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George W Bush, Like or Hate
Do u like or hat George w Bush
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ComradeRed
post Sep 2 2004, 11:34 AM
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The recession started in MARCH of 2000, not November. But it's not accureate to say that it was cauesd by Clinton -- recessions and expansions are rarely caused by a President. Most Presidents presided over both an expansion AND a recession (Reagan, Clinton, Carter, etc.)

I'll admit that Senior was a total moron, even more so than Junior. "We're already facing a huge budget crisis, so why don't we spend even MORE money to send troops to fight an internal Mid-East War, and then raise taxes going directly against our campaign promises, all the while increasing social spending, especially medicare, to create an even bigger deficit!"

I will proudly say that I would've voted for Ross Perot in 1992, and again in 1996 (Well, maybe Harry Browne in 1996, but I didn't like Andre Marrou).

In terms of financial management, there's just something wrong with the Bushes. Reagan and Clinton both kept the budget balanced (There wasn't a 'surplus' under Clinton -- the way they calculate a budget 'surplus' involves ten-year projections ... but under Clinton and Reagan the deficit grew MUCH slower than under the Bushes). Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. just totally screwed up. And to try to cover up their screwing up, they both decided to mount expensive military operations in the Middle East. Remember that Reagan pulled US troops OUT of Mid-East ... withdrawing from Beirut and lowering the amount of troops in Saudi Arabia -- as a result, we suffered NO terrorist attacks during his watch. On the other hand, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush Jr. all raised American military presence in the Mid-East -- as a result, we've been hit by terrorirsts every few years.

WMDs: They haven't been found yet. That's like saying, "We killed someone because we had reason to believe that he committed a crime -- but we haven't found any evidence yet." Bush decided to do something controversial -- thus, the burden of proof ought to fall on him and him alone. Since he hasn't met the burden of proof, it is in fact fair to call him a liar.
 
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post Sep 2 2004, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 1 2004, 9:28 PM)
Actually, Karl Rove is the first person who started USING the term.

Does Kerry call himself a flip-flopper?

s***, son, did you watch the convention last night? all them old, fogey republicans chanting "flip-flop" waving their hands in the air? i almost suffocated i was laughing so hard! goood times.
 
ComradeRed
post Sep 2 2004, 05:00 PM
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I boycotted both conventions ...

They're just wasting millions of dollars of tax monies and disrupting traffic to have some big frat party. We all know who they are nominating already.

I was in Boston on four separate occasions between May and July. In three of them, I've had a local person complain to me about the DNC and how it was going to screw up Boston's day-to-day activities.

I bet they feel the same way about the RNC in New York City, but I don't even bother trying to get into NYC unless I absolutely have to.
 
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post Sep 2 2004, 05:14 PM
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I'm neutral. The only thing I don't like about Bush is that he wants to ban gay marriage when I find nothing wrong with it.

Good because well since the 9/11 attack, he's done everything that he can to help us. All the wars and everything. He handles it sorta well, I guess.

But I'm inbetween whether I like him or nor.
 
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post Sep 2 2004, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 2 2004, 5:00 PM)
I boycotted both conventions ...

They're just wasting millions of dollars of tax monies and disrupting traffic to have some big frat party. We all know who they are nominating already.

I was in Boston on four separate occasions between May and July. In three of them, I've had a local person complain to me about the DNC and how it was going to screw up Boston's day-to-day activities.

I bet they feel the same way about the RNC in New York City, but I don't even bother trying to get into NYC unless I absolutely have to.

I've been to NYC twice to pick up my mom from work twice during the RNC. It seems that the protesters are causing more trouble than the convention.
 
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post Sep 2 2004, 08:19 PM
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Even if there were no protestors, the security would still be there -- it was already paid for. All the traffic checkpoints and all would still be there.

Boston was completely blocked off from Fleet Street across Downtown to basically the stop off the Highway from Providence, RI. Now Boston is DEMOCRATS having their convention is a very DEMOCRATIC city.

The RNC is REPUBLICANS having their convention in a very DEMOCRATIC city. The RNC security was no doubt tighter than the DNC -- and New York is harder to get into than Boston in the first place... I don't even want to imagine the traffic.
 
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post Sep 4 2004, 10:51 PM
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i'm very impartial right now. i was initially gong to vote for kerry, but after the rnc, i think i might actually vote for bush. thats like a death wish for me since i'm from california, lol
 
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post Sep 4 2004, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 1 2004, 8:57 AM)
Gay? You think it was him who put us through 9/11(Al Qaeda)? You think it was him who put us in the recession (Clinton did)?

THANK YOU! I hate it when people make such ignorant statements that it's his fault that 9/11 happenned or that the economy was bad. mad.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 01:45 AM
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i like bush. i dunno why tho. i just think he looks more like a president than john kerry.. lol. he [kerry] is only 35% basset hound ya kno..

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oh roxanne you're so right.. i love you. lol
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 09:01 AM
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well im not fond of him, but i dont adamently hate him either.
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 09:12 AM
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i don't really know much about politics, but i hate him for his accent. it's southern. it annoys me. happy.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 1 2004, 10:15 AM)
but i have a question for you. Is it somehow feesible that your animosity toward the president is completely unfounded by anything but your own need to hate?

no it's unambiguously feasible that my animosity towards our bone head presidents actions facilitate my HATRED of George W. Bush.


point of advie if you are going to use big words... SPELL THEM CORRECTLY
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 10:27 AM
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Bush is pretty cool... i live in texas... if i could vote, i'd go for bush.
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(JessJR1022 @ Sep 6 2004, 9:36 AM)
no it's unambiguously feasible that my animosity towards our bone head presidents actions facilitate my HATRED of George W. Bush.


point of advie if you are going to use big words... SPELL THEM CORRECTLY

you forgot the apostrophe in "president's." unless, of course, you are calling every single president a bone head.
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:20 PM
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george bush sucks
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:25 PM
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george bush sucks

This is the debate forum. Why don't you give us some of your reasons as to why you think he does? stubborn.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:28 PM
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In 2004, Bush will be the first non-Jewish Republican presidential candidate to NOT get a majority of the Arab vote. Arab-Americans have voted Republican in every election since 1968. This is taking into account that 75% of Arabs voted for Bush in 2000, compared to only 20% for Gore (2 Nader, 2 Buchanan, 1 Other).

Polling this time around shows that Bush's support among Arabs has dropped to only 20%. (55% to Kerry, 12% to Badnarik, 4% to Nader, 9% Undecided -- this also makes Arabs the most Libertarian ethnic group). Assuming that Bush gets half the undecided votes will give Bush only 25% of the Arab vote -- even Barry Goldwater in 1964 got a higher percentage than that, and he was Jewish.
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Sep 6 2004, 5:25 PM)
This is the debate forum. Why don't you give us some of your reasons as to why you think he does? stubborn.gif

wub.gif wub.gif Kathleen... dribble.gif

FIERCE.
 

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