Quality Standards? Options

[Melie]

well i also feel that there are some layouts that are being approved are almost all the same...no originality to them. some even look like something that someone put together while testing out photoshop like:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25957
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25633
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25406
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=25153
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25139

now, i know that i don't make the best layouts either and i understand that we had gotten new admins and such. i'm just curious as to what is going to be done about the ones that are not really up to cb standards?

[MissHygienic]

well i also feel that there are some layouts that are being approved are almost all the same...no originality to them. some even look like something that someone put together while testing out photoshop like:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25957
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25633
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25406
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=25153
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25139

now, i know that i don't make the best layouts either and i understand that we had gotten new admins and such. i'm just curious as to what is going to be done about the ones that are not really up to cb standards?

You should see the layouts that do get rejected.

And there's not a lot wrong with simple layouts. . .we can't expect everyone to make elaborate and decorated layouts. There's a category for "Minimal" for a reason. We're not going to go back to reject the ones that have already been accepted months ago, unless it's been discussed among everyone on Design Staff and the administrators. As of now, though, I think the layouts that have been reviewed and accepted have been fine.

[Melie]

You should see the layouts that do get rejected.

And there's not a lot wrong with simple layouts. . .we can't expect everyone to make elaborate and decorated layouts. There's a category for "Minimal" for a reason. We're not going to go back to reject the ones that have already been accepted months ago, unless it's been discussed among everyone on Design Staff and the administrators. As of now, though, I think the layouts that have been reviewed and accepted have been fine.

you're right...there are some that are really quite good. but what can really be considered minimal though? if someone puts a slash brush up and make a box in it, could it be considered minimal or just something that should be rejected?

[superficial]

well i also feel that there are some layouts that are being approved are almost all the same...no originality to them. some even look like something that someone put together while testing out photoshop like:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25957
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25633
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25406
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=25153
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25139

now, i know that i don't make the best layouts either and i understand that we had gotten new admins and such. i'm just curious as to what is going to be done about the ones that are not really up to cb standards?

I don't see anything wrong with those layouts they're posted. At least they're not shit quality and have horrible codings made by a generator (Which shouldn't even be accepted in the first place). I'm sure that the design staffers know what to look for when they're reviewing layouts and other things in queue. And they don't really look like things that were tested. They're actually pretty nice. It actually looks like they tried to make a layout nice, not just slapping something together and making it look like shit.

you're right...there are some that are really quite good. but what can really be considered minimal though? if someone puts a slash brush up and make a box in it, could it be considered minimal or just something that should be rejected?

I don't get how that could be accepted. Putting a slash brush and just having a box isn't even creative at all and doesn't even meet any of the submission requirements. I think this would be considered as minimal seeing as though it's not extreme or anything. It's pretty plain, simple and clean. At least it's still nice and the coding isn't mad either.

[pandora]

just back to check on things before i gotta go again:

i understand that we had gotten new admins and such. i'm just curious as to what is going to be done about the ones that are not really up to cb standards?

as admins (or do you mean design staffers?) we have the highest standards that cb has had in a long while. those layouts arent all that bad (except for the first one which has some rigid lines and will be rejected shortly). just because they're simple does not mean that they are sub par. that's the style of the layout. i have to repeat what Whitney just sad: If you think those are bad, you should see the ones that we do reject.

[Melie]

just back to check on things before i gotta go again:
as admins (or do you mean design staffers?) we have the highest standards that cb has had in a long while.
i have to repeat what Whitney just said: If you think those are bad, you should see the ones that we do reject.

i believe you when you say that lol. and i think that the cb standard is very high because when i first started here, i got so many layouts rejected before i finally got one approved. and i've gotten quite a few disapproved too. but i'm just curious as to how the staff goes about doing this kind of stuff. it's really interesting to me. for now, i think that the staff is doing a awesome job and i would like to say keep up the great work!

[Insurmountable]

well i also feel that there are some layouts that are being approved are almost all the same...no originality to them. some even look like something that someone put together while testing out photoshop like:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25957
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25633
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25406
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=25153
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=25139

now, i know that i don't make the best layouts either and i understand that we had gotten new admins and such. i'm just curious as to what is going to be done about the ones that are not really up to cb standards?

Hmm I kind of agree with you, some of those are really good though I have to say.

The first one isn't that great, even the links don't look like they should be there, with the color they used for them and the font.

Also the last one I think is tacky. The image doesn't seem like it fits with the layout and the size of the images with the size of the header text is just a weird combination I guess you can say.


Now that I've finally been able to see what the third one looked like, I just can't see to many of those people accepted. Maybe a couple, but that is it. I'm one of those people that absolutely loves simplicity. But this just seems to simple. Its one big image slapped on top of a stripped pattern, and the colors just don't seem that good. But of course that is my personal opinion. I just think for such a simple layout it should have better colors that seem more pleasing to the eye. But as I said, I do remember seeing in another post that the designer wanted to submit like 5 more or something like that, but I can't see that many being made and accepted, maybe a couple of course.

[emberfly]

oi. actually, those stripe layouts, i was pretty proud of. i was going to submit atleast 5, but decided i shouldn't push more than i have.
just to explain myself a bit, i was going for something COMPLETELY simple. sometimes, IMO, it's nice to just have a nice catchy layout without dozens of boxes. my friends also usually request one-box DIV's. it's really not like there's a rule with how many DIV boxes are on each layout. plus, it's not as if i just threw it together real quick. the color schemes took a while, then i had to figure out which main color looked best over the stripes, and do the rollovers. i honestly don't think the stripe layouts are that bad. KEEP IN MIND i'm not saying they're amazing or anything like that. i guess it's just a factor of personal taste here?

Even though I'm not staff or anything, I still read through page one. I must totally agree with what everyone on page one, also. I think rockitstudios did a great job on that layout. I know tons of people that really like 1 box divs, me especially. I know my thaught probably doesn't matter, but good job rockitstudios.. I really liked that one.


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please read this:


I got bored (as usual) and decided to look through all the old, old, OLD layouts on createblog. I was curious about why some of my layouts were rejected and why those god-awful layouts were accepted? please go back to page 461+ of the layout pages and look at those awful creations. I'm not saying all of them were bad, but 99/100 were horrific.

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Heck, go back to say page 400+ .. some of them are still god-awful, and a whole lot of them have broken image links.

[MissHygienic]

Emberfly, standards were lower back then. I'm sure CreateBlog was still in its early stages. . .you can't use the past's standards to set the standards now. No one cares about the layouts 400 pages back. Layouts now are much more advanced and with a lot of creativity.

[brooklyneast05]

please read this:
I got bored (as usual) and decided to look through all the old, old, OLD layouts on createblog. I was curious about why some of my layouts were rejected and why those god-awful layouts were accepted? please go back to page 461+ of the layout pages and look at those awful creations. I'm not saying all of them were bad, but 99/100 were horrific.

that question is irrelevant considering it's not even the same staff rejecting your layouts that accepted those. i think you're being extremely dramatic calling layouts god awful and horrific. it's not that big of a deal, standards change from staff to staff, and like whitney said, no one cares about layouts 461 pages back.

your layouts got rejected because they weren't good enough to get accepted. it's pretty simple.

[Insurmountable]

We have done a lot of major house cleanings but I don't think its that big of a deal to waste our time now to go all the way back to where createblog was first starting out and all the layouts that look like completely shit to what people can make now to be rejected. There isn't a need and I don't think anyone is really bothered by them. The point is now, we are making are standards higher and for now on the layouts that are being accepted are going by these higher standards and not by the little ones we had in the past.

[misoshiru]

please read this:
I got bored (as usual) and decided to look through all the old, old, OLD layouts on createblog. I was curious about why some of my layouts were rejected and why those god-awful layouts were accepted? please go back to page 461+ of the layout pages and look at those awful creations. I'm not saying all of them were bad, but 99/100 were horrific.

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Heck, go back to say page 400+ .. some of them are still god-awful, and a whole lot of them have broken image links.

please. if you go back 400+ pages, that was when createblog was in its early stages back in 04. createblog was a much smaller community with its designers still starting out. it's very different from today when many members and designers understand coding much better than before. think of it as when you started out designing. how good were you back then? probably shit. in a way, those designs are like that. not to say that they are shit, but it was when many of the members who submitted their layouts were starting to grasp coding.

[brooklyneast05]

how good were you back then? probably shit.

dude was like 10 years old

[misoshiru]

lol. forreals?

[synatribe]

I can see where digital fragrance is coming from but people have a tendency to make better things once they are appreciated like me, my layouts were crap but once it got accpeted I was so excited and now Im like always submitting to createblog, I was going to loose my interest until I regained confidence.

So my complicated point is that people are still learning and experiencing so although to some people those layout might be"shit" to others its like a miracle that keeps their drives up. I think all layouts should be respected because afterall they were accepeted and I bet all the layout have favorites and even satisfy one person is really fulfilling but I think this thread put some designers down although peopel use "no offense" I find it more offensive when people do that