they divide people into specific groups. eh...

there will always be races, so why am i worrying about it...?

its true. i wish everyone could just be equal and undivided

but each people with the same ethnicity usually have more in common [the way they act or dress] and that draws them to eachother. its not really the color of there skin but their culture and whatnot. most of the time

but back to white history month---i think black history month is fine. its never going to be overly celebrated or anything=/

[*tweeak*]

Seriously. And if we're doing this because of discrimination, white people are discriminated against too..if you want proof, look for my "nobody likes white people" topic in the lounge.

Also, I brought up the Jewish thing a FREEEAKING long time ago because people were accusing me of not knowing what it's like to be a minority cause I'm white.

WE DO NOT STUDY WHITE PEOPLE ALL YEAR. We study Americans, and only in US History. It's not surprising there's a lot of white people in American history. However, in high school, you only study US History one year. And there is still a lot of minorities included in that. You don't think we study the Civil War, and all the events and causes for it? You don't think we study slavery? You don't think we study the Mexican American War? You don't think we study America's bombings of Hiroshima? We study everything in America's history, white or not, and without special months. Seriously, what more do you learn than you didn't other months during Black History Month? We get assigned a report on a famous black person, since we had studied important African-American events earlier in the year.

So if one more person tells me that I learn about white people all year and we don't include any minorities except during Black History Month, I'll inform Fae and she'll warn you for not reading through the thread, because that is not true.

very well put, my dear.

Also, I might add that many "white" cultures were at one point descriminated against as well. The Irish, for example, were shunned for years. I'm about 1/4 Irish, but I don't expect a special month because my ancestors were mistreated, now do I?

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ I feel the exact same way, as most people have surely figured out..

[michelina0kudelk...]

Yeah those types of months kind of make ALL white people look bad, these things happened back then, it wasn't the fault of anyone now, there still is racism, but it is towards all races. So why are there so many black history holidays or event type things?? What about the white people, whites have done things too you know.

[PinkTrash]

uhh; where I live - Toronto, white is like totally the minority in terms of population & the whites do get attacked a lot racially.. and we have all these other months like Asian heritage month & etc.

I think it is would be only fair to have a white history month - except what would you learn? You do learn about white people all year because north american history is composed of white heroes [not nessecarily their fault as sammy stated]

[becomingAWARE]

i totally like how when people say white pride, or how they like being white, they are automatically in the kkk. [/sarcasm]
yeah, i don't think it's right either. equal oppurtunity!

i really don't like it when on shows with a larger african american cast, there is usually a white idiot, who tries to be black. why can't there be any shows with more of a mixed cast, and there be equal-oppurtune idiots?!

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ Well, that's a pretty bad argument, and I'll point it out, even if you are on my side..

There's a lot of "white shows" with the token "black guy" who always has to act black and all ghetto and stuff too, so there's no use in saying that.

[becomingAWARE]

^ Well, that's a pretty bad argument, and I'll point it out, even if you are on my side..

There's a lot of "white shows" with the token "black guy" who always has to act black and all ghetto and stuff too, so there's no use in saying that.

yes, i suppose you're right. i was just trying to say that i wish there were more shows with more with casting that don't have any steriotyping used in the ethnicity and races of their characters, whether the majority of the cast is black or white. yeah, i realize that there usually is the token black guy, but sometimes no one realizes there is a token white guy either is all i was trying to say. sorry for the lack of clarity ") .

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, TV is about entertainment, and stereotypes make all people laugh, like it or not. The people obviously aren't upset being the "token" ethnicity, so it really shouldn't be a problem to anyone else. They chose the job.

[becomingAWARE]

Well, TV is about entertainment, and stereotypes make all people laugh, like it or not. The people obviously aren't upset being the "token" ethnicity, so it really shouldn't be a problem to anyone else. They chose the job.

yeah, the actors may choose the roles [which i admit i didn't fully think about when i wrote what i did], but that doesn't mean that audiences necessarily choose to like it. i don't find it very funny--but that's just me. oh, and i totally understand what you are saying about the jewish minorities issue; my grandmother was taken to a concentration camp, as were many of her friends and family. the stories she have are haunting. luckily, she and a few friends and family escaped thanks to the americans, but not many were as lucky.

[latinprep12]

Well im latin and yes i agree blacks do get alot of recognation and alot of attention....w/e happened in the past drop it.....im not racist or anything...but whites should get some type of holiday as well...without whites american wouldnt be what it is now...and i mean a congrats hoilday not...a damn president's b.day or little things like groundhog's day...But...even though racist is still alive in some people and places... i think chappelle show is funny as hell when he stereo-types and stuff...

[*salcha*]

^

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okay, take a gander in your hostory book. all it is is white people. the only thing you read about black people is slavery and thomas crowe laws. the only time you read about asia is when whitey bombed them in WWII and again in vietnam. every month is white history month.

eventually, though, cultural plauralism will probably work out, and their will be no need for any history month of any kind.

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ Ok, we've been over that point like, 3859876896 times so please don't ever bring that up again.

And latinprep..how the hell is Groundhog's Day a White holiday.......

[becomingAWARE]

Well im latin and yes i agree blacks do get alot of recognation and alot of attention....w/e happened in the past drop it.....im not racist or anything...but whites should get some type of holiday as well...without whites american wouldnt be what it is now...and i mean a congrats hoilday not...a damn president's b.day or little things like groundhog's day...But...even though racist is still alive in some people and places... i think chappelle show is funny as hell when he stereo-types and stuff...

i don't think all whites should necessarily get a holiday, but instead those who made the country what it is today, or those who made an important mark on our country or world's history. not all whites founded the country, but yes, people who are of that skin color did start this country. there are terrible white people who indeed were racist and enslaved people just because of their race. so, perhaps we shouldn't just celebrate "white" people, but instead those who made a positive impact on this country. and the same goes for every single race that there is -- for example, there are bad black people, there are amazing and innovative black people. this goes to all ethnicities and nationalities...to me, it makes sense just to celebrate those who really helped us out.

but then again, it is also a wonderful thing to celebrate whole cultures, to represent what all of those people suffered and overcame. as latinprep12 said, "w/e happened in the past drop it", and just celebrate americans. pretty much all american families come from different diverse roots, and all all went through alot to become an american. so, let's just stick to that-- the american pride month. as i recall reading in this thread, someone said there was one.

[haleakala1]

I disagree. Those days were only here because they contributed a lot to america. Whites weren't the slaves now were they?

Completely AGREES!!

[Ni99aRican]

I still have marks on my back from when my ancestors were beaten 100 of years ago.

Sure, lets have a white history month. As in this thread, most people will always think of slavery rather than focusing on an actual white history month. I personally don't care if there was a white history month or not, but in my opinion the main emphasis wouldn't just be on the white's contributions to history, rather how they abused African Americans in slavery. True it took a white man to free the slaves but they were never given their reparations to help them get started. A lot of people tend to say that African Americans are getting to much attention for the past, but I think its all in good nature. After slavery ended people tend to forget that black people were not completely free from slavery. Racism still carried on for many years afterwards. If you look at in historical time Black people have only been free for a short period of time in America. So I really don't understand where some of the people are coming from on this issue, cosidering that all the way up into the 60s African Americans were treated harshly. If you look at it from that perspective then that would mean that there are still some Black people alive who were treated inhumane just because the hue of their skin. Don't you think those people deserve something honorable and noble?

As far as slavery though, Black people are just as much to blame. The white people also had help from black tribes who were enemies with other tribes. Like a lot of other people said there is a white history month. in the textbooks at school, and they tend to leave out a lot of major details. For instance, everyone thinks that Abe's main goal in the civil war was to free the slaves. That was not the case, aboloshing slavery was just one of the payoffs of victory. Slavery isn't even covered a whole lot in the textbooks just like everyone is claiming. Even when slavery was at its beginning you only hear about it during the civil war period.

So as far as my opinion I say sure why not let there be a recognizalble month for all the races. Im going to continue to represent mine to the fullest, so you should be able to do the same. =]

Topic Claimed

[sadolakced acid]

I still have marks on my back from when my ancestors were beaten 100 of years ago.

yea, cus if your ancestors weren't beaten 100s of years ago you might now be in rawanda or darfur...

[Ni99aRican]

^Actually I wouldn't exist because I'm half black. =]

[jEllyBeaNs]

WOW!!! well just, to let u kno...african americans only have 1 month to celebrate their historic bacground, and now some white people are saying that we are getting to much recognation. PLEASE!!! the white ppl have every other month to themselves. no one never said that there could not be a white history month. i dont understand why, once blk ppl get something that they are proud of, the white ppl wanna take them down. to me, if all the ppl that agree with ur post are just ignorant. all we have to our selves is 1 month. i think that every race should have a month where they can learn more about themselves. i dont understand y u say that we get everything, cuz right now we haven't gotten anything. i live in arizona, and we just started having blk history month like a couple of years ago. to me it jsut seems that ppl that think that blk ppl get to much attention and recognation are angry that blk ppl are makin it through the hard times that we have been through. were not complaining about how there has never been a black persident!!! does any 1 kno y we dont have a blk president???

like i said before...ppl that agree with u, are jsut as ignorant as you are!!!!!

[jEllyBeaNs]

^ mhm.

just because that happened then doesn't mean it's going on now. african americans are equal to white people. people who had slaves aren't even living now. why use that as an excuse?

umm.....r u serious??!!!! do really think that racism is not going on anymore??!! u must be outta more. u need to look around. oh but wait it, to u, u dont see racism becasue its not happening to u. and oMG do u really actually think that blk ppl are equal to white ppl. r u kidding me?? we wish we wur as equal as others. we r not using an excuse for anything!!! ok aswer this question....wut did blk ppl ever do to white ppl to make them hate us. the only different between a blk person and a white person is there color, and that is the only reason y there was slavery. so u need to get ur facts straight

[Ni99aRican]

^I agree with you, I haven't gotten any special benefits or treatment from all of this.

[*disco infiltrator*]

WHAT THE HELL READ THE f**king THREAD BEFORE YOU POST PLEASE. HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE SAID?!?

Seriously. And if we're doing this because of discrimination, white people are discriminated against too..if you want proof, look for my "nobody likes white people" topic in the lounge.

Also, I brought up the Jewish thing a FREEEAKING long time ago because people were accusing me of not knowing what it's like to be a minority cause I'm white.

WE DO NOT STUDY WHITE PEOPLE ALL YEAR. We study Americans, and only in US History. It's not surprising there's a lot of white people in American history. However, in high school, you only study US History one year. And there is still a lot of minorities included in that. You don't think we study the Civil War, and all the events and causes for it? You don't think we study slavery? You don't think we study the Mexican American War? You don't think we study America's bombings of Hiroshima? We study everything in America's history, white or not, and without special months. Seriously, what more do you learn than you didn't other months during Black History Month? We get assigned a report on a famous black person, since we had studied important African-American events earlier in the year.

So if one more person tells me that I learn about white people all year and we don't include any minorities except during Black History Month, I'll inform Fae and she'll warn you for not reading through the thread, because that is not true.

READ.
I am sure you both will be warned soon.

[Ni99aRican]

Warned for what, this is a debate isn't it? So people will hold different views on everything. I did read through this thread FYI.

[Spirited Away]

Warned for what, this is a debate isn't it? So people will hold different views on everything.  I did read through this thread FYI.

warned for not following the rules of the debate forum; read it. so, consider this your verbal warning for not following the rules of debate. By the way, I had it enough with your topics "claimed". this is your verbal warning for that, too.