science vs religon, which one is important and needed ? Rating Options

[demolished]

i think this is a tricky question if you think about it.

is science important or .. religon ? why tho .. ?

Religon helps make people safer . It help you to become a better person. Religon is mainly about beliefs and how to become a better person . . . the problem is . . did anyone prove that gods existed ? etc ..

Science helps people to be safe. Science tell us what to aware of. Without science, we wouldnt know where we are, what is safe? .. such as planets or universe ..... etc ..


if you think carefully, it could be tricky, you dont know which one is " more " important

do you people understand what i'm saiding ? just think bout it.

tell me what you think ?

[Spirited Away]

Religion has been the reason for many wars and persecution of innocents throughout history, and it persists to be a reason for many kinds of segregation in our contemporary world. So I wouldn't say that it makes people, in general, safer. I would say, however, that religion provides answers for individuals who believe that having those answers can make them a better person or give them a sense of security.

One can be good/bad with or without being involved with religion.

Science is necessary for the advancement, in many aspects, of mankind.

Whether or not science and religion are good/bad depends on how people practice them.

[demolished]

i meant overall , which is important ? science or religon ?

[Spirited Away]

i meant overall , which is important ? science or religon ?

They're both important, overall. If you mean which is more important, then the answer depends on the things that you value.

As in, if you care for your health, comfort, luxury, convenience, then science seems more important. On the other hand, if you care what happens after death (ie your soul), ethics... etc then you'd think religion weights more. However, as I have said before, people can be morally motivated with or without religion.

[sammi rules you]

it depends on the person. religion (yes, there's TWO i's in that word) is more important to some, and science is more important to others. mainly it depends on your upbringing.

you need a dictionary, my dear.

[loveylovely]

i can't choose just one.. they are both equally important.

[darkphyre]

I believe religion played an essential role in getting us to where we are today. However, I believe that many of the religions that exist today are outdated and have a detrimental effect on human development. Science, however, is still more-or-less beneficial.

Thus, I feel that science is generally more beneficial, and thus important, than religion in the present day. However, the creation of new, more up-to-date religions may change this in the future.

[azn_r4pf4n]

50/50. they're both good the same way.

yes thats true about science that it explains about the world and stuff.

religion is basically faith in my opinion.. well im christian.


i believe in science as long as it doesnt go beyond biblical scriptures. so they're both good 50/50.

[Spirited Away]

i believe in science as long as it doesnt go beyond biblical scriptures. so they're both good 50/50.

So if we happen to chance upon a life altering science that goes beyond biblical scripture, then that science is bad? I don't really get it, can you explain?

[azn_r4pf4n]

So if we happen to chance upon a life altering science that goes beyond biblical scripture, then that science is bad? I don't really get it, can you explain?

well. what i mean by that is that i believe in the type of science that doesnt go too far that it somehow contradicts my beliefs, like the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory. I do believe in some sorts of science like technology.

[demolished]

darkphyre Posted on Dec 24 2004, 10:05 PM

I believe religion played an essential role in getting us to where we are today. However, I believe that many of the religions that exist today are outdated and have a detrimental effect on human development. Science, however, is still more-or-less beneficial.

Thus, I feel that science is generally more beneficial, and thus important, than religion in the present day. However, the creation of new, more up-to-date religions may change this in the future.

well, its true what you said about the up-to-date .... Religon affected alot of people already tho .. ? its help people alot and protects others.

[Tung]

i think science is much more important. but why listen to me? im just an asian guy whos an athiest. ahahhaha.

[demolished]

tungtwista Posted on Dec 25 2004, 12:55 AM

i think science is much more important. but why listen to me? im just an asian guy whos an athiest. ahahhaha.

lol, i'm expecting a reasonable answers

[azn_r4pf4n]

i think science is much more important. but why listen to me? im just an asian guy whos an athiest. ahahhaha.

lol, i'm expecting a reasonable answers

sounds like an opinion from the "asian guy whos atheist"

[darkphyre]

darkphyre Posted on Dec 24 2004, 10:05 PM
its help people alot and protects others.

Explain.

[Spirited Away]

well. what i mean by that is that i believe in the type of science that doesnt go too far that it somehow contradicts my beliefs, like the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory. I do believe in some sorts of science like technology.

So if there is science that could advance mankind that might contradict the Bible, then you would disagree with it?

I can't think of any kind of science right now only because I'm no scientist, nor do I possess a great imagination so I cannot say that such science exist. Though, people have said that cloning is playing God, so they are against it. So if you are against cloning because it's "playing God", do you think that it is bad science? How about stem cell research? Is that bad science, too?

Someone said that the religion isn't up-to-date. Let us be more specific and say that the Bible isn't up-to-date, after all it holds the archaic verse that women should be subservient to men.

There were many changes to the Bible since its inception. There were additions and shedding due to mistranslations.. etc. But all in all, the Bible hasn't changed drastically for centuries. Now then, science changes every year, every month, everyday even. I really don't see how anyone can think that science should be kept in check by the Bible, or rather, those who interpret the Bible.

The people who condemned Galileo consisted of quite a few who were many times more intelligent than you and I. Yet, through their insistence, science and knowledge suffered because they interpreted that the Bible states the earth was squared while Galileo discovered things that seemingly contradicted the Bible.

What if one day there is a science that is good or possibly good, but is condemned as bad because people interpreted that the Bible says it's bad. That is what happened with Galileo, so who's to say it won't happen again?

[aznxdreamer]

science is more believable and also, theres proof.

[sadolakced acid]

science doesn't incude text telling it's followers to kill others, to mistreat others, or otherwise declare themselves better.

religion however...

[sammi rules you]

^ i don't think the bible does either. people just interpret it differently.

[xquizit]

^ i don't think the bible does either. people just interpret it differently.

exactly. and some people dislike the koran saying it supports killing and terrorism to achieve their ends but that, too, also depends on how its interpreted.

[demolished]

darkphyre Posted on Dec 25 2004, 3:38 PM

Explain.

okay, example if you belive in buddha, you must follow the eightful prophet. the eightful prophet contain eight useful infomation to be a better person and not to try to suffer more. one of the prophet saids " respect others ", then monk and buddism will also repect others but not all of buddism respect. it still helps out buddism. another example, one of the eightful prophet saids " be calm, dont be angry, or sad. " if your calm, you wont cuase alot of problems to people, if you get angry .. of course your gonna start causing more troubles. another example from the eightful prohpet .. " dont be nervous " .. becuase if your nervous, you cannot concertrate correctly and focus. It also affect you and what you do to other people

and etc ..is it enough reason ?



aznxdreamer Posted on Dec 25 2004, 4:42 PM

science is more believable and also, theres proof.

what about religons? do they do any good and help people ? does it make them them feel safer ?

[darkphyre]

^ i don't think the bible does either. people just interpret it differently.

People can read into the Bible whatever the want to. Its adaptability is what makes Christianity such a "popular" religion. It also means that it is open to extreme abuse.

[darkphyre]

darkphyre Posted on Dec 25 2004, 3:38 PM


okay, example if you belive in buddha, you must follow the eightful prophet. the eightful prophet contain eight useful infomation to be a better person and not to try to suffer more. one of the prophet saids " respect others ", then monk and buddism will also repect others but not all of buddism respect. it still helps out buddism. another example, one of the eightful prophet saids " be calm, dont be angry, or sad. " if your calm, you wont cuase alot of problems to people, if you get angry .. of course your gonna start causing more troubles. another example from the eightful prohpet .. " dont be nervous " .. becuase if your nervous, you cannot concertrate correctly and focus. It also affect you and what you do to other people

and etc ..is it enough reason ?



aznxdreamer Posted on Dec 25 2004, 4:42 PM


what about religons? do they do any good and help people ? does it make them them feel safer ?

Point 1: I don't get what you're saying, but that's probably because of your use of grammar/spelling.

Point 2: Is a false sense of safety better necessarily a good thing?

I think I get what you're saying. Religion helps people get through life by providing hope. Religion does do this, and it is very important. However, it is not necessary to belong to an organized religion to receive this help.

Furthermore, organized religion encourages "sheep." People follow the doctrines in which they believe mindlessly and don't question whether such patterns of belief and behaviour are still applicable in modern society. It is this "sheep" mentality that I believe makes religion more of a hindrance than a help.

[Tung]

like they say. you can never debate about religion and science. its too vast and complicated =\

[Spirited Away]

okay, example if you belive in buddha, you must follow the eightful prophet. the eightful prophet contain eight useful infomation to be a better person and not to try to suffer more. one of the prophet saids " respect others ", then monk and buddism will also repect others but not all of buddism respect. it still helps out buddism. another example, one of the eightful prophet saids " be calm, dont be angry, or sad. " if your calm, you wont cuase alot of problems to people, if you get angry .. of course your gonna start causing more troubles. another example from the eightful prohpet  .. " dont be nervous " .. becuase if your nervous, you cannot concertrate correctly and focus.  It also affect you and what you do to other people

Your grammar bothered me at first, but the fact that you didn't even get the Noble Eightfold Path right, and called it "eightful prophet", greatly overshadows my initial annoyance with your grammar.

If you're Buddhist, then I'm disappointed. If you're not Buddhist, please try to learn how to spell things correctly about the religion. It's hard, I know, but it's kind of disrepectful and people will get the wrong idea from what you say.