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sikdragon
post Nov 9 2004, 06:52 AM
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The reason Christianity is real to me is because it is so different from other religions. It has been tested and questioned by the harshest critics. It has undergone the test of time and the story has still been remembered.

The most important diffence is, it's founder lives. Buddha, mohammed, and all the various cult leaders are all dead. Burried in the ground. Christians search for their founder and find an empty tomb of a living king.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 09:05 AM
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what are we supossed to debate about?
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 09:15 AM
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It's mostly highly controversial, but i was hinting at a question. Is there any other religion like it? the answer is no and this is bound to turn into something else so it's better to put in this forum and have it moved than another and have it moved here.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:45 AM
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Uh huh.

Buddha's dead rolleyes.gif . Have you any idea how undeducated you are about other religions? Don't bother to compare Christianity with other religions when you don't even understand them. Just keep praying to your God and leave other people to worship as they like.

And you thought I was off, you're WAYYYYY off.

By the way, how come you can assume that your "living king" is around when you don't see him, but then you assume that Buddha's dead because you don't see Buddha? That's twisting your thoughts for "self-indulgence". Tsk, tsk.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:49 AM
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There are more senses than sight.

Buddha died of an illness brought on by some error in diet.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:54 AM
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Hmm, do you know what Buddhism is? Do you know what Death is to Buddhists? No, you obviously do not.

And also, why is it that you sense the "living king" when you think other people can't sense Buddha(s)?

You're twisting logics again. Or should I say, you are assuming superiority over other religions.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:05 AM
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buddhism is the escape from life. instead of an eternal soul, life is as a bundle of thoughts memories and so forth. Death and rebirth is a never ending cycle. To reach nirvana, or liberate yourself from this cycle is the ultimate goal. once liberated you become nothingness and escape that which is pain.

Who knows i could be wrong.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:07 AM
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to be a buddha is to have a different sense of reality and a different set of thought processes. It's like seeing a crazy person. Not to say buddhas are crazy. They however do not have power over death and still die just as humans.


Doesn't change the fact that lord buddha died.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 9 2004, 11:07 AM)
to be a buddha is to have a different sense of reality and a different set of thought processes. It's like seeing a crazy person. Not to say buddhas are crazy. They however do not have power over death and still die just as humans.


Doesn't change the fact that lord buddha died.

rolleyes.gif Lord Buddha?

You have to stop spouting crap you don't know about. Buddha is not a name, Buddha is a title. Buddha means "one who is awake", not physically awake, but awake to reality. Anyone can be a Buddha. The first 'Buddha' was a man from Nepal, Siddhartha Gautama. He did not claim to be a god, Buddhists don't think he is a god. Enlightenment was his goal, and he achieved it.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 02:07 PM
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To follow Buddhism, one must fundamentally try to get rid of desire. However, like in all religions, there are many Buddhists who do not practice what they preach.


Anyway, in his last moments, Buddha has this to say about death and the road to enlightenment:

“Make yourself a light. Rely upon yourself: do not depend on anyone else. Make my teachings your light… My disciples, my last moment has come, but do not forget that death is only the end of the physical body. The body was born from parents and was nourished by food; just as inevitable are sickness and death. But the true Buddha is not a human body: -it is Enlightenment. A human body must die, but the Wisdom of Enlightenment will exist forever in truth and in practice….”

If you mean that the Buddha simply doesn't exist, then the same is said about your "living king" simply because they are not physically seen.

So death is explained.

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They however do not have power over death and still die just as humans.


They die because it is REQUIRED in the CYCLE. Duh. If you want to compare, Jesus died just as mortals can die.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 9 2004, 6:52 AM)
The most important diffence is, it's founder lives. Buddha, mohammed, and all the various cult leaders are all dead. Burried in the ground. Christians search for their founder and find an empty tomb of a living king.

You are definately believing that christianity is the great religion. You cant say that because you believe in christianity and no other religions.. why should you be able to say what other religions are good or bad if you are only dedicated to one religion.

In the bible it even says you shouldnt be the one judging the only person who can judge is God. So if you wanna judge other religions, try to be perfect, then you can judge anything..

I myself am a catholic but everyone who believes in God/Jesus is a christian so that makes me a christian. But I dont go around preaching that this is the only religion to believe in and all the rest are crap.

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Just keep praying to your God and leave other people to worship as they like.


You have to have respect for those other religions like you dont care about the other religions like Buddhism, and i dont think they care about our religion, its because they believe in what they believe .. we believe in God and they believe in being a Buddha.

We still believe in God even though he died.. its called faith. And mohammed died, but they still believe cause they have faith.. so why should it be so different for us even though they both died??
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 06:37 PM
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this is why i dispise christians. because there are those out there who think you're the enemy if you don't belive if jesus and they think thier religion is all that.

there is no other religion like christianity because christianity is the only religion with the audacity to declare all other religions inferior.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 9 2004, 6:37 PM)
this is why i dispise christians. because there are those out there who think you're the enemy if you don't belive if jesus and they think thier religion is all that.

Perfectly understandable. I would feel the same way, *however*, you can't judge everyone by the actions of those annoying few. Not every christian out there will go out preaching that because one does not believe in Jesus then automatically he/she will be the enemy. Not all christians do that. Yes, there are those that taint the religion by being self-righteous and arrogant ( whistling.gif ), but one cannot judge the group for the actions of a few.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 06:54 PM
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yes, i know i can't judge the whole group on just some.

i just do because it's easier. sorry all christians out there who don't try to convert people and stuff.

i'd actually be christian if certain parts of it were not in it, like it respected other religions and such. and if it made a bit more sense.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 07:21 PM
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fae, I believe when sikdragon refers to lord buddha, he means siddharta gautama.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 9 2004, 6:37 PM)
this is why i dispise christians.  because there are those out there who think you're the enemy if you don't belive if jesus and they think thier religion is all that. 

there is no other religion like christianity because christianity is the only religion with the audacity to declare all other religions inferior.

i feel the same way. it's the evangelicals like sikdragon that make christians look bad.


Sikdragon, if i remember correctly, it was you who said ignorance was dangerous. perhaps you should reevaluate your own incompetence before posting such rubbish. it's no wonder why people fight your self righteous ass.

"You can disagree but don't be disagreeable." -George Washington
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 9 2004, 5:37 PM)
this is why i dispise christians.  because there are those out there who think you're the enemy if you don't belive if jesus and they think thier religion is all that. 

there is no other religion like christianity because christianity is the only religion with the audacity to declare all other religions inferior.

thanks for just generalizing all christians into people who think their religion is superior.

first off... all religions should think that their religion is the right thing b/c its what they BELIEVE in.

i'm a christian too and i personally think that silkdragon needs to think about what he says before he says it..

in other words. wtf is this? are you trying to evangalize? are you trying to spread the word? or are you debating christianity?

1) if you're spreading the word or evangalizing, this is the worst approach i have hever seen
2) if you're debating christianity as a religion. don't do it.

you've totally lost connection with the sense of love that we're supposed to have.

have a heart. please.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 9 2004, 7:21 PM)
fae, I believe when sikdragon refers to lord buddha, he means siddharta gautama.

Babe, that was Waccoon.

But Waccoon was just as "rolly-eyed" as I was since there isn't a "Lord Buddha". He's just Buddha. If one wants to make him distinct from other Buddhas, then one would refer that Buddha by name as you have.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:55 PM
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Did i claim other religions were inferior? no i said christianity is different. When this topic was started I wasn't even sure where to put it. The first poster said what are we supposed to debate about.

Christ died and rose again leaving an empty tomb being God incarnate.

Saying that the founder of our religion lives makes us different.
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 9 2004, 6:52 AM)
The most important diffence is, it's founder lives. Buddha, mohammed, and all the various cult leaders are all dead. Burried in the ground. Christians search for their founder and find an empty tomb of a living king.

And Buddha die in this mortal realm yet exists in another don't make Buddhism different? huh.gif

The tone of how this topic started out suggested great offense to anyone who is Buddhist, Muslim, cult leaders... etc.

There is no outward claim of superiority, but the tone certainly suggested it. That is why I asked you earlier in another post to make yourself clear. If you did not insinuate that Buddhism and Islam are inferior, then why did you say what I quoted above? As in, from what I understand, you think God must be more special than than Buddha and Mohammed because He is alive.

Yes, you will think I'm twisting your words, but I'm not the only one. The fact that I feel that way is because YOU WORDED it that way.
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:15 AM
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i'm sorry... i thought christ died for our sins?

just a thought?

how is he still alive?
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:18 AM
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he ressurected(sp)...
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:19 AM
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and after 3 days accended to heaven. which could be interperated as dying, no?
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:36 AM
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no, it wasn't technically "dying"

his ressurrection was when he came back, and when he ascended back into heaven, he wasn't "dying". people refer to him as the Living Christ b/c he's in heaven watching down on us.

the difference between buddha, muhammed, etc. and Jesus, is that we Christians believe that Jesus is God and all around. Unlike buddha and muhammed, who are dead; their followers don't believe their gods, but rather... prophets and holy people. Christians believe Jesus is God...

that's my half-assed explanation, but i liked mine better than silkdragon's. no offense or anything...
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:39 AM
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Did you read my previous post about the last teachings of Buddha?

Buddha isn't dead. He died (like Jesus) and was reborn elsewhere, or now exist in Nirvana.
 

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