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Columbine High School Shooting Massacre, Way back in April 20, 1999
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post Feb 2 2006, 07:37 PM
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Sorry if there is a topic like this!

I recently watched a documentary called Bowling for Columbine. It's basically about a high school massacre in Columbine High School and the director's thoughts on gun violence.


Anyways I really want to talk about the high school shooting a bit more. It's the second deadliest attack on a school and the deadliest school shooting. The two shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and teachers and injured 24 others. The documentary I mentioned earlier has detailed footage of what had happened through the security cameras (boy were they brutal). These two students were "out-casts" of the school and were full of hatred towards their fellow students.

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The Columbine High School massacre occurred on Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at Columbine High School in unincorporated Jefferson County, Colorado, near Denver and Littleton, Colorado, in the United States. Two teenage students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, carried out a shooting rampage, killing twelve fellow students and a teacher, as well as wounding twenty-four others, before committing suicide. It is considered to be the deadliest school shooting, and the second deadliest attack on a school in US History.

The massacre provoked refined debate regarding gun control laws and the availability of firearms in the United States. Much discussion also centered on the nature of high school cliques and bullying, as well as the role of violent movies and video games in American society. Several of the victims who were believed to have been killed due to their religious beliefs became a source of inspiration to others, notably Christians, and led some to lament the decline of religion in public education and society in general. The shooting also resulted in an increased emphasis on school security, and a moral panic aimed at goth culture, heavy metal music, social pariahs, the use of pharmaceutical anti-depressants by teenagers, violent films and violent video games


here is a detailed article of it:
Wikipedia explains what happened before, during, and after the shooting
The Depressive and the Psychopath

I know this happened years ago, but I want to see if there were people who actually went to Columbine, heard of it in the news by the time it came out, and a few of your reactions (and theories as to why this happened).
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 07:53 PM
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I remember it really well. I was in seventh grade when it happened. There had been a rash of school shootings in the previous months, but nothing like this. I just remember that everyone went crazy about it. Suddenly we weren't learning about fire drills or tornado drills; we were learning how to lock down doors, and where to hide in a classroom to avoid gunfire. We were learning how to signal to SWAT teams that were were in a room, or that there were wounded students with us. We were getting randomly searched for weapons, and pretty much every semi-depressed kid seemed to be a suspect for a major shooting. Teachers were required to lock their doors, except at the beginning and end of classes.

I guess the thing I remember most was that things were never quite the same again. Even years later, schools still seemed on edge. Doors weren't required to be locked, backpacks weren't searched, and dark, depressed kids weren't suspected of harboring thoughts of a bloodbath. But even so, it was still dangerous to say something like "I'm so mad I could kill that guy" or make any joke remotely alluding to blowing up the school.

I don't think about it much now (partly because I'm not in an elementary or secondary school anymore) but I still have memories of how the massacre at Columbine changed everything. It really did leave a mark all across the US.
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:05 PM
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^O where are you now? College?

I was in the Philippines when this happened so I really NEVER knew of this until I saw the documentary. I was just upset how people pointed fingers at certain groups and how (before the shooting) these two shooters were ignored (kinda but they were given some help that didn't change a goddamn thing). The second article kind of prooved that it was the messed up media's fault (besides the bullying) that caused this rampage. I guess it taught bullies a lesson?
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:08 PM
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Don't completly trust a documentary...half the time they're souped up with crap.

Buttt...this made everyone paranoid. My school suddenly got 500x more freaky. More people brought knives, there were more drug busts..it's like all of a sudden everyone said "Let's all bring knives!" or "Drugggssss!" .
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:09 PM
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^HOLY shiiit seriously? So you're saying it influenced trouble makers a bit more?

And yeah true most documentaries are messed up but Michael Moore is extremely good with bring up points.

BUT WHAT REALLY UPSET ME was that the two shooters shot a few students that were innocent and never really reacted to/with them. I'm just glad those who were actually friends with the shooters were spared.
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:10 PM
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I remember this. We discussed it a few times in elementary school when I was in 6th grade, because a man had a shotgun and he was in our field, and yeah.

In 8th grade we talked about it as well. Ive watched that same documentary I think. But, the shooting was horrible, as would anyone would think. But Im just about speechless when it comes to the topic about it. I really dont know what to say.
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:11 PM
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Points that he stretches with lies.

-shuts up about it now-

Yesss it was weird! It was like all of a sudden even MORE people decided to reek havoc.

(I was in the 4th grade @ the time..but my brother was @ the HS and he told us...)
 
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 9:11 PM)
Points that he stretches with lies.

-shuts up about it now-

Yesss it was weird! It was like all of a sudden even MORE people decided to reek havoc.

(I was in the 4th grade @ the time..but my brother was @ the HS and he told us...)
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Wait did you even watch the documentary?

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I'm assuming you did

Bella, did anyone get shot???? ohmy.gif
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 8:11 PM)
-shuts up about it now-

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post Feb 2 2006, 08:15 PM
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Yen - Oh, no. My school had a lot of lockdowns in elementary and a few in middle school because of "dangerous" persons lurking in the school.
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 11:08 PM
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This was really scary. I think I was in first grade when this happened. All I remember is that we watched it on TV and I was really scared.. I kept thinking of all those people dying and wondering if we were going to die too.

I didn't like that at all.
 
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^Yeah it's scary. It makes me want to console all those people the jocks make fun of in school...
 
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post Feb 2 2006, 11:13 PM
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I remember that shooting very well. I remember being worried thinking my friend went there (because this happened in Colorado and I live in Colorado) and I remember how people left school early because their parents were scared it could happen at our schools.

Everything I think has been changed since then. More security and rules at school for sure.
 
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post Feb 3 2006, 04:39 PM
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Yeah, I was in the fifth grade when it happened. I live in Colorado, so everyone was so shaken up about it. Well, I know I'll never forget that day. It's really vivid. The teachers wouldn't tell us what was going on, but when I got home, my parents hugged me real tight and asked me if I was okay. I was confused, but after I watched the news all day, I just cried and cried. I was so angry at the Harris and Klebold. We went to this memorial service for all the kids and the teacher that died.
The security tightened SO much at all the schools.
 
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post Feb 3 2006, 04:51 PM
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My school made international headlines, but we didn't have any fatalities, so we are relatively unknown. We had a religious nut try to cut up sinners with a folding tree saw and a machete. Blood everywhere in the hallways. Seven kids got sliced up pretty bad, but no one died. Mr. Gordon tackled the kid. People cry on newspapers, it was lame.

Anyways, Yeah. Columbine, I do remember rather vividly. I think I stayed home from school that day so I spent most of my time watching the reports on the news. I remember the SWAT teams not doing their jobs. I remember alot of people freaking out. Most of all I remember how extreme schools became with zero-tolerance policy. Also, the backlash against violent video games, Marilyn Manson, and homosexuality. Very odd times. Of all the crazy ass theories, it was really hard to find anyone talking about social stigmas and realities. Most seemed a hell of a lot more comfortable blaming the entire thing on a few Manson songs and Doom. Real lame.

Also, the entire situation spawned the worst movie ever made, Gus Van Sant's Elephant. I want to stab myself now. Bye.
 
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:59 PM
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:00 PM
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it all halo's fault
 
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(xnofearx @ Feb 3 2006, 5:59 PM)
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Hell on Mars, what blasphemy!
 
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post Feb 3 2006, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Programmer @ Feb 3 2006, 6:00 PM)
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post Feb 4 2006, 12:08 AM
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Wow, i dont know whats going on...
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QUOTE(Blow_Don't_SUCK @ Feb 2 2006, 7:37 PM)
Sorry if there is a topic like this!

I recently watched a documentary called Bowling for Columbine. It's basically about a high school massacre in Columbine High School and the director's thoughts on gun violence.

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Why are you so interested in this? Because you saw one movie?
 
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post Feb 4 2006, 12:08 AM
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YES
 
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post Feb 4 2006, 02:35 AM
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nahhh i hate the columbine guys and 9/11, because after that there were like the " TERRORIST THREATS " and the " ZERO TOLERANCE " policy that was adopted...and everything got taken really seriously...


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they should have been more organized...HONORABLE DEATH BY SUICIDE!
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Feb 2 2006, 9:08 PM) *
Don't completly trust a documentary...half the time they're souped up with crap.


I dug up a site for you - one that you'll enjoy, it's about the "Bowling for Columbine" documentary and how it is not "scouped up with crap".

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

I still don't understand why people (well, TEENAGERS) would pull guns out and start shooting their peers. It doesn't make sense to me. What the hell would make someone, especially at that age, kill someone else? >.<

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post Apr 4 2006, 06:22 AM
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^ That's because the website you got it from, was from the guy - Michael Moore who DIRECTED and PRODUCED Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 911.

Anyhow, there's a thread on Bowling for Columbine in the Entertainment section. So...
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 11:22 AM
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my teachers mentioned that pretty often; they said that we had to worry about the quiet kids. I guess that's a pretty sterotypical thing to say;
 

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