Questions to Christians... Options

[Azn Kid from NY]

is this what chrisitans really believe?

so i guess since Ghandi was not a Christian, and did not believe in Jesus, despite all the good he did... is burning in hell RIGHT NOW???

[Spirited Away]

Hell discussion

[im2tall]

despite what you may have been told, not all Christians share the same belief. That's why there are many different types of churches, such as presb. and evang. Religion is a shared belief and the keyword is belief. Not everyone needs to share the same belief in this world and personally I think diversity enriches everyone's experiences and minds.

I believe that Bible is written with every perspectives in mind. This is why the Bible is so poweful; the same phrases can have multiple meanings. I think it's wrong for someone to cite the Bible in order to force other people to follow their personal beliefs. It's meant for people to create their own understanding.

To answer your question, God gave you the power to choose and you should use it with your own discretion. If you want to use Christianity as your guidance, you can but you are not required to do so. I hope this helps..

[xTINAA]

well as a christian, i do believe that if you don't believe that jesus died on the cross for your sins, you will go to hell. no matter if you are the nicest, most giving person in the world. good deeds don't get you into heaven. the only way to go to heaven is to go through him which is by believing he sent his son (jesus) down for you own sake.

[Spirited Away]

Anyway, it isn't in my hands. God gave me free will, and made me choose for myself. I choose partial disbelief (because of Deistic influences), but then I am said to have chosen wrong. It is out of my hands, because I no matter what I choose I am wrong, and must go back to God and do what He tells me to do. This means no free will, which goes against His gift.

So, to believe would be throwing His great Gift back in His face because I'm not choosing for myself, I'm letting Him choose for me.

^^me.

[F_L_I_P]

is this what chrisitans really believe?

so i guess since Ghandi was not a Christian, and did not believe in Jesus,  despite all the good he did... is burning in hell RIGHT NOW???

Actually Ghandi believed in many faiths including Christianity.

-Phil-

[Azn Kid from NY]

no..he was Hindu...certainly did not believe that Jesus was the son of God or anything

[F_L_I_P]

Nope He was mainly Hindu but he believed in Christianity it doesnt mean he was Christian.

-Phil-

[Azn Kid from NY]

ok...Ghandi WAS Hindu... i mean that he certainly did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God...so according to many christians, he goes to hell..and i think thats very f**ked up belief

[sadolakced acid]

commandment....

THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME

i'm sure jesus wouldn't think ghandi was a christian.

[eggnite]

This is the basic belief on how to get to heaven:
Jesus lived a perfect life and died so that you could be forgiven of your sins if you just believe in God and ask him for forgiveness.

If you dont live a perfect life, and you dont believe in God or his offer of forgiveness, than the basic belief is that you will go to hell.

[HongKongDong]

Dang... so I'm going to hell? and my family isnt? Naw not acceptible. Just because of stupid beliefs.... harsh xD

[KissMe2408]

anyway im not a Christian, i heard from friends who are Christians that u go to hell if u dont believe in Christianity...

is this really true....

i mean...What happens to a good, morally sound Non-Christian when they die?

It's not really believing in Christianity. It's believing in Jesus Christ, that he came and died for us, saved us from our sins, and you believing that he is God...and he is the only way to heaven, yes. So even a good, morally sound non-christian would go to hell. Getting to heaven has nothing to do with morals, It's just believing in God and having a personal relationship with him is the only way
basically, god is saying that you don't have to be perfect...and he will forgive you if you sin...and that if you simply accept him into your heart, then you will be with him in heaven forever...

[AZN_DRAGON]

^^ [agree's]

[Spirited Away]

It's not really believing in Christianity. It's believing in Jesus Christ, that he came and died for us, saved us from our sins, and you believing that he is God...and he is the only way to heaven, yes. So even a good, morally sound non-christian would go to hell. Getting to heaven has nothing to do with morals, It's just believing in God and having a personal relationship with him is the only way
basically, god is saying that you don't have to be perfect...and he will forgive you if you sin...and that if you simply accept him into your heart, then you will be with him in heaven forever...

There you go. God will forgive you if you believe in Him.
I do not mean to sound rude, but that sounds like bribery to me: I'll give you my belief (thus my free will) in turn for forgiveness...
Just doesn't make sense for a kind and loving God to ask for that...  it sounds like a business deal.

Okay, here's the thing: You or someone said earlier that people who heard of Jesus and choose not to believe will go to Hell. Well guess what? Christianity then is something that condems people to Hell. Why? If a person has never heard of God, then they'd be an innocent and must still go to Hell because God doesn't (cannot) help those who do not believe in Him (almost like He's helpless to help, thus contradicting His title as an all powerful being). Christianity (more specifically, some Christians rather) then, forces a person to believe, or suffer the consequence of Hell... not much free will there if you ask me.

I understand that good Christians do have good intentions, but ethical, and moral people have good intentions as well. We do not care to be in Heaven, because we believe that if such a place exists, then it would not turn away righteous people. There is no goodness in anything that punish good people or make virtuous people suffer.

Here's how I see it: non-believers chose not to believe because they were given the gift of choice. However, this "gift" is very deceptive. It says you can have a choice to believe or disbelieve, but believe in the wrong thing and you'll be punished for all of eternity. Many non-believers choose to be true to themselves and do what is right with or without religion. God, however, is unforgiving to this kind of attitude since He wants to be loved by everyone.

Question: is not beliving in Jesus a sin?

[Superkid]

Jesus is only one of many great men of history.
Granted, Jesus was a great man of history. That is a fact. But, He is different from all the other great men of history. How many great men of history rose from the dead, calmed a sea, walked on water, raised others from the dead, healed sickness, and forgave sins? There aren't any others that I know of. Do you know of any? These things make Him more than great. They make Him special and unique.
You are right, Jesus was a great man. But let me ask you. If He were great, would He lie? Of course not. If He were great, would He be insane? No. You see, Jesus said He was God (John 1:1,14; 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:8). If He were lying, we shouldn't listen to Him and we couldn't call Him great. If He were insane then we shouldn't listen to Him and again we couldn't call Him great. If He is great, then He must be telling the truth. And He was great, right?
John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Verse 14 says, "and the Word became flesh..." The Word is Jesus. This means that Jesus is God in flesh. If this is so, then He cannot be merely "a great man of history." He would be far more than that.

I am not that bad a person.
Whether or not you feel you are bad or good is not the real issue. The Bible says that all have sinned (Rom. 3:23). If all have sinned, good or bad, then all will suffer the judgment of God. God does not require someone to be pretty good; He requires that he not sin at all. But He knows that you cannot be sinless. That is why He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever would believe in Him would not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16).
The Bible says that our good works are filthy rags before God (Isaiah 64:6). It isn't saying that we might not try to be good, it is saying that whatever good we do, it is not good enough. It also says that there is none who does good (Rom. 3:12). The standard God seeks is perfection. We cannot please God on our own. That is why Jesus died on behalf of sinners. If you want to be good enough, then you must let God see you through the righteousness of Jesus Christ. That is the only goodness that counts to God.

Why did Jesus have to die in order for me to go to heaven?
Because the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23). Though Jesus never sinned (1 Peter. 2:22), He bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Peter. 2:24) and died. He died in our place. Instead of God making us pay for our sins, He did it Himself by becoming one of us.
Two things happen when we sin: one to God and one to ourselves. When we sin, God is offended. Why? Because it is His Law that we are breaking. Also, when we sin we are killed. We don't die right there on the spot, we will face a death that is far more severe. Sin kills us (Rom. 6:23) by causing eternal separation from God (Isaiah 59:2). God hates sin (Hab. 1:13) and sin must be punished. Since we are unable to please God because we are all sinners, He made an offering that is pleasing to Him. That offering was the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. There was no other way. If there were, God would have done it.

What do I do to get saved?
Salvation is a free gift of God (Rom. 6:23). Jesus bore sin in His body (1 Pet. 2:24) and paid the penalty for breaking the Law of God, which is spiritual death (eternal separation from God). If you want salvation, you need to admit that you are a sinner and that you want Jesus to forgive you of your sins. You must acknowledge that there is nothing you can do to earn forgiveness. Pray and ask Him to forgive you. You need to trust in Jesus. Seek Him; He will save you.
Repentance is part of salvation. Once saved, you should stop doing those things that are displeasing to God. He will live in you and give you the ability and desire to resist sin (1 Cor. 10:13). When you are saved, expect to change -- for the better.

[JlIaTMK]

its not that u dnt believe in Christianity, its if you believe that God sent down his son, Jesus to die for our sins, and believing by faith, now thats a Christian, its true that you will got to hell if you arent a christian...[thats what my family keeps teelin me haha]

Uh, excuse me sir but hell is only christianism. People that arent christian dont believe in a heaven or hell. I'm ready for an explanation .

[Superkid]

Uh, excuse me sir but hell is only christianism. People that arent christian dont believe in a heaven or hell. I'm ready for an explanation  .

Just because you do not belive in something does not mean it is not there. Just like 2+2 will always =4. You cannot change the truth. It is absolute. I am not here to try and prove something to you because I can't. I know that my God is a just God and I trust Him to bring salvation to those who want it. I pray that those who do not know Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour will come to a knowledge of the truth through God's grace.

[JlIaTMK]

Just because you do not belive in something does not mean it is not there. Just like 2+2 will always =4. You cannot change the truth. It is absolute. I am not here to try and prove something to you because I can't. I know that my God is a just God and I trust Him to bring salvation to those who want it. I pray that those who do not know Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour will come to a knowledge of the truth through God's grace.

Well, I pray that you would stop mossying around and stop acting like a ignorant little kid because there are so many more religions out there that you should be open minded to. I have a question. If Jesus were still living, do you think he'd want the whole world to revolve around him, or would he accept difference in people, like he fought for in his day. God damn, Christian people over all (not people in particular) piss me off. If your so Christianic, then follow what Jesus fought for. Period.

[Spirited Away]

Just because you do not belive in something does not mean it is not there. Just like 2+2 will always =4. You cannot change the truth. It is absolute. I am not here to try and prove something to you because I can't. I know that my God is a just God and I trust Him to bring salvation to those who want it. I pray that those who do not know Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour will come to a knowledge of the truth through God's grace.

You sound like you would know the answer: Question: is not beliving in Jesus a sin?

[*Weird addiction*]

thats what the christians say,lmao,woot im going to hell then

[JlIaTMK]

thats what the christians say,lmao,woot im going to hell then

???? Hmmm, you cant say that all christians say that. Want an example? Me

[Superkid]

Well, I pray that you would stop mossying around and stop acting like a ignorant little kid because there are so many more religions out there that you should be open minded to. I have a question. If Jesus were still living, do you think he'd want the whole world to revolve around him, or would he accept difference in people, like he fought for in his day. God damn, Christian people over all (not people in particular) piss me off. If your so Christianic, then follow what Jesus fought for. Period. 

Not to be rude but do you even know what Jesus fought for? I don't think you do. Because if you did then you would know how stupid you just sounded. Jesus did'nt fight for diversity in religion. He followed the Torah (which is the Old Testament) to fulfil prophecy to establish the new testament in His blood so that through Him whoever belives in Him might be saved. John 3:16-17. Since He followed the Torah He belived in the very first commandment which is:'You shall have no other gods before Me.' Since the New Testament revolves around Jesus' life and how to be saved through Him then yes I know that if He were on the earth today that He would want the wold to revolve around Him.

uninspiredfae I will let the Bible speak for itself. In Mark 16:16 Jesus says:

16"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

This is Jesus speaking after He has been resurected and the New Testament prophecies have been fulfilled.

[*Weird addiction*]

???? Hmmm, you cant say that all christians say that. Want an example? Me

ok maybe not all but the majority

[sammi rules you]

i don't really see what's so good about being christian, personally. i'm just as good of a kid as any christian kid. i don't drink, i don't do drugs, i'm a virgin, etc..it's not like i'm a bad kid. the thought that christians are held up higher than others' in some peoples' minds just because of their beliefs is absurd to me.

so, think what you want. if i do end up going to hell, oh well. that will actually prove to me that i was wrong in not believing, cause right now i don't believe it exists. :)

(point i'd like to make: hell is in the center of the earth, correct?..is there a hell on other planets? cause..there's living organisms on mars. bacteria and such. that's the dominating species on mars. does god have a heaven and hell for the bacteria there too?...)