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post Aug 8 2005, 03:30 PM
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Congressman Sensenbrenner's draconian mandatory minimum sentencing bill. This bill is now garnering national attention.

This bill would have serious consequences for our democracy, requiring you to spy on all your neighbors, including going undercover and wearing a wire if needed. Refusing to become a spy for the government would be punishable by a mandatory prison sentence of at least two years.

help to fight this bill, including your ideas.


. Here's how it works:

If you "witness" certain drug offenses taking place or "learn" that they took place you would have to report the offense to law enforcement within 24 hours and provide "full assistance" in the investigation, apprehension, and prosecution of the people involved. Failure to do so would be a crime punishable by a mandatory two year prison sentence.

Here are some examples of offenses you would have to report to the police within 24 hours:

* You see someone you know pass a joint to a 20-year old college student.
* Your cousin mentions that he bought Ecstasy for some of his college friends.
* You find out that your brother, who has kids, recently bought a small amount of marijuana to share with his wife.
* Your substance-abusing daughter recently begged her boyfriend to find her some drugs even though they're both in drug treatment.

In each of these cases you face jail time if you don't call the police within 24 hours. It doesn't matter if the offender is your friend or relative. It also doesn't matter if you need 48 hours to think about it. You have to report the person to the government within 24 hours or go to jail. You also have to assist the government in every way, including wearing a wire if needed. Refusing to cooperate would cost you at least two years in prison (possibly up to ten). In addition to turning family member against family member, the legislation could also put many Americans into dangerous situations by forcing them to go undercover to gain evidence against strangers.


its like the rockafella law across the us
 
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pshaa.shauna
post Aug 8 2005, 03:33 PM
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Where does the goverment come up with this stuff???!?!?! blink.gif
 
angel-roh
post Aug 8 2005, 03:33 PM
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Wha?

Where'd you get this?

That's kinda crazy... is this for real or a joke?

BECAUSE IT'S THE DUMBEST LAW I EVER HEARD!

you will go to jail if you dont hurry up and report the police?!?!?!? ROFL! HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA just because your relative or your friends might have marijuana hiding...and if you know them and you dont tell. you will go to jail?! ROFL HAHAHAHAHAAHA
 
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if thats enforced, im moving to canada.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(anovation @ Aug 8 2005, 2:33 PM)
if thats enforced, im moving to canada.
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I've been thinking about that for a long time now...
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:41 PM
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I'm boarding the plane to New Zealeald once that comes into effect...if it does..
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:48 PM
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blink.gif That is.. the dumbest law. EVER.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:48 PM
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canada, oh canadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

it might make history as the dumbest law in US.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:51 PM
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are u being serious?

because if u are, im going to england. hey mates!
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 03:52 PM
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are u being serious?

because if u are, im going to england. hey mates!
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 04:16 PM
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hahaha just as dumb as texas banning cheerleading.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 04:22 PM
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wtf how would they even know if you knew?
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 05:19 PM
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WTF; america is starting to suck now. >_>
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Aug 8 2005, 5:22 PM)
wtf how would they even know if you knew?
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exactly. what are they gonna do, run tests that can know what you're thinking?
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 05:52 PM
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*agrees* that's stupid
*agrees* how would they know?

They should make another law that goes something like this: if you know someone that knows someone's doing drugs report it or you'll go to jail. And so on...
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 05:53 PM
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thats a dumb law they tryin to make up snitch thats bull. Id rather go to jail.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 05:59 PM
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is that real?
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 07:55 PM
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How dumb.

Oh well, we have people's power to rebel against the gov.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 08:43 PM
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I guess since Bush became President, any retard in Congress can try and enact stupid bills. What the hell? Someone should investigate and prosecute him to find out what durgs he's on.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 08:53 PM
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that's stupid, you can just say you didn't know ..
 
maia_dc
post Aug 8 2005, 08:59 PM
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That's bull. Wth... most people have more loyalty to their family and friends than the government.
^Uhh that sounds bad but you get it.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:28 PM
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that is a horrible law mad.gif it's a lose lose law. like if you don't tell you get dumped in jail and if you do tell, no one is going to want to hang around with a tattle tail.


QUOTE(x3__iGiVEup @ Aug 8 2005, 6:19 PM)
WTF; america is starting to suck now. >_>
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yes it does. has anyone heard of the patriot act? ever since like a month after 9/11, the government has had the ability to get any information about you. whether it's medical reports, library crap, credit, etc. if you get an abortion or something with some confidentiality thing from the doctor, it doesn't mean sh*t because they have to give up everything about you to the government. and plus, the government doesn't even have to tell you that they're looking through all your personal sh*t.

this law is supposed to expire soon but Bush wants to make it a law and according to my US History teacher, Bush will probably have his way because Congress is mostly made up of Republicans like Bush.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:47 PM
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this is just a really dumb law. i mean, someone can just pretend they see it or hear it or knew it.

^^ i agree with you on the patriot act. i think under Bush the basic rights of an American citizen are being violated. i don't think the constitution and the bill of rights aren't important anymore.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(x3__iGiVEup @ Aug 8 2005, 5:19 PM)
WTF; america is starting to suck now. >_>
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it's sucked since 2000.
 
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:55 PM
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I think the only reason it's dumb is because how are the police actaully going to know that you know? Sure, if they actually bust someone and the jerk that got busted starts pointing to random people saying that they knew all about it too, are the police going to arrest every single person in the neighborhood if the crook says things? I mean the only way they can find out you knew is :

1. You tell them.
2. The person that got caught told them.

I'm sure you wouldn't tell them and who's going to believe someone who just got arrested for selling illegal drugs?

America..
 

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