Log In · Register

 

Debate Rules

Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.

Debate.

6 Pages V  « < 3 4 5 6 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Obama's Religious Background, Does It Matter?
fameONE
post Feb 28 2008, 05:55 AM
Post #101


^_^
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 8,141
Joined: Jan 2005
Member No: 91,466



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 12:29 AM) *
Sounds good for Africa, Asia or some Arab country - but not for the United States of America. I'm not some silly woman all googley-eyed over Barack Hussein Obama (sounds like Osama, doesn't it?) or some self-hating or misguided white person who feels I must vote for the black man to prove to the racist PC masters I'm not racist. Ironically, if Obama wasn't so light-skinned and handsome he wouldn't have made it this far, thanks to Soap Opera conditioning. Just ask Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes.

Even if Senator Obama were qualified to be president, which he clearly is not, Barack Hussein Obama is not one from our White Israelite brethren that Scripture calls for in electing our leaders:

Deuteronomy 17
15 ...you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

Let Senator Obama return to Africa and run for president there, if he pleases, among his own Gentile people, his own kind, his own brothers, rather than hypocritically remain in the United States like others who attend his Black Supremacist church.

Ron Paul is best for every color and creed, but it appears the United States is unworthy of such a leader who would actually uphold the Constitution. Ron Paul would demand and enact change for the better based upon our Constitution - not blather about or impose Socialist fantasies that contradict and undermine it.

"Whom God would destroy, He first sends mad." With the madness of those supporting McCain, and the madness of those supporting abominable Obama (or heinous Hillary), it appears our sins have reached such a point that stinks to High Heaven that God is giving our country over to madness before the German-EU destroys US. If we want Gentiles to rule over us, foreigners will rule over us.


You're so full of shit. rofl1.gif
 
NoSex
post Feb 28 2008, 07:20 AM
Post #102


in the reverb chamber.
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 4,022
Joined: Nov 2005
Member No: 300,308



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 12:29 AM) *
Barack Hussein Obama (sounds like Osama, doesn't it?)


His middle name is Hussein? Like Saddam?! My f**king god!
And, you're right! His last name sounds a bit like Osama! Like, Osama Bin Laden!

My dear god! How could the American people not see this! We're so blind! Dear lord! Save us god! Save us god!
 
illriginal
post Feb 28 2008, 10:58 AM
Post #103


Senior Member
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 6,349
Joined: Aug 2006
Member No: 455,274



QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 27 2008, 11:24 PM) *
wtf? i dont put my hand over my heart either am I unamerican? well f**k you cause guess what...neither do some of our former presidents.



There's some people that aren't really worth arguing with. I laughed at his post about Obama and the pledge allegiance.
 
kryogenix
post Feb 28 2008, 12:30 PM
Post #104


Sarcastic Mr. Know-It-All
******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 2,089
Joined: Dec 2003
Member No: 29



QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 28 2008, 07:20 AM) *
His middle name is Hussein? Like Saddam?! My f**king god!
And, you're right! His last name sounds a bit like Osama! Like, Osama Bin Laden!

My dear god! How could the American people not see this! We're so blind! Dear lord! Save us god! Save us god!


STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN STRAW MAN
 
monster
post Feb 28 2008, 01:08 PM
Post #105


Senior Member
******

Group: Banned
Posts: 1,039
Joined: Apr 2004
Member No: 11,810



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 01:29 AM) *
Sounds good for Africa, Asia or some Arab country - but not for the United States of America. I'm not some silly woman all googley-eyed over Barack Hussein Obama (sounds like Osama, doesn't it?) or some self-hating or misguided white person who feels I must vote for the black man to prove to the racist PC masters I'm not racist. Ironically, if Obama wasn't so light-skinned and handsome he wouldn't have made it this far, thanks to Soap Opera conditioning. Just ask Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes.

Even if Senator Obama were qualified to be president, which he clearly is not, Barack Hussein Obama is not one from our White Israelite brethren that Scripture calls for in electing our leaders:

Deuteronomy 17
15 ...you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

Let Senator Obama return to Africa and run for president there, if he pleases, among his own Gentile people, his own kind, his own brothers, rather than hypocritically remain in the United States like others who attend his Black Supremacist church.

Ron Paul is best for every color and creed, but it appears the United States is unworthy of such a leader who would actually uphold the Constitution. Ron Paul would demand and enact change for the better based upon our Constitution - not blather about or impose Socialist fantasies that contradict and undermine it.

"Whom God would destroy, He first sends mad." With the madness of those supporting McCain, and the madness of those supporting abominable Obama (or heinous Hillary), it appears our sins have reached such a point that stinks to High Heaven that God is giving our country over to madness before the German-EU destroys US. If we want Gentiles to rule over us, foreigners will rule over us.


+9000
 
NoSex
post Feb 28 2008, 04:27 PM
Post #106


in the reverb chamber.
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 4,022
Joined: Nov 2005
Member No: 300,308



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 11:30 AM) *
STRAW MAN


More so just an appeal to ridicule. A straw man argument tends to actually include a refutation. It isn't like I'm even trying to refute anything, let alone a straw argument. I'm just trying to ridicule your argument cause it wasn't even worth considering (part of me still thought it was just a really bad joke).

But, like, were you actually being serious?
 
kryogenix
post Feb 28 2008, 08:57 PM
Post #107


Sarcastic Mr. Know-It-All
******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 2,089
Joined: Dec 2003
Member No: 29



http://www.davidbenariel.org/usa/president-barack-obama.htm

A goldmine.
 
NoSex
post Feb 28 2008, 09:14 PM
Post #108


in the reverb chamber.
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 4,022
Joined: Nov 2005
Member No: 300,308



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 07:57 PM) *


Yeah, I didn't think you were genius enough to write anything so psychotically stupid.
 
fameONE
post Feb 28 2008, 11:21 PM
Post #109


^_^
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 8,141
Joined: Jan 2005
Member No: 91,466



QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 27 2008, 10:24 PM) *
wtf? i dont put my hand over my heart either am I unamerican? well f**k you cause guess what...neither do some of our former presidents.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12845...OBLEM-large.jpg


That is called the position of attention. When not in uniform, military servicemen and former servicemen stand in this position during the national anthem and pledge of allegiance as a sign of respect for the country. The POA is not limited specifically to the military. Many officials of the state and federal agencies also stand at the POA, as opposed to placing their right and over their heart.
 
Heathasm
post Feb 29 2008, 07:38 AM
Post #110


creepy heather
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 4,208
Joined: Aug 2004
Member No: 41,580



i cant believe obama won texas
there is hope for us yet!
 
brooklyneast05
post Feb 29 2008, 07:54 AM
Post #111


I'm Jc
********

Group: Mentor
Posts: 13,619
Joined: Jul 2006
Member No: 437,556



blink.gif
 
fameONE
post Feb 29 2008, 08:34 AM
Post #112


^_^
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 8,141
Joined: Jan 2005
Member No: 91,466



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 28 2008, 07:57 PM) *


A goldmine for the politically and religiously confused. rolleyes.gif
 
*Steven*
post Feb 29 2008, 09:42 AM
Post #113





Guest






QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 29 2008, 07:34 AM) *
A goldmine for the politically and religiously confused. rolleyes.gif

And a trolling goldmine.
 
*yrrnotelekktric*
post Mar 7 2008, 01:47 AM
Post #114





Guest






i`m impressed this thread has had 23,000 + views.
 
brooklyneast05
post Mar 7 2008, 07:26 AM
Post #115


I'm Jc
********

Group: Mentor
Posts: 13,619
Joined: Jul 2006
Member No: 437,556



^ i know, and it doesn't even have female body part name in the title ohmy.gif
 
silent-soul
post Mar 7 2008, 08:28 AM
Post #116


Member
**

Group: Member
Posts: 18
Joined: Feb 2008
Member No: 619,049



Hmm. Well, taking into account Hillary's recent don't-stop-ever smear campaign to make sure that she scared enough people into voting for her, really only shows that she is exactly the kind of person I WOULD NOT in good faith give a vote to, and to be honest- I didn't. Even when the news broke the story that two Clinton volunteer staffers started the 'entire' Obama's a Muslim, Obama Doesn't Pledge, and all of that other crap smear campaign- it still amazes me that people still think that this kind of thing is true.

Yes, I know there is a LARGE majority of morons living in America, and even on the face of the planet, hell- I even served with some while in the military.

As I see it, Obama is really the choice for change in this country, because even if he has no real EXPERIENCE, at least he demonstrated that he can THINK for himself and stand up for what he believes in. Think about it, HE said NO to the war in Iraq, Clinton and McCain both gave thumbs up. Now she wants to reverse her decision and McCain wants to make sure it doesn't stop by having Congress keep funding the war until maybe EVERYONE in the Middle East is dead.

Honestly, this is the BEST TIME for a BLACK PRESIDENT period- mainly because it would help to even out the playing fields again. Our society still hasn't progressed all that far from the times of segregation and racial equality or even prejudice. People who think these things never exist are mainly the ones who never see it in the first place, so they have every reason to think that way.

It's high time a Black person decided to get up and do something, right? And because I agree with his policies and decisions, is why I gave him MY vote.

'Nuff said.
 
brooklyneast05
post Mar 7 2008, 11:48 AM
Post #117


I'm Jc
********

Group: Mentor
Posts: 13,619
Joined: Jul 2006
Member No: 437,556



QUOTE(silent-soul @ Mar 7 2008, 09:28 AM) *
Our society still hasn't progressed all that far from the times of segregation and racial equality or even prejudice.

i don't know what world you're living in to think that society hasn't really progressed that far.

maybe the delusional woe is me let me tell you how hard it is to be a black man world?


shrugs. i think society has progressed considerably far, and as a black man, i'm glad. i'm not saying everything is perfect, but i think it's inaccurate to say it hasn't really progressed all that far.
 
illriginal
post Mar 7 2008, 12:26 PM
Post #118


Senior Member
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 6,349
Joined: Aug 2006
Member No: 455,274



QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:48 AM) *
i don't know what world you're living in to think that society hasn't really progressed that far.

maybe the delusional woe is me let me tell you how hard it is to be a black man world?
shrugs. i think society has progressed considerably far, and as a black man, i'm glad. i'm not saying everything is perfect, but i think it's inaccurate to say it hasn't really progressed all that far.




Actually it would progress a lot further but it seems that the black families and community leaders tend to pull out the race card out on anything that may seem unfair. Instead of teaching the youth to become American men and women, they teach them how to defend their race/skin color and be racist against the white race.


I predict that if Obama loses the presidency, it will be YOUR people who will riot the streets of America. Claiming racism while destroyin their own neighborhoods.
 
fameONE
post Mar 7 2008, 11:37 PM
Post #119


^_^
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 8,141
Joined: Jan 2005
Member No: 91,466



QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 7 2008, 11:26 AM) *
Actually it would progress a lot further but it seems that the black families and community leaders tend to pull out the race card out on anything that may seem unfair. Instead of teaching the youth to become American men and women, they teach them how to defend their race/skin color and be racist against the white race.


Way to generalize an entire race, buddy. If you're going to say something like that, back it up. I'm well aware of some of the supposed "Black leaders," who continue to gripe about reparations, but lets be real; that's not a commonplace thought amongst Black people, so you can't even step up with that argument.

QUOTE
I predict that if Obama loses the presidency, it will be YOUR people who will riot the streets of America. Claiming racism while destroyin their own neighborhoods.


What a racist statement. Point the finger at Black people, accuse them of being racist by claiming that others are being racist, then make a racist statement yourself; that doesn't make sense at all.

 
*yrrnotelekktric*
post Mar 8 2008, 05:27 PM
Post #120





Guest






QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 7 2008, 05:26 AM) *
^ i know, and it doesn't even have female body part name in the title ohmy.gif

or male mellow.gif
 
angel-roh
post Mar 13 2008, 03:17 PM
Post #121


i'm susan
********

Group: Official Member
Posts: 13,875
Joined: Feb 2004
Member No: 5,029



For all I know, after the 9/11 a lot of people are against Muslims. Even the people I know talks crap about Muslim people. But I have a lot of Muslim friends and I think they are nice and cool to hang out with them. Just cause of the 9/11 incident, people pick on muslims. Not all muslims are like that, but still people tend to do it. Why is that? Are they trying to attract attentions? Probably so.

I was wondering, is President George Bush a Christian? o__o

Well, I guess religious based doesn't matter. But to people, yeah. RELIGIOUS IS TAKING OVER THE WORLD!! Well already has.
 
kryogenix
post Mar 13 2008, 11:13 PM
Post #122


Sarcastic Mr. Know-It-All
******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 2,089
Joined: Dec 2003
Member No: 29



Barack Obama's pastor said that Blacks should be saying God Damn America instead of God Bless America.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id...3788&page=1
 
NoSex
post Mar 13 2008, 11:17 PM
Post #123


in the reverb chamber.
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 4,022
Joined: Nov 2005
Member No: 300,308



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 13 2008, 10:13 PM) *
Barack Obama's pastor said that Blacks should be saying God Damn America instead of God Bless America.


Although I don't believe in god, I empathize with the sentiment.


 
BadCraziness
post Mar 29 2008, 04:21 AM
Post #124


nicola
***

Group: Member
Posts: 66
Joined: Mar 2008
Member No: 635,560



I don't really care about his religion so long as it doesn't get in the way of his presidency, which it won't. From watching the campaign I can gather that he's not that religious of a person.

As opposed to Mike Huckabee, who would spend his presidency trying to induce the rapture and the public flogging of homosexuals, for all we know.



Looking at who it's come down to... Hillary, McCain, and Obama, I'd have to side with Obama.

McCain is pretty much a crazy fascist nut who wants to remain in Iraq for 100 more years. And I hate how he keeps trying to pander to conservatives when he's not conservative at all. The only real conservative who's run in this entire election is Ron Paul.

Hillary accepts so much money from lobbyists that I could never be able to trust her. Plus it really annoys me that she stopped trying to get universal health care when the insurance companies gave her enough money to shut her up. And she keeps flip-flopping and contradicting herself all over the place.

Obama I like because of his foreign, education, and health care policies.
 
illriginal
post Mar 29 2008, 04:45 AM
Post #125


Senior Member
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 6,349
Joined: Aug 2006
Member No: 455,274



QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 8 2008, 12:37 AM) *
Way to generalize an entire race, buddy. If you're going to say something like that, back it up. I'm well aware of some of the supposed "Black leaders," who continue to gripe about reparations, but lets be real; that's not a commonplace thought amongst Black people, so you can't even step up with that argument.

Have you not been paying attention to the news? Shit I listen to 610AM and that alone gives me right to my opinion.
QUOTE
What a racist statement. Point the finger at Black people, accuse them of being racist by claiming that others are being racist, then make a racist statement yourself; that doesn't make sense at all.


So are you saying that if Obama loses... some how some way, that the black population will not riot because they believe they cheated Obama out of presidency? I'm not sayin it's gonna happen for sure, but there's a tension right now in America. A lot of shit is causing our country to split up/divide right now. And the main thing is this stupid ass Pastor (which deserves to be killed for his racist brain washin) that Obama was involved with 20 years.

I'm definitely not tryin to be racist bro.
 

6 Pages V  « < 3 4 5 6 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: