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Its inevitable....but when??
Azn Kid from NY
post Feb 18 2005, 03:33 PM
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we all know that eventually humans will have to deal with some crazy stuff like overpopulation, decaying of the environment, global warming, and running out of fossil fuels and resources.....the fact is that we're feeling the early affects of alot of these lately....

but how soon will it take to become a huge problem that affects our lives directly?? in our lifetime maybe??.....
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 03:56 PM
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#1 - we already ARE dealing with overpopulation. maybe not in america, but in other parts of the world. [ie: CHINA]

#2 - global warming is an issue that is affecting us. maybe not as much as it could...but it is. hence- in new jersey, the weather is all f**ked up. [i dont know about other areas] one day it is 70 degrees [IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY] and then the next day it is below zero.

#3 - running out of fuels: i have no idea when that will start to be a problem. that's why we should start making almost ALL cars run on something that isn't gasoline. sooner or later, we won't have any choice.
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 07:06 PM
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fuel wont be a problem in about 40 years almost every car will be solar powered.
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 07:51 PM
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i doubt it will happen in our lifetime but with how the world is now, i can only imagine what will happen. pinch.gif
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 07:52 PM
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The Day After Tomorrow... The Tsunami...

It's a warning....
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 11:05 PM
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you mean the end of the world? the mayans predicted it to be december 23, 2012. but its crazy. and that huuuge asteroid that could potentially harm the earth isn't planning to hit us anytime soon, so environmentally, and i guess our resources will run out faster than we think. everything else, will come later...
 
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post Feb 20 2005, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(karrar @ Feb 18 2005, 6:06 PM)
fuel wont be a problem in about 40 years almost every car will be solar powered.
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cars will never be solar powered.

solar cells do produce enough amperes to drive a car, much less an SUV.


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the mayans predicted it to be december 23, 2012



really? because i predicted it to 2013... in the spring.
 
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post Feb 20 2005, 03:47 PM
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everyone has said it. the debate isn't 'will it happen' its 'what are we gonna do about it'

these things are all REAL. NOW.

and the first thing that needs to happen is american signing, and sticking to the kyoto agreement. there is no other way to save the planet!
 
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post Feb 20 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 20 2005, 2:35 PM)
really?  because i predicted it to 2013...  in the spring.
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you again, azn kid? this is also more like an essay prompt..we can't guess when it will happen..we're not scientists..
 
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post Feb 21 2005, 05:03 PM
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that was just something i did in the 6th grade.... i decided on a day the world would end, and i'd tell everyone that.

it was a very good i-a-too-good-for-you-prep-you're-weird deterrant.

now it's just for fun.



the kyoto agreement is still not enough.

president Bush's clean air act increases air pollution, by letting old factories pollute more, if they're not updated more than 1/3 a year.

in three years you could have a new power plant polluting like hell.

things stay. Ozone degrading chemicals, although they weren't used anymore around the 70s (or so) , are still in the ozone. it will take years to go away.

the earth still needs to purge the chemicals we've put.

passivly stopping isn't going to work.

we need to activley heal the earth.
 
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post Feb 21 2005, 05:06 PM
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Just hope its after I die.
 
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post Feb 21 2005, 06:01 PM
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the kyoto agreement is still not enough.


it is a step in the right direction, though.
 
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post Feb 21 2005, 10:47 PM
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we're already bombing iraq for fossil fuel.
none of the republicans in office care about global warming
as for overpopulation, capitolism will be this era's form of natural selection. all the poor will die.

btw, the myans predicted the end will happen on december 21st, 2012.

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post Feb 22 2005, 01:34 AM
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hahaha global warming.... not in our lifetime. I guarantee it.

Besides, if you've ever seen a graph of different iceages over time, you'll see that the weather changed a lot even before humans had any harmful chemicals, and that happened over the course of a few thousand years. You cant really say "omg global warming" when there is evidence that the earth changes its temperature on its own random schedule.
 
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post Feb 22 2005, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(blackbow @ Feb 22 2005, 12:34 AM)
hahaha  global warming....  not in our lifetime.  I guarantee it.

Besides, if you've ever seen a graph of different iceages over time, you'll see that the weather changed a lot even before humans had any harmful chemicals, and that happened over the course of a few thousand years.  You cant really say "omg global warming"  when there is evidence that the earth changes its temperature on its own random schedule.
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umm... that is global warming...

the earth changes it's own temperature... but it's changing much faster than it's suppost to.


the climate changes of the past took thousands of year to happen.

this one is happening immediatly.

see all the new storms in the United States?
yup...
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 11:25 AM
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i think that the debate forum should be renamed as the 'pose a random topic and discuss it' forum. random comment. and there is little accomplishment with the kyoto protocol. i say, people, stop worrying about it and leave it up to the scientists, who know far more than we do.
 
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post Feb 26 2005, 04:11 PM
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About the whole energy source thing.....

my boyfriend is working on building a hydrolysis engine from a spare 1988 SAAB 9000 Turbo engine. So far, it's working, and he has sucessfully separated water into hydrogen and oxygen, and he can run the engine from water, and the output is water. His only problem is the combustablilty of the Oxygen and the Hydrogen when they are separate. (if there is a crash or something in the car.)

He was thinking that by taking the technology of the impending rollover bars in the new SAAB convertable, and applying it to have it so if there was a crash, or a dent being make in the car, then the hydrogen and oxygen tanks would instanly depressorize.

But anyway, you can all visit www.infotrac.galegroup.com . They ask for a username and password.....and I'll give you my school's. They provide real articles on any sort of information you could need on any topic. It's amazing.

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post Feb 26 2005, 04:35 PM
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#1 - we already ARE dealing with overpopulation. maybe not in america, but in other parts of the world. [ie: CHINA]

There's always a surprising increase in population, but something always comes along to balance it out. I forget what it's called. pinch.gif It's always happened in China throughout the centuries.
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#2 - global warming is an issue that is affecting us. maybe not as much as it could...but it is. hence- in new jersey, the weather is all f**ked up. [i dont know about other areas] one day it is 70 degrees [IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY] and then the next day it is below zero.

That's most likely because of the tsunami. The earth was tilted by...ack. I can't remember that, either. Like two centimeters or less I believe. I can't remember. Also, back in the seventies, there was the threat of global freezing. That never happened.
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#3 - running out of fuels: i have no idea when that will start to be a problem. that's why we should start making almost ALL cars run on something that isn't gasoline. sooner or later, we won't have any choice.

Scientists are working now to create synthetic elements and other solar-powered things (as the post below yours states); I don't think that's really too much of an issue at hand.
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i doubt it will happen in our lifetime but with how the world is now, i can only imagine what will happen.

Yes, I highly doubt it, too.
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The Day After Tomorrow... The Tsunami...

It's a warning....

The Day After Tomorrow (as much as I love Jake) was simply another propaganda action to make people vote against Bush.
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you mean the end of the world? the mayans predicted it to be december 23, 2012. but its crazy. and that huuuge asteroid that could potentially harm the earth isn't planning to hit us anytime soon, so environmentally, and i guess our resources will run out faster than we think. everything else, will come later...

Really? The Mayans predicted that? Hmm. Oh and the sun is due to burn out a long time from now. That might kill us. laugh.gif
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cars will never be solar powered.

solar cells do produce enough amperes to drive a car, much less an SUV.

You never know what scientists will develop in the future.
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president Bush's clean air act increases air pollution, by letting old factories pollute more, if they're not updated more than 1/3 a year.

in three years you could have a new power plant polluting like hell.

things stay. Ozone degrading chemicals, although they weren't used anymore around the 70s (or so) , are still in the ozone. it will take years to go away.

the earth still needs to purge the chemicals we've put.

passivly stopping isn't going to work.

we need to activley heal the earth.

Yeah, this is definitely something I strongly disagree with Bush for. We need to do something even if the threat doesn't seem as bad now. I mean, we need to focus on possibly smaller steps. I don't think we should focus all of our energy on this, but I do believe we need to be aware of the future.
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About the whole energy source thing.....

my boyfriend is working on building a hydrolysis engine from a spare 1988 SAAB 9000 Turbo engine. So far, it's working, and he has sucessfully separated water into hydrogen and oxygen, and he can run the engine from water, and the output is water. His only problem is the combustablilty of the Oxygen and the Hydrogen when they are separate. (if there is a crash or something in the car.)

He was thinking that by taking the technology of the impending rollover bars in the new SAAB convertable, and applying it to have it so if there was a crash, or a dent being make in the car, then the hydrogen and oxygen tanks would instanly depressorize.

But anyway, you can all visit www.infotrac.galegroup.com . They ask for a username and password.....and I'll give you my school's. They provide real articles on any sort of information you could need on any topic. It's amazing.

USERNAME: marysvillehs
PASSWORD monarchs

That's pretty nifty. Tell your boyfriend thank you for me. _smile.gif
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 04:25 PM
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if you put a frog in a pot of cold water, then gradually heat it, it will just burn to death in boiling water because it doesnt know when its too hot and it has to jump out. (no, i havent tried this). if you think of it, humans are pretty much the same. we are the frog, the earth is the pot of water. we are abusing natural resources, causing global warming, and basically digging our own graves as fast as its humanly possible. by the time that the world's leaders realize they should do something for the benefit of future generations actually ever existing, and not for their own short-term benefits (as in money, cough cough bush, halliburton), it will be waaay too late to save the human species. wen is it gonna happen? i'd say probably by 3 generations' time, if we don't first blow up everyone in a mass-nuclear-war.

call me a ranting satirical psychopathic maniac-depressive teen if ya want, this is just my opinion that you would probly rather live without, the opinion of a disturbed 13-year-old

by the way, haven't you people read "Brave New World" and "Brave New World Revisited"? if you haven't, i advise you do if you feel strongly about this subject...
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 04:45 PM
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^ okay, i've been scared by anti-utopian novels, also. just because you read brave new world doesn't mean that you have to be suddenly so paranoid about everything making society collapse.

and i think that technology is moving at a steady speed.. when uh.. "the frog" that is mankind is ready to blow up in the pot, we will probably have the technology to further our species. if not, then we blow up. end of the world. huzzah. it was probably inevitable, anyway.
 

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