ipods, there everywhere Options

[jenniez618]

hmm i have a nano and a mini :)..lol..basically everyone at my school has one and believe it or not, once my friend lost hers and since her name was at the back of her ipod someone gave it back to her.

[EddieV]

The Toshiba Gigabeat S is officially released! WOOT!

[PrincessAda]

Use to but my sister toke it from me..

[*RockizLife*]

I won my iPod free at a concert. They gave out tickets to everyone who attended. It was actually a lot of people, and I had the winning ticket.

[blucheri]

i want an ipod. first i wasn't determined to get one. but now i see how many songs an ipod can hold. and OMFG. i really need an ipod.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

i want an ipod. first i wasn't determined to get one. but now i see how many songs an ipod can hold. and OMFG. i really need an ipod.

... Are you serious?
There are other mp3 players that hold the same amount, and even more.

Also, don't pick out something because it can tell you how many songs it can hold. blah blah 4000 songs. Because those numbers never match. Each song file is made up of a certain amount of megs and they are all different. You can get more than 4000, or less than 4000. Judge memory by the actual tech specs. IE Gigs and megs.

Personally, i Love my Ipod too...'specially with all the equipment I can get for it....i have an FM transmitter in my car

...er....shouldn't this topic be in technology?

Oh Well...back on the topic -------->}{}{} me thinks they are fun and quite handy. OHH OHH OHH!! i like the games on them too ^-^

You know why there are so many accessories? Because the iPod is an empty, featureless piece of crap. Oh wow, you have Radio in your car. Are you trying to imply that you car doesn't have radio in the first place, or that you have one of those radio hook ups for a DAP that connects to your cigarrette port. Because really it doesn't matter, this just proves how featureless and bare it is. Almost everyother mp3 player, whether is has 128, or 60 gigs, comes with radio. Or atleast everyone I've seen. And trust me, i've seen LOTS.

[ThunderEvermore]

... Are you serious?
There are other mp3 players that hold the same amount, and even more.

Also, don't pick out something because it can tell you how many songs it can hold. blah blah 4000 songs. Because those numbers never match. Each song file is made up of a certain amount of megs and they are all different. You can get more than 4000, or less than 4000. Judge memory by the actual tech specs. IE Gigs and megs.
You know why there are so many accessories? Because the iPod is an empty, featureless piece of crap. Oh wow, you have Radio in your car. Are you trying to imply that you car doesn't have radio in the first place, or that you have one of those radio hook ups for a DAP that connects to your cigarrette port. Because really it doesn't matter, this just proves how featureless and bare it is. Almost everyother mp3 player, whether is has 128, or 60 gigs, comes with radio. Or atleast everyone I've seen. And trust me, i've seen LOTS.

Yeah I think she means the FM transmitter that allows you to listen to your iPod through the radio in your car.

[blucheri]

... Are you serious?
There are other mp3 players that hold the same amount, and even more.

Also, don't pick out something because it can tell you how many songs it can hold. blah blah 4000 songs. Because those numbers never match. Each song file is made up of a certain amount of megs and they are all different. You can get more than 4000, or less than 4000. Judge memory by the actual tech specs. IE Gigs and megs.
You know why there are so many accessories? Because the iPod is an empty, featureless piece of crap. Oh wow, you have Radio in your car. Are you trying to imply that you car doesn't have radio in the first place, or that you have one of those radio hook ups for a DAP that connects to your cigarrette port. Because really it doesn't matter, this just proves how featureless and bare it is. Almost everyother mp3 player, whether is has 128, or 60 gigs, comes with radio. Or atleast everyone I've seen. And trust me, i've seen LOTS.

Yes I'm serious!
So what they are mp3 players that hold the same amount. My Mp3 player is one of them. That has eventually let me down. Also there are accessories for the MP3 player. But they're not as good as the ones for the Ipod. come on u have to admit that.

::EDIT::

come to think of it. I want a video ipod. So i can watch my favorite videos on those long ass bus rides to the bronx and what not.. with my friends. that would be real cool.

[*mipadi*]

You know why there are so many accessories? Because the iPod is an empty, featureless piece of crap. Oh wow, you have Radio in your car. Are you trying to imply that you car doesn't have radio in the first place, or that you have one of those radio hook ups for a DAP that connects to your cigarrette port. Because really it doesn't matter, this just proves how featureless and bare it is. Almost everyother mp3 player, whether is has 128, or 60 gigs, comes with radio. Or atleast everyone I've seen. And trust me, i've seen LOTS.

And therein, I think, you have found the reason for the iPod's runaway success. The iPod embodies the minimalism that Apple promotes in almost all it's products. It's a music player. That's it. Unlike other "music players" or "portable media players", it's not a music player with an identity crisis. It does one thing and does it well, and that's play music--and that's why most people buy a music player. The iPod requires the installation of no software beyond iTunes + QuickTime. You import your music into iTunes, and bam! it's trivial to copy that music over to the iPod. It's fast, it's easy, it's minimalist, and it just works. The interface, too, is simple yet elegant in both iTunes and the iPod. And that's exactly what Apple stands for, and why the iPod has been so successful.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

Since when did having a radio make something better? if I wanted to listen to the radio, I wouldn't have nearly 3000 songs on my ipod. Plus, the radio makes me unhappy, because they're absolutely incapable of playing good music consistantly. My ipod, on the otherhand, does everything I want it to musiclally. I can make playlists, take off songs I don't like, or set it on shuffle and be surprised when something I havewn't listened to in a while comes on. Just now Mambo Loco came on and it made me really happy. Why do I need radio for that? How does having a radio make my player any better when I don't want to listen to it in the first place?

[magicfann]

And therein, I think, you have found the reason for the iPod's runaway success. The iPod embodies the minimalism that Apple promotes in almost all it's products. It's a music player. That's it. Unlike other "music players" or "portable media players", it's not a music player with an identity crisis. It does one thing and does it well, and that's play music--and that's why most people buy a music player. The iPod requires the installation of no software beyond iTunes + QuickTime. You import your music into iTunes, and bam! it's trivial to copy that music over to the iPod. It's fast, it's easy, it's minimalist, and it just works. The interface, too, is simple yet elegant in both iTunes and the iPod. And that's exactly what Apple stands for, and why the iPod has been so successful.

apple is full of fags, they only put one button on their mice

[EddieV]

Since when did having a radio make something better? if I wanted to listen to the radio, I wouldn't have nearly 3000 songs on my ipod. Plus, the radio makes me unhappy, because they're absolutely incapable of playing good music consistantly. My ipod, on the otherhand, does everything I want it to musiclally. I can make playlists, take off songs I don't like, or set it on shuffle and be surprised when something I havewn't listened to in a while comes on. Just now Mambo Loco came on and it made me really happy. Why do I need radio for that? How does having a radio make my player any better when I don't want to listen to it in the first place?

Because I listen to Morning Talk Shows, and I easily get tired of my music, also I can find out about more music through the radio.

[*Weird addiction*]

I have a mini Ipod. It's broken, but it still works.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

Because I listen to Morning Talk Shows, and I easily get tired of my music, also I can find out about more music through the radio.

But everything the radio plays, you could have easily found out about months beforehand.

[ThunderEvermore]

But everything the radio plays, you could have easily found out about months beforehand.

How would you know months beforehand to download a brand new artist who was released that much later on the radio, whom youre going to love, but you dont know who they are because theyre NEW.

Yes, you can download any song you want. But sometimes it takes the random radio play, or the CD compilation commercial to jog your memory and realize you need to download that.

I know I like to listen to some classic nineties popular music, but I dont remember 75% of the artists names and half the song names either. I cant even remember the tunes. But with the radio, I can remember, and then proceed to download songs.

[*Kathleen*]

I fear iPods. I trust CDs.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

How would you know months beforehand to download a brand new artist who was released that much later on the radio, whom youre going to love, but you dont know who they are because theyre NEW.

That's why you sample music. Then, you download it, where you'll have it on your ipod and is likely to show up anytime you stick it on shuffle. This creates a radio-like effect, without the awful songs you have no actual interest in listening to.

The radio DOES NOT PLAY NEW music. For example, that KT Tunstall song, "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" is said to be new evertime its played on the radio (which is far too often). I downloaded the song three months beforehand because I thought it had potential, so by the time it got around to the radio, I was already sick of it.

If you have an ipod, you don't need the radio, unless you don't have good enough taste to decide what you like for yourself.

[sadolakced acid]

^ sample, like, 30 seconds, like itunes?

And therein, I think, you have found the reason for the iPod's runaway success. The iPod embodies the minimalism that Apple promotes in almost all it's products. It's a music player. That's it. Unlike other "music players" or "portable media players", it's not a music player with an identity crisis. It does one thing and does it well, and that's play music--and that's why most people buy a music player. The iPod requires the installation of no software beyond iTunes + QuickTime. You import your music into iTunes, and bam! it's trivial to copy that music over to the iPod. It's fast, it's easy, it's minimalist, and it just works. The interface, too, is simple yet elegant in both iTunes and the iPod. And that's exactly what Apple stands for, and why the iPod has been so successful.

okay, so the whole "ipod with video" stuff is still minimalistic?

there are other minimalistic players (they're all "imitating the ipod" apparently).
there are players require absolutely no installation of software.
itunes? the service itself is not a very good deal, and the software? i got rid of it as soon as possible, but from using it on my friends computers, it is no different from the napster player, nor windows media player, nor realplayer in functionality.

i don't hear stories of people accidentally deleting thier entire libraries on other MP3 players, like itunes is apt to do.

the ipod is not succesful because of the things you say. it's sucessful because of brilliant marketing.

[*Phoenixx*]

I looooove my i-pod.

[sadolakced acid]

i loove my modded iriver.

i can play gameboy files, tetris, breakout, packman, etc on it.

i can customize it any way i want.

i get 27 some hours of play time.

and i don't have to use no stinkin itunes.

and the best part? it's what i want.

[EddieV]

That's why you sample music. Then, you download it, where you'll have it on your ipod and is likely to show up anytime you stick it on shuffle. This creates a radio-like effect, without the awful songs you have no actual interest in listening to.

The radio DOES NOT PLAY NEW music. For example, that KT Tunstall song, "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" is said to be new evertime its played on the radio (which is far too often). I downloaded the song three months beforehand because I thought it had potential, so by the time it got around to the radio, I was already sick of it.

If you have an ipod, you don't need the radio, unless you don't have good enough taste to decide what you like for yourself.

The station I listen to is my college radio station though, they mostly play underground hardcore bands, which I can't really search for...

BTW, I'm getting the new Toshiba Gigabeat S on Friday, first MP3 player to be rated higher than the iPod. Highest rated MP3 player at the moment.

[*mipadi*]

okay, so the whole "ipod with video" stuff is still minimalistic?

there are other minimalistic players (they're all "imitating the ipod" apparently).
there are players require absolutely no installation of software.
itunes? the service itself is not a very good deal, and the software? i got rid of it as soon as possible, but from using it on my friends computers, it is no different from the napster player, nor windows media player, nor realplayer in functionality.

i don't hear stories of people accidentally deleting thier entire libraries on other MP3 players, like itunes is apt to do.

the ipod is not succesful because of the things you say. it's sucessful because of brilliant marketing.

I think it's myopic to chalk up the success of the iPod to "brilliant marketing". That's certainly true of the iPod's success now. Apple has branded the iPod so well that when most people think MP3 player, the first thing they think of is the iPod. But it's not as though Apple aggressively marketed the iPod from the beginning, and it's not as if Apple was a "cool company" when the iPod was released. To see my point about the reason for Apple's success with the iPod, you have to look at its history.

In a nutshell, the history begins not with the iPod, but with iTunes. Your analysis of Apple's "brilliant marketing" is based on now, not then. Back then, Mac users were still using OS 9. There was no decent MP3 player software for the Mac OS, so Apple released iTunes for Mac OS 9. After a while, Apple decided to release an MP3 player. Why? I think partly because there was no decent MP3 player that was fully compatible with the Mac OS. Apple saw the need for such a product.

But remember that the iPod was originally only compatible with the Macintosh.

The thing was, the iPod integrated well into Apple's idea of the personal computer. The Windows-Intel-PC side emphasizes a large smattering of hardware and software built around a single Windows-Intel platform. Apple emphasizes an end-to-end model in which the OS is tied directly to the hardware on which it runs. Both have their merits, but that is not the point of this debate.

The point is, iTunes + iPod fit well into the end-to-end solution envisioned by Apple and its customers. It worked well for Mac users: You bought an iPod, plugged it into your computer, and it copied music from your computer onto the iPod via iTunes (which, presumably, the user already had installed, since it came with all Macs). There was no fiddling, no additional software to install, nada, nothing. You plugged it in and it just worked. (Keep in mind this was only a few years after Apple's rather groundbreaking approach with the iMac, which, if you remember the commercials, showed a guy plugging two cables—two!—into the wall, power and Internet, and he was good-to-go.)

But again, recall that OS X was not out yet. Apple was hardly a "cool company", especially on the PC side of things. People didn't listen to Apple just because they were Apple. Most Windows users didn't give a rat's ass about Apple, in fact.

There was something different, something appealing, about the iPod, though. Long story short, Apple released the iPod for Windows! But iTunes for Windows was not yet out, and Windows users were stuck using MusicMatch Jukebox. Apparently there was something appealing about Apple's end-to-end approach, though, because Windows users clamored for iTunes, and Apple acquiesced.

So yes, the iPod is all about branding now, but it wasn't then. Back then, it was all about a simple, end-to-end solution not offered by other MP3 players—a solution that Windows users apparently wanted fairly desperately, else they would've been happy using MM Jukebox or the various Winamp plugins that enabled iPod functionality.

[EddieV]

Most Windows users didn't give a rat's ass about Apple, in fact.

Some still don't...

[sadolakced acid]

yes, but other companies have done that. iriver with thier flash players helped bring about the idea of MP3 players.

in fact, when i think MP3 player, i think of the iriver IFP series.

apple would, without thier marketing, would never have gotten near the sucess they have today.

besides, there's the fact that, regardless of what you think the perception of apple is, they get free marketing for every product they bring out.

apple products are talked about more, reviewed more, etc. than any other tech company's hardware.

i'll be for early windows ipod adopters, the use was anything but simple, and that using a made for windows MP3 player would have been more simple.

i don't know for sure, but it does seem that way.

your simplicity arguement makes sense- for the mac crowd. but for the PC crowd, it doesn't.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

Yes I'm serious!
So what they are mp3 players that hold the same amount. My Mp3 player is one of them. That has eventually let me down. Also there are accessories for the MP3 player. But they're not as good as the ones for the Ipod. come on u have to admit that.

::EDIT::

come to think of it. I want a video ipod. So i can watch my favorite videos on those long ass bus rides to the bronx and what not.. with my friends. that would be real cool.

OH MY f**king GOD. A VIDEO IPOD. NOW I CAN WATCH ALL MY FAVORITE VIDEOS! But wait, don't I have to convert it to either the much less used mpeg-4, or the even much more lessly used propietary h.264 Format? Plus it's all on a freaking 2.5 inch screen! I'LL HAVE NO TROUBLE VIEWING MY FAVORITE VIDEOS ANYMORE!

Yeah, thats the video iPod right there. It wasn't made for video, and never really will be. If you want video, AND want to watch it with your friends, you gotta get a PMP. Pure and simple.

Integerated with iTunes? How does that make it easier than Drag and Drop. You drag it and you drop it. Unlike iTunes, blah blah blah, Only one registered user at a time. And, how did iTunes make the iPod popular? Back then maybe, but now it's all about marketing and ads.

Unlike other "music players" or "portable media players", it's not a music player with an identity crisis.

Ok, PMPS are an a whole different category. You can't put them in your argument. They main function is for Videos. Music is a side category for them.

Another thing, how is it that when you say your iPod is broken, it still works?