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 Aug 18 2004, 12:52 PM
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 and they say imitation is flattering  Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269  |
There's only fictional proof that god does exist, though.
I should probably say alleged. (Or something) But for all we know, it could be fictional. |
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Aug 18 2004, 12:53 PM
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 "Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 18 2004, 12:48 PM) Because we didn't have technology back in the 1910's, we didn't even have refridgerator.... technology was totally diff back then ...then 2day...cant compare...so why doesht science prove that god doesnt excist...oh my bad god created science and technology word!!! w/e the reason is god loves all of those that dont even believe and those who rejects them smile god loves u 
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Aug 18 2004, 12:54 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 12:52 PM) There's only fictional proof that god does exist, though. I should probably say alleged. (Or something) But for all we know, it could be fictional. You answered it for me, thanks. |
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Aug 18 2004, 12:56 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 12:53 PM) technology was totally diff back then ...then 2day...cant compare...so why doesht science prove that god doesnt excist...oh my bad god created science and technology word!!! w/e the reason is god loves all of those that dont even believe and those who rejects them smile god loves u Science is logic, and in logic is the absence of God. |
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Aug 18 2004, 12:57 PM
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 Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
there is more than fictional proof, look around you, do you think this all was created at random?
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Aug 18 2004, 12:57 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 12:52 PM) There's only fictional proof that god does exist, though. I should probably say alleged. (Or something) But for all we know, it could be fictional. why is it fictional? u say u use 2 pray 2 god when u where younger...it sounds like u dont anymore....and if u dont how come?? god hears u...he will help u
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Aug 18 2004, 12:57 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
not true logic isnt the absence of God it is rational thought with the absence of emotion.
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Aug 18 2004, 12:58 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 12:53 PM) technology was totally diff back then ...then 2day...cant compare...so why doesht science prove that god doesnt excist...oh my bad god created science and technology word!!! w/e the reason is god loves all of those that dont even believe and those who rejects them smile god loves u I don't quite understand what you're saying... Man discovered science and technology.... What does God, who's a spirit (according to someone... I forgot who), has to do with it? 
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Aug 18 2004, 12:59 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
God is the creator of all, he inspired humans to build from his creation.
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Aug 18 2004, 01:01 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
This wasn't all created at random. This is the result of evolution.
And I never said that the bible is fictional, only that it's very possible that it is. As a kid, I only believed in God because I didn't want to go to Hell, not becaue I thought he was good and righteous. As I've said before, to believe in God just to get out of Hell is selfish, and I don't want to do that. Do you get it NOW? |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:01 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 12:56 PM) Science is logic, and in logic is the absence of God. hmm isee wat u think...out of sight out of mind...since we can see him no one believes....but can we 4got about him if everything around us reminds us of wat he is things will never be right withouth god in this picture...we can pretend that everything is find withouth god but then a risen of a car an ambulance of a fire truck will quickly remind us that everything is not well ...we do need him the way he wants 2 b not the way we want it 2 be.. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:01 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 12:59 PM) God is the creator of all, he inspired humans to build from his creation. So God inspired man to discover Evolution, according to you. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:02 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
yeah and you shouldnt believe in him out of fear of hell, u should do it out of love of him. evolution isnt proven either and says that you are no better than a monkey who can think. if that was true where did morality come from?
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Aug 18 2004, 01:03 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
inspired men to think and discover things on their own, and those men chose to abuse their free choice by trying key word trying, to disprove God.
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Aug 18 2004, 01:05 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:03 PM) inspired men to think and discover things on their own, and those men chose to abuse their free choice by trying key word trying, to disprove God. amen!! |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:06 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:02 PM) yeah and you shouldnt believe in him out of fear of hell, u should do it out of love of him. evolution isnt proven either and says that you are no better than a monkey who can think. if that was true where did morality come from? So you mean to say that morality is dependent of religion? QUOTE inspired men to think and discover things on their own, and those men chose to abuse their free choice by trying key word trying, to disprove God. Ah, I didn't know that there is a limit to the free will. I assumed that the word "free" refers to limitless... |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:09 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 1:06 PM) Ah, I didn't know that there is a limit to the free will. I assumed that the word "free" refers to limitless... Wow, me too. Go figure. So God gives us free will. then he gives us consequences for using our free will. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:09 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
there isnt there is a choice to do right and a choice to do wrong, a choice to go to heaven and a choice to go to hell. simple isnt it?
religion has nothing to do with it, morality has to do with the way that God built us. animals have no morality. they follow isntinct. an animal cant learn morality it is all instinct. like a good dog just learns how to act to get treated good, conscience is an inner sense of morality that cant be learned it is just there. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:12 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 1:09 PM) Wow, me too. Go figure. So God gives us free will. then he gives us consequences for using our free will. of coures there is consequences....just like doing bad at school we choose 2 do good or bad...fail or pass....make money or be a bum we are smart enough 2 kno wat is wrong and right...but duh we choose wat is more easier in life which leaves 2 sin...god gave us the freedom 2 choose either heaven or hell...believe im him or not....ignore the pple that give us the gospell or 2 accept the gospell...be hardheaded or humble.....write on tthis forum or not. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:13 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:09 PM) there isnt there is a choice to do right and a choice to do wrong, a choice to go to heaven and a choice to go to hell. simple isnt it? Right and wrong are complicated in religion. Your right may not be right according to a Jew/Muslim... The choice to go to Heaven is to believe in God. The choice to go to Hell is to disbelieve.... I don't know about you but that's not much of a choice. QUOTE religion has nothing to do with it, morality has to do with the way that God built us. animals have no morality. they follow isntinct. an animal cant learn morality it is all instinct. like a good dog just learns how to act to get treated good, conscience is an inner sense of morality that cant be learned it is just there. So, morality is based on God... tell me if that's the case, because there are PLENTY of ways to discredit that. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:15 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:09 PM) there isnt there is a choice to do right and a choice to do wrong, a choice to go to heaven and a choice to go to hell. simple isnt it? religion has nothing to do with it, morality has to do with the way that God built us. animals have no morality. they follow isntinct. an animal cant learn morality it is all instinct. like a good dog just learns how to act to get treated good, conscience is an inner sense of morality that cant be learned it is just there. Religion has everything to do with it. We're talking about Hell. You keep saying that anyone who doesn't accept or believe in Jesus goes to Hell. And I'd rather go to hell than go to heaven and listen to all the holier-than-thou missionaries. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:17 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
you can try to discredit that.
basic right and wrong is the same. but all things will be taken into account at judgement. it is a huge amount of choices. When you lead a christian life your life has purpose and meaning. it is a joyous thing to see God's blessings in this new light. And going the other only satisfies our basic instincts to such an extent. |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:17 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 1:13 PM) Right and wrong are complicated in religion. Your right may not be right according to a Jew/Muslim... The choice to go to Heaven is to believe in God. The choice to go to Hell is to disbelieve.... I don't know about you but that's not much of a choice. So, morality is based on God... tell me if that's the case, because there are PLENTY of ways to discredit that. religion aint nothing...its just a category.....all god wants is 4 us 2 walk in his way...and believe wat he tells us in the bible....and 2 share his word with non believers....that way we can all go 2 heaven and b with him....ur right i might seem wrong 2 a jew or muslim....but its called fate and i kno im going 2 heaven |
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Aug 18 2004, 01:18 PM
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"Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
out of sight out of mind...since we can see him no one believes....but can we 4got about him if everything around us reminds us of wat he is things will never be right withouth god in this picture...we can pretend that everything is find withouth god but then a risen of a car an ambulance of a fire truck will quickly remind us that everything is not well ...we do need him the way he wants 2 b not the way we want it 2 be..
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Aug 18 2004, 01:20 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
QUOTE Religion has everything to do with it. We're talking about Hell. You keep saying that anyone who doesn't accept or believe in Jesus goes to Hell. And I'd rather go to hell than go to heaven and listen to all the holier-than-thou missionaries. its true if you dont then you go to hell, religion is what messes everything up. God wants a personal relationship not perfect attendance at a church. have i been acting holier-than-thou? i hope i havent sounded like that, all im trying to do is give you my side of the story. and i doubt people who act like that will be like that in heaven. if they are going. |
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