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gay marriages, UHHHH!!
chelle
post Mar 21 2004, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Mar 19 2004, 9:44 PM)
I hate them...I am soo not for gayness...it grosses me out like you wouldnt believe to think of them getting married.

what happened to being open minded?? a lie i suppose. figures. i guess you hate me because i am a lesbian. i'm "ungodly" lol. people don't choose to be this way. they can't help it. attraction is attraction. all they know is they aren't attracted to their opposite sex. so the accusation made that "gays" "choose" to be this way is completey ridiculous. do you "choose" to like boys?? no. all you know is you like them. it feels natural to you. well, it feels natural to me to like girls. and i'm so sorry but if you only knew how ignorant you sound. i mean i just can't believe that there are people out there like you. well... actually i can. "it grosses me out like you wouldn't believe to think of 'them' getting married." why the HELL does it gross you out?!? wtf does it have to do with you? i don't understand why you can't just respect that it's "another's" way of life. it has nothing to do with you...

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bah, i've given up on this debate. it repeats itself every 2 pages

i agree
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 06:19 PM
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Man its their life style u dont like it too bad. so i thinks its ok if i say i love lesbians biggrin.gif and im proud
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(chelle @ Mar 21 2004, 11:25 PM)
people don't choose to be this way. they can't help it. attraction is attraction. all they know is they aren't attracted to their opposite sex. so the accusation made that "gays" "choose" to be this way is completey ridiculous. do you "choose" to like boys?? no. all you know is you like them. it feels natural to you. well, it feels natural to me to like girls. and i'm so sorry but if you only knew how ignorant you sound. i mean i just can't believe that there are people out there like you. well... actually i can. "it grosses me out like you wouldn't believe to think of 'them' getting married." why the HELL does it gross you out?!? wtf does it have to do with you? i don't understand why you can't just respect that it's "another's" way of life. it has nothing to do with you... 

I agree. Why on earth would people choose a life that they know is oppressed and not entirely accepted? I mean, life is hard enough as it is.... who'd want to make it harder voluntarily?

And yeah. What does it have to do with you? You feel violated? Honey, just because a boy likes another boy doesn't mean he's gonna try and rape you.

edit: Didn't realize you were a girl. Girls too.
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 3 2004, 8:22 PM)
but should they? should people be commiting crimes even though the law says you can't do it?

so your saying that its not right for them to love who they want...
the president is a.. well i wont say it because i have some respect for him but its funny how he can go around and ruin everyone elses lives but he caint find wepons of mass destruction
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(thedilenquent @ Mar 22 2004, 8:03 PM)
so your saying that its not right for them to love who they want...
the president is a.. well i wont say it because i have some respect for him but its funny how he can go around and ruin everyone elses lives but he caint find wepons of mass destruction

they can love the person. they just can't marry him or her if he/she in a homosexual marriage. i think the president is making my life better, as well as many other's lives better.
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(thedilenquent @ Mar 22 2004, 8:03 PM)
its funny how he can go around and ruin everyone elses lives but he caint find wepons of mass destruction

Hahahahahaa.... very nicely said laugh.gif
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:21 PM
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You are right, it doesn't really effect anybody if tehy get married, and also if they want children their number one option would probably be to adopt, so it would help some people out in the long run :)
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 22 2004, 8:13 PM)
i think the president is making my life better, as well as many other's lives better.

not gonna touch that.


ive said what i thought about it. and they are gonna shack up anyway regardless of the law. they just need that paper to varify their love for each other and not only that they want to feel equal with heterosexual people. they want to share that same union. i cant argue with them for that. i see that theres all the time in the world to tell homosexuals what they can and cant do. i like runing my own life i wouldnt want anyone to interfere with that. the way they live isnt any of our business
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 09:17 PM
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i don't rilly care cuz i'm not gay.. so why should i care?
 
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post Mar 22 2004, 09:55 PM
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yea, even if my friend were gay, it would be uncomfortable at first, but gay people arent really that much different from us. they only have different opinions about people, particularly in their gender. theyll still be the same as us. theyre not a total weird alien type person, and theres no need for discrimination. most straight people take being gay as a very bad thing, as an embarassing thing. and a "gross" thing. whats so "gross" about it? if you dont like it, dont think about it, and youll be fine.
phew.
 
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post Mar 23 2004, 01:31 AM
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I just got into an argument with my dad about this. I was so mad, he's so stubborn. He's kinda opposed to gay marriages
 
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post Mar 23 2004, 12:28 PM
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if 2 people love each other, let them get married.


long ago, most people in US didn't let "colored" people do anything cuz they thought other people were gross or all that bad stuff

now a majority in the US wont let gay people wed.

it just shows how people still havent changed.... so discriminatory.
 
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post Mar 23 2004, 01:00 PM
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my thing is homosexuality has always been apart of history. it use to be accepted in the 1500's the warriors were to have male sexual partners at war and were told that if they did have sex with each other it would give them great strength. but now its shameful and no one wants to talk to gay ppl. i have friends whos own parents disown them because they choose to love diffrently than what society says is right and personally id rather be happy than politically correct
 
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post Mar 23 2004, 10:49 PM
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Ok, once again, Im speaking for someone who has seen both sides of the issue, being someone who is and lives with liberals but is also a Catholic and lives in a mostly conservative town

Gay Marrige is FINE

Most people arent opposed to it, except
1. Hypocritical Bible Beaters
2. Hardcore Right Wing politicians

look, anyone who has a legitimate reason for it not to exist, please step up

so far, the only things people have said to ban it say "Its against the bible"

Since when did the bible become the supreme law of the land?

Seperation of Church and State
Its only in the Bill of Rights

If we start evoking relegious law, then we are no better then the "outlaw" Islamic governmets we are trying to depose
 
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post Mar 23 2004, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(soadturner @ Mar 23 2004, 10:49 PM)
Since when did the bible become the supreme law of the land?

i've been asking myself that same question.... ermm.gif

QUOTE(thedelinquent @ Mar 23 2004, 1:00 PM)
personally id rather be happy than politically correct

that is so true...
kind of like "if loving you is wrong then i don't want to be right" lol biggrin.gif

there's a lot of good comments...
 
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post Mar 28 2004, 10:59 PM
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maybe they were treated wrongly or influenced when they were young and just cant help it. but in tv shows (will and grace) it seems as if gay people have a choice to be gay or straight.
 
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post Mar 28 2004, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(annchovie @ Mar 28 2004, 10:59 PM)
maybe they were treated wrongly or influenced when they were young and just cant help it. but in tv shows (will and grace) it seems as if gay people have a choice to be gay or straight.

How so
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE(Madelein @ Mar 23 2004, 12:28 PM)
if 2 people love each other, let them get married.


long ago, most people in US didn't let "colored" people do anything cuz they thought other people were gross or all that bad stuff

now a majority in the US wont let gay people wed.

it just shows how people still havent changed.... so discriminatory.

you really should read the other posts. this stuff has been mentioned already. i already stated the differences between interracial marriages and homosexual marriages.

soadturner: you should also look back to the previous posts in this thread too if you think the bible is the only reason people are against homosexual marriages.


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my thing is homosexuality has always been apart of history. it use to be accepted in the 1500's the warriors were to have male sexual partners at war and were told that if they did have sex with each other it would give them great strength. but now its shameful and no one wants to talk to gay ppl. i have friends whos own parents disown them because they choose to love diffrently than what society says is right and personally id rather be happy than politically correct


ok, i think the reason it became shameful was because the great strength thing was a lie. i have a question, would you rather be happy than obey the law?
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 09:08 AM
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im for it cuz they are always the minority and its a *free* country and everyone has the right to state their own opinions
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(caffienexkittie @ Mar 29 2004, 9:08 AM)
im for it cuz they are always the minority and its a *free* country and everyone has the right to state their own opinions

so you stick up for the underdog? it's a free country eh? the kkk is in the minority, do you support them? there is a difference between stating opinions and getting married.
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 29 2004, 6:55 AM)
ok, i think the reason it became shameful was because the great strength thing was a lie. i have a question, would you rather be happy than obey the law?

I believe if they had the courage to do something like that, they did have the great strength. Why can't gay people be happy? Legally?

You say you gotta choose between breaking the law and being happy. Kind of leaves no room for the other side, of making marriage legal, and legalizing happiness, doesn't it?
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 06:26 PM
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george w. bush shouldn't have mixed up church with state in his speech of gay marriages. i'm NOT opposed to it because it doesn't apply to me, people have the right to spend their life with who the want, and.. uh.. i have nothing against homosexuals and homosexual relationships.
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Mar 29 2004, 6:18 PM)
I believe if they had the courage to do something like that, they did have the great strength. Why can't gay people be happy? Legally?

You say you gotta choose between breaking the law and being happy. Kind of leaves no room for the other side, of making marriage legal, and legalizing happiness, doesn't it?

why don't we legalize marijuana then? that makes people happy!
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 29 2004, 6:58 PM)
why don't we legalize marijuana then? that makes people happy!

You keep comparing homosexuality with all these horrible things. There's a difference between legalizing something stupid like weed (which IS mind you, legal in some places), and legalizing something like marriage.
 
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post Mar 29 2004, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 29 2004, 6:55 AM)
ok, i think the reason it became shameful was because the great strength thing was a lie. i have a question, would you rather be happy than obey the law?

id rather be happy. if i were gay i wouldnt give... i wouldnt care what people thought of me. if i want to be with someone of the same sex then thats me and my lifestyle. i wouldnt want to be lonely because i wanted to go by what the law says. if i went by the law every day of my life. id be miserable
 

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