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 Nov 26 2004, 12:30 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Member Posts: 527 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,735  |
I have a question for all of you believers out there...
If there are so many different reilgions, then how do you know which is true (please dont answer with 'faith')? If there were some 'higher-power' that everybody knew was true why wouldnt the whole world become that religion, or believe in them? I think that the whole Bible, God, Higher Power deal is fake. There was once this man who traveled to Africa (around the 1400's before any European had ever been there) and wrote a book about how there are people there that had faces in there chests, necks 5 feet tall, etc. Everybody believed it. How do you know the Bible deal isnt like this? I am pretty sure there is no proof that this stuff is real... so please explain it to me. And don't say faith because some people who dont believe, or have 'faith', dont think that there is a higher power and it is just a bunch of... fake stuff. |
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Nov 27 2004, 12:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 126 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,993 |
i dis-agree....i believe in God nd he has done alot fo me..thaz all
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Nov 27 2004, 01:29 AM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
please see the 'god' thread, the 'christianity' thread, etc. for some good arguements for both sides. i know they're a bit deep in the pile of old threads, but they're there.
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Nov 27 2004, 01:41 AM
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gigi =p Group: Member Posts: 3,679 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,206 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 26 2004, 10:29 PM) please see the 'god' thread, the 'christianity' thread, etc. for some good arguements for both sides. i know they're a bit deep in the pile of old threads, but they're there. Yah, because there's already lots of threads on these subjects that have much more information in them. It just makes the debate forum cluttered. 
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Nov 27 2004, 09:29 AM
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I dont really know religion stuff..
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Nov 28 2004, 12:20 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,172 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 34,045 |
god made tha universe. what can be higher than that?
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Nov 28 2004, 01:54 AM
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 and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
Well, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but all the same.
Yeah, I've thought of that before. Who's to say what's real and what isn't? People as a whole want to believe that there's more to life than what we know. There has to be something that we can't comprehend. If there isn't, then life is pointless and why should we continue pursuing a material "happiness"? It's an endless, possibly pointless circle. The belief in God and religion gives people something to strive for: heaven. |
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Nov 28 2004, 01:57 AM
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 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
Its weird but i do believe in God. but i also have questions.
I am so pleased that you made this topic cause i wonder about it all the time. like i believe in reincarnation for some reason. but i think there is a great power out there , but who knows all of the other religions can be true. i guess we will have to find out what everything is like in the next life. There are so many possibilities out there its un-imaginable. but i believe there is a God/greater power out there but for me he is God, just because he made most things. to other people it can be whoever.... but i also wonder what else is out there, other than our galaxy like humans ,.... there are probably other solar systems out there with so many other species. but again we will find out in the next life after our physical one. |
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Dec 11 2004, 05:43 PM
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 my <3 is in Ohio Group: Member Posts: 899 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,599 |
the problem with the bible is that it was written about 2 million years ago! since then it has been rewritten and translated so much that things have been altered and the bible is no longer accurate if it even was to begin with.
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Dec 11 2004, 06:46 PM
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 High Voltage!∞ Group: Official Member Posts: 4,728 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,157 |
QUOTE(smthngcrprategrl34 @ Dec 11 2004, 2:43 PM) the problem with the bible is that it was written about 2 million years ago! since then it has been rewritten and translated so much that things have been altered and the bible is no longer accurate if it even was to begin with. hmm..good point..it has been alteterd...so some of the stuff is different...I've also heard it keeps out some things..well no matter what..I'm a Catholic Christian, I believe in God, and I believe the Bible 
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Dec 11 2004, 06:56 PM
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MCMXC a. D. Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 69,715 |
QUOTE(smthngcrprategrl34 @ Dec 11 2004, 5:43 PM) the problem with the bible is that it was written about 2 million years ago! since then it has been rewritten and translated so much that things have been altered and the bible is no longer accurate if it even was to begin with. There is a problem about your post, because the bible was written in a different time frame that 2 millions years. (Excuse me, if you get mad. I like making sarcastic statements literal.) But yes, it has been written, revised, and so on and so forth. _______________ I do no neccessarily care about religion at all, but if you ask me, I will give my oppinions. Faith/belief, what ever you want to call it. It is hard to follow something that we really can't see with out eyes. A god exsists as you believe, yes? What about ghosts? They are somewhat from the same plane as god, and yet, you refuse to believe in them as well? Wouldn't they be like, angles, watching over you? What ever. I don't like religion mainly because you are really just preached at. You aren't really explained to why life is here. If 'God' was so great enough to give Jesus the ten damned commandments, why didn't he just say that we were put on earth for a reason? Why didn't he tell us more? What ever. Any questions? |
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Dec 11 2004, 07:09 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
God 1, God 2, Creation/Evolution, Jesus, Should a Christian be a Republican, Christianity, for Christians and Atheists, Life after Death, You can't have it both ways!, Religion pros and cons...
Those are the few topics that are related to religio. I can easily find them in the archives. |
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Dec 11 2004, 11:19 PM
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 NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
Why do people believe in love and fate? You can't touch it, you can't see it, you can't really prove it. Yet people believe in love and fate. I think people need to believe in something for security. Even if things in their life isn't going as they plan, they can always count on religion. I believe that's why...
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Dec 12 2004, 05:49 PM
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 HOY!!!!! Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,098 |
There are so many reasons in this world (or universe) that there is some kind of higher power or creator. There are proofs out there that there is a God/Creator… Christian God or Muslim God… it doesn’t matter. For example, the distance from the Earth to the sun… if we were any further we would go into an ice age…. So how can u explain that the ‘big bang theory” supposedly place our world in the right distance stable enough for life? Other example is the human body, if you look at the complexity of the human body, do u think that evolution can create such a wonderful and complex life form?
So yea I duno if this answers your topic… (sorry if it was off topic) |
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Dec 12 2004, 10:51 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(SkaironFrenzy @ Dec 12 2004, 4:49 PM) There are so many reasons in this world (or universe) that there is some kind of higher power or creator. There are proofs out there that there is a God/Creator… Christian God or Muslim God… it doesn’t matter. For example, the distance from the Earth to the sun… if we were any further we would go into an ice age…. So how can u explain that the ‘big bang theory” supposedly place our world in the right distance stable enough for life? Other example is the human body, if you look at the complexity of the human body, do u think that evolution can create such a wonderful and complex life form? So yea I duno if this answers your topic… (sorry if it was off topic) the distance from the sun isn't almighty important... in the northern hemisphere the earth is farther from the sun in the summer. the big bang will never be proven. the human body is complex... but there is an explination about how it got formed. (yes evolution by natural selection) the bible was written by people interperating the words of jesus. the people we know to be human. do not people lie? could not the bible have lies? the king james version of the bible is riddled with politics... becuase king james commisioned it. you're reading a summary of a summary of a summary... kinda like the game telephone how do you know whether the verses you might be quoting aren't added by someone along the line? |
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Dec 13 2004, 12:45 AM
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 Carried away Group: Member Posts: 356 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,462 |
QUOTE(Kriegsgefangene @ Dec 11 2004, 6:56 PM) There is a problem about your post, because the bible was written in a different time frame that 2 millions years. I am going to have to agree with ^ but I'm going to have to reword his statement a bit. Bible was not written 2 million years ago because the earth is much less than 2 million years old. I will dwell deeper into this if this topic does not get closed and when I'm thinking straighter. That said, religion is not going to church, or reading a holy book or preaching and blah blah. Religion is just the personal relation a person has with their god. LOOK, MA! I DID NOT GENERALIZE!!  Sorry for the sarcasm. I'm not happy. 
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Dec 13 2004, 12:49 AM
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High Voltage!∞ Group: Official Member Posts: 4,728 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,157 |
QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Dec 12 2004, 9:45 PM) I am going to have to agree with ^ but I'm going to have to reword his statement a bit. Bible was not written 2 million years ago because the earth is much less than 2 million years old. I will dwell deeper into this if this topic does not get closed and when I'm thinking straighter. That said, religion is not going to church, or reading a holy book or preaching and blah blah. Religion is just the personal relation a person has with their god. LOOK, MA! I DID NOT GENERALIZE!! Sorry for the sarcasm. I'm not happy. I agree totally with you, yeah, the bible was made more like 2,00 years ago 
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Dec 13 2004, 12:57 AM
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 E! Online Group: Member Posts: 302 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,082 |
QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Dec 11 2004, 11:19 PM) Why do people believe in love and fate? You can't touch it, you can't see it, you can't really prove it. Yet people believe in love and fate. I think people need to believe in something for security. Even if things in their life isn't going as they plan, they can always count on religion. I believe that's why...  exactly. i think religion was made to well..give ppl a sense of security. something to count on. something they can rely upon when things are at its worst. and if things do start turning around for htem, they can call it religion. some clal it coincidence, but personally, wouldn't that be a lot of coincidences... |
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Dec 13 2004, 07:01 AM
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 say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
Well although I believe in Christianity... but I think most religions are actually worshipping THE SAME GOD. I don't know why... but that's what I think. =]
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Dec 13 2004, 04:35 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
no, the commonality with all religions is thier belief in an afterlife (i know, there are some that don't) and with divine being(s)
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Dec 13 2004, 04:49 PM
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 Seien Sie bitte mein Geliebter! Group: Member Posts: 660 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 43,436 |
Religion is so old that I think the main range of religions are variations on the truth... you can see definite similarities in most. For example, if i'm correct, Islam and Christianity both have a god and a human form.
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Dec 13 2004, 04:56 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
No... Allah is entirely transcendental. He does not appear as a human. Mohammed was just a prophet, not a manifestation of Allah.
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Dec 13 2004, 05:56 PM
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Seien Sie bitte mein Geliebter! Group: Member Posts: 660 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 43,436 |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Dec 13 2004, 4:56 PM) No... Allah is entirely transcendental. He does not appear as a human. Mohammed was just a prophet, not a manifestation of Allah. Ah. I see.... But still somewhat similar, yes? Mohammed is a major part of their religion... and some religions believe that Jesus was just a very good person. |
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Dec 13 2004, 09:53 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
those religons that belive jesus was human are 'false' and the 'work of the devil', no?
and is not mohhamad a 'false prophet' according to christianity? |
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Dec 13 2004, 10:12 PM
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 .::Please will you love me?::. Group: Member Posts: 31 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,625 |
Ha. Mohammad had epilepsy. he had seizure, and decided that he was God. he took this idea to the jews and christians and they scoffed. so he wrote his own religion. Islam. true story, btw! Allah was a pagan god that mohammed decided was his "favorite" or most important. also...if jesus died and never rose again, why cant they find his body or remains. they know where he was buried, but they have no sign that he was ever there. (the flood and noahs ark stuff is true...they actually found noahs ark! in a mtn)
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