im not racist..., i just have a color tv! Options

[*CEP*]

Why is this here? Who moved it?
They're debating. It was in the Debate forum.

Christ. Someone's slacking off.

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[mizz_mithy]

FYI, the KKK clan was not the only racist group either...

oh so they just hung black pplz and jews for no reason. right...

[leeeza702]

oh so they just hung black pplz and jews for no reason. right...

uhm, i think they meant that the KKK is not the only racist group out there.... that there are other groups that are racist towards others???.......

[ComradeRed]

erm..i bet i'd have an easier time finding an ancestor of mine that was enslaved than you would
and my mom is 100% nigerian(african country) and my dad is 50% nigerian..and where did they get the slaves from?

The "Slave Coast" where they got most of the slave sdoesn't extend all the way to Nigeria. Sorry. It's more of a Senegal to Ghana thing.

[Spirited Away]

I totally understand why Blacks would feel discriminated in some situations, but feeling it and experiencing it are two different things. The kids that I work with just use it as an excuse most of the time, even when the sentence "it's because I'm Black" has nothing to do with it.

Yes, Africans were enslaved, but other races such as the Chinese were discriminated and looked down on as well when they were working the railroads, and Japanese Americans were "jailed" after Pearl Harbor because Americans were too suspcicious and spiteful after what happened even thought it wasn't their fault. Sure, African Americans suffered many injustices, and I'm not going to justify something unjustifiable, but using that as an excuse in contemporary time is... out of date, and overused.

The White man doesn't discriminate only Blacks, when he discriminates, he would discriminate Hispanics, Asians, and Mid Easterns as well. And when Blacks/Asians/Hispanics discriminate, they discriminate other races as well.

Trust me when I say that discrimination works BOTH ways. So, Blacks are not the only ones on the receiving end.

[ComradeRed]

A Brief History Lesson:

Most African-Americans have been in America longer than White Americans.

We don't go up to someone and call him an "Italian-American" unless he was actually born in Italy. Similarly, there is no reason we should refer to blacks as "African-Americans" unless they were acutally borin in Africa. They are Americans just like the rest of us -- no more, no less, no hyphen.

[Spirited Away]

A Brief History Lesson:

Most African-Americans have been in America longer than White Americans.

We don't go up to someone and call him an "Italian-American" unless he was actually born in Italy. Similarly, there is no reason we should refer to blacks as "African-Americans" unless they were acutally borin in Africa. They are Americans just like the rest of us -- no more, no less, no hyphen.

^^ I see, but how do you know if they're not directly from Africa ?

And does this work the same way with Hispanics or Asians... etc?

[inlonelinessidie]

for example.... theres this one thing in america that if ur black or mexican.... u get an extra point on ur sat per question....

That pissed me off too, I hope you were kidding also. And if the blacks or Mexicans get higher points it's because they are intelligent people. At least we know how to spell the word 'hire' unlike you.

[ComradeRed]

Actually, no. Blacks and Hispanics on average do much WORSE than whites and Asians on the SATs ... even with the point advantage.

However, they are accepted to top schools at a much Higher rate. Dartmouth College, one of hte Ivy League Eight, accepts 55% -- that is over HALF of all African-American students who apply, compared to just 15% of white students, who are, on average, applying with higher grades and test scores, as well as more activity involvement.

[mizz_mithy]

uhm, i think they meant that the KKK is not the only racist group out there.... that there are other groups that are racist towards others???.......

oppz i'll admitt i was wrong on that one.

[inlonelinessidie]

that's nice.
but that doesn't mean just because you're black or hispanic you're going to do worse on a SAT

Exactly. Race has nothing to do with your intelligence. You were born into it as it was stated before.

[leeeza702]

that's nice.
but that doesn't mean just because you're black or hispanic you're going to do worse on a SAT

first of all..... no double posting...

i think he knows that just because you're black or hispanic that means you're going to do worse... it was kind of like those... statistics or whatever...

[BlondE x Babii]

I think this should be in debate

yes i totally agree with you. TOTALLY. and also, seriously. an eye for an eye never works out now does it? that's what you're trying to achieve. i think, just because of what blacks went through, they think their definition of racism is somehow stricter than whites. well you know what, it ISNT. if you think one thing is racist, you can't just go around doing the same thing to whites. blacks arent the only people that were treated poorly in this country. not only that, they weren't the only people who were enslaved. Have you ever heard of shanghaing? that was big where i lived, in portland. back in the 1800s, people would go into bars, and slip drugs into unsuspecting people's drinks. when they passed out, they'd take the person through a tunnel behind the bar out to the dock on the columbia river, and proceed to ship them over to foriegn countries to work as slaves. and honey, these people were white. But you don't see them running around flipping out because their own kind enslaved them. you don't see us doing that. a lot of the blacks in this country weren't even related to a slave. most of you aren't even suffering from what happened more than a hundred and fourty years ago. you could argue that, because of slavery, blacks have no opportunies blah blah blah BULLSH!T. there's a such thing as the "Hope Scholarship" over here in Georgia, where anyone who has a GPA of above 3.0 can go to any public college they want in this state, all expenses paid. Still, the percentage of blacks actually attending college is low. So seriously, don't blame us. Also, I think we whites put up with a hell of a lot from blacks, given that if we would do the same to them, we'd be called racist.

For example: I had a black friend named Xavier. Every single time we'd critisize him, he'd respond with "It's because I'm black, ISNT IT." So one day at lunch, he looked at this girl named Danielle (who was black,) and was like "I really don't like her. She's so damn annoying and she thinks people actually care about what she has to say." So I simply said "It's because she's black, ISNT IT." Do you know what happened? He was extremely offended.

Now why is this? Blacks just feel entitled to make fun of whoever they come across, if they happen to be white. White guys cant rap, white girls can't dance. According to them. But if you see a black man trying to learn the flute, which is not only a usually not black thing to do, but also a female thing to do, you don't see people giving him a hard time. Employers always have issues firing their employees if the employee happens to be black and the employer, white, for fear of being called RACIST. But the other way around, and there's never a problem. Either blacks need to CHILL OUT, or whites need to stop taking **** from blacks. Blacks have gone through a lot, yes. But they need to understand that with their struggles and hardships, even at the time, much of the united states and our country of whites DIDNT support what was happening to them.

So if you want equality like you said you all do, maybe you should treat whites equally as well. There are some hardcore southern racists who don't treat blacks well, but other than that, I have not met or seen anyone who ever treated a black person the wrong way. I only take in the fact that the person is black, same as I would say She's asian or She's Indian. But when you start making sure everyone saw the difference between the two races and when you want everything to be segregated in thought, that's when you start contradicting the "equality" you want.

TBoltzbabe: i totally agree with everything youve said

what everyones said is true blacks wernt the only people enslaved sure maybe the us focuses on the period around the civil war and automatically thinks of that when they hear the word slavery but the should.... plenty of white slaves were around wayy before the civil war. for example when colonists came here they had slaves who were white



heres a page all about white slaves in the us

[BlondE x Babii]

no one said black ppl were the only ones that were enslaved
i heard that some asians were enslaved..
but this topic is about black and white ppl

yea but ur sure as hell acting like blacks were the only ones enslaved

hey? maybe it's because we black people didn't enslave white people and then treat them like shyt after slavery was over..
maybe it's because in the 2000 election black ppl didn't disenfranchise white votes

i can't believe u have the nerve to use the word nigger

you know what's funny?
you'd think you were a jackass if you were black.
of course it's easy to forgive and forget.
especially when your ancestors weren't the ones that were enslaved. 

uh yea they were?

i'd have a better chance finding an enslaved ancestor than she would.

from what i understand shes greek and thats in europe and idk if its just me but europe had tons of slavery even before the civil war era slavery happened

[Spirited Away]

but this topic is about black and white ppl 

Since when?

And who said Asians are enslaved?

[ComradeRed]

still.
i'd have a better chance finding an enslaved ancestor than she would.

Most Europeans were enslaved at some point or another.

The percentage of the Roman Empier composed of slaves was much higher than the percentage of the American South so composed.

[leeeza702]

^^ uh read the 1st post

maybe you should re-read the 1st post...

i don't get it when people say 'PROUD AND BLACK/-insert race here-".
it's just a skin color! why be proud of a skin color?
yuo're race is not something you work for or earn, you are born into it. you can't help it. what's there to be proud of there?

it just turned into a whites/blacks topic... with the whole slavery issue and why its okay to make fun of white people... but not the other way around...

[DesperateXMeasur...]

some black people say "nigger" like as a joke.
you know some people say things like, 'she's MY bitch!" (sh...bad example)
i guess it's a joke.

Okay they say it as a joke. But if a white person would say it as a joke, everyone would flip out.

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[ComradeRed]

A while ago, the successful businesswoman Darla Moore got on the cover of Fortune Magazine under the title "The Toughest Babe in Business". Many women are angered at this and sent letters into fortune. To this, Darla Moore wrote a response which basically said that women who were complaining about the use of "Babe" would never get on the cover of fortune -- because they are too busy focusing on semantics and not on REAL issues.

Similarly, when groups like the NAACP insist on political correctness and try to put a taboo on words like "Nigger" all they are doing is not letting the real issues at hand be debated. This kind of thing is harmful to everyone -- blacks, whites, and all other races as well.

Have any of you ever read 1984? The way in which Big Brother controls people is through LANGUAGE -- Newspeak. The way I see it, Newspeak and Political Correctness are exactly the same thing. And both are extremely dangerous.

[leeeza702]

ehh..i never said it was okay to make fun of white ppl..
i was just saying why SOME black ppl can make "racist jokes" against white ppl..
and plz don't go back and pull up something i said yesterday..that's really lame..i know that i've been more open minded to what ppl were saying here than i was yesterday

uhhh... i never said that you said that it was okay....

nevermind the topic title...

anyway.
it's okay to be racist...if you're doing it to a white person.

why is 'nigger' more offenstive than 'wigger' or 'cracker'?

have you noticed those 'black shows' show white people as very dumb and stupid. what if it was the other way around? you would have 476583x33 people saying the show is racist.

that's what I was talking about... and what are you talking about pulling something up from yesterday???

[Mireh]

i'll call someone an african america the day i get call a 'middle eastren american"

wtf? your screwed

[lucky_clover]

you know, a lot of times, people thinks asians are racist againest people not there color and that's probally true. but i don't believe that at all. people shouldn't jujde people on what they are born with. even though some people can be really harsh about this subject, it's very complicated let's just say that.

[ComradeRed]

It's racist to say that all people of a certain race are racist.

[BiGdRaGoN31]

racism is bad,it should end. easily said but not easily done rite.

[ComradeRed]

"Racism is bad." Brilliant conclusion, Mr. Holmes.