ron paul Options

[brooklyneast05]

Speaking of extremists who target the U.S, Paul said, "They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We've been in the Middle East [for years]. I think (Ronald) Reagan was right. We don't understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. Right now, we're building an embassy in Iraq that is bigger than the Vatican. We're building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting."

i thought it was interesting. i've never looked at it from that perspective.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Yeah, I don't agree with Paul on a lot of things, but I do think he makes good points on foreign policy.

[jaeman]

He makes a good point, though.

[brooklyneast05]

Yeah, I don't agree with Paul on a lot of things, but I do think he makes good points on foreign policy.

that's exactly how i am about him

[fameONE]

On this subject, I completely agree with him.

I know for a fact that, among Marines, its looked at as less of a war and more of a shitty duty station where you'll get the oppportunity to defend yourself from suicide bombers and IEDs.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Let's keep discussing politics. I need to say that I think Romney seems like a complete douche, because I'm going to political science in about an hour, and I can't be too obnoxiously opinionated in there because a) I need a good grade, and b) there's no one in there who seems to care as much as me, and in effect, no one to even have a decent argument with if I thought I could get away with it.

But really, Romney seems so insincere. To begin with, I thought he looked so much like a politician that it was creepy, and I think that initial impression was fairly accurate. Creepy isn't exactly the right term anymore, but it's unnerving that people are voting for this guy. Kerry got shit for being a flip flopper, but Romney can't even keep his positions straight from one day to the next, and frankly I like his positions (which seem more sincere) that he thinks will prevent him from getting the nomination better than those he's technically running on. But if you read about speeches he made in New Hampshire and then watch the New Hampshire debates, it's like he was a completely different person. On television he seems like such an a-hole. I'm not even trying to be unbiased here obviously, but he takes on all these really conservative viewpoints and attacks his opponents that are essentially the same as his own, or that he used to have. It's hard even to say what his views are, though, because they contradict each other, and the more consistent and publicized ones don't seem to be sincere. Electing him would be essentially like it was electing Bush. I think he'd probably make a better president than Bush by merit of being more intelligent of him, but it'd be similar in the sense that one would vote for him under the impression that he would govern in a certain way, when in actuality that impression was completely misleading. While you never really know what you're going to get in a candidate, at least vote for someone with consistency. I don't want a president who's going to stand blindly by his or her views, but changes in opinion need to be justified to show that they're more genuine than to just try to fit a certain constituency.

[brooklyneast05]

^ i agree. romney confuses me, i never can figure out what i think about him because of that.


p.s. thanks for being one of the few who replies in my topics that have anything to do with politics!

[brooklyneast05]

also the fact that romney is pro-life is a turn off for me

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

WHY does it say a-hole when I type asshole (or ass hole)??? I don't say "a-hole." And I don't approve of whole word censorship, goddammit (but I can say "goddammit"?).

Haha, you're welcome. I like politics, and I wish more people would discuss them on here.

Yeah, I'm pro-choice too, but I figure that comes with being a Republican (and not Giuliani). One of the reasons I won't vote for any of them. However, that was one of the things that Romney's flipped on. He was elected Mass's governor being pro-choice.

I also don't like the term pro-life. I'm not anti-life. I'm inclined to say that being pro-choice, I am more pro-life than the pro-lifers, given that I support the rights and lives of those who are actually ALIVE.

[brooklyneast05]

you beat the system


yeah his flip on that issue annoys me. also, the fact that he was in support a few years back of getting rid of bush's ban on federal funding for stem cell research, supposedly he now supports it. so who even knows what his actual views on the issues are. he's flipped his positions in the last couple years, who's to say he isn't going to do it again in the next few if he was in the white house. i'd prefer to think i'm gonna get what i vote for, not the opposite when he spontaneously changes his stance.

that's not to say i think it's an awful thing to change your position, but i duno. i just personally think he switching to the wrong side on things.

I also don't like the term pro-life. I'm not anti-life. I'm inclined to say that being pro-choice, I am more pro-life than the pro-lifers, given that I support the rights and lives of those who are actually ALIVE.

LOL, i like that

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

It seems like all his opinion changes were hand picked to make him look as conservative as possible.

[rnicron]

WHY does it say a-hole when I type asshole (or ass hole)??? I don't say "a-hole." And I don't approve of whole word censorship, goddammit (but I can say "goddammit"?).

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ass[b][/b]hole

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[*CowerPointyObjects*]

I used to just make half the word black, for like fuck and whatever, but it quotes strangely. The text normally doesn't even really look black either, for that matter.

Reason for edit: deleted your double post - Jc

[fameONE]

I actually like Ron Paul.