Official Music Elitists Club, To be used in conjunction with Official Film Snobs Club Options

[breakingdawn]

Lets relax-o on El spam-o.

Diana doesn't want to take the Mod whip out.

Sorry


Okay, let's get back on topic. Basically, this group is for people who only like music by how it sounds, but only if no one's ever heard of it before. I wouldn't doubt that AThorpedo or whatever the hell her (or his?) name is has never had a single class of music appreciation or studied an instrument, and judges their music solely by how it sounds. If (s)he doesn't like the way your music sounds, it's because it's not up to the standards that she herself set because she is fooling herself into thinking that she is a musical expert. (Sorry, I gave up on determining your sex and just chose female because I like the way it sounds.) So if you like any of these mystery bands that have mysteriously not made it big yet (I wonder why), and like to deny people their rights to enjoy their music, just because you don't like it, this is the group for you!


I apologize for the rant, I just really hate pretentious people.

[dustbunny]

^ damn you beat me to it. i wanted to leave a whole fatty paragraph on the stupidity of this thread, but i ended up just explaining my opinion with that segment of color preference.

I apologize for the rant, I just really hate pretentious people.

especially those that think their own opinions or preference MEAN shit.

if everyone liked the same artists you did, would you still like those artists? would that even make yourself unique or stand out from other people?



and who are you to say your music taste is some sort of STANDARD. gtfo

[Tung]

^ Thank you. I wanted to say that, but didn't know how to word it. Thanks again Lauren.

ps. hows that one kid from yesterday ey? you guys on the next level yet ;D ;D

[breakingdawn]

^ Thank you. I wanted to say that, but didn't know how to word it. Thanks again Lauren.

ps. hows that one kid from yesterday ey? you guys on the next level yet ;D ;D

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

No, kids, no. Taking the time to explore different types of music and more obscure artists is a GOOD thing, whereas assuming that something is good simply because it's popular is certainly not. Why settle for mediocre music you only think you enjoy just because it's easy to come by? If you only listen to mainstream artists, and when you do try to find new music, you only pick up on bands that sound exactly the same as the stuff you already listen to, that isn't taste. Being open-minded enough to find music you genuinely like is a great thing, but if you pass it off as pretension then you're pretty much hopeless.

You can't assume that something is good or bad from whether it is popular or not. Yes, listen to what you like, but put effort into finding the music that suits you best, and don't settle for something simply because it's catchy and easily accessible.

[Tung]

Kids? I'm f**ken older than you are. STFU.

[breakingdawn]

No, kids, no. Taking the time to explore different types of music and more obscure artists is a GOOD thing, whereas assuming that something is good simply because it's popular is certainly not. Why settle for mediocre music you only think you enjoy just because it's easy to come by? If you only listen to mainstream artists, and when you do try to find new music, you only pick up on bands that sound exactly the same as the stuff you already listen to, that isn't taste. Being open-minded enough to find music you genuinely like is a great thing, but if you pass it off as pretension then you're pretty much hopeless.

You can't assume that something is good or bad from whether it is popular or not. Yes, listen to what you like, but put effort into finding the music that suits you best, and don't settle for something simply because it's catchy and easily accessible.

I see what your saying, and yeah, I agree, but being denied admittance simply because your "top 20" don't coincide with AThorpedo's is really...shitty. I'm not arguing that finding said music is pretentious, I'm saying that Athorpedo is for setting unreasonable standards.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Kids? I'm f**ken older than you are. STFU.

No you aren't even.

I see what your saying, and yeah, I agree, but being denied admittance simply because your "top 20" don't coincide with AThorpedo's is really...shitty. I'm not arguing that finding said music is pretentious, I'm saying that Athorpedo is for setting unreasonable standards.

Oh yeah, sure. It's quite silly, but I felt the need to say that because we were getting into defense of shitty music territory, and that's no good.

[Tung]

Lol? Hasn't Josh already put you on blast enough? Don't get started with me.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Get you started? All you said was that you're older than me, which you aren't (or at least can't be by more than a few months).

[Tung]

Okay then. I'm older than you by a few months. So don't f**ken call me a kid. I don't take that lightly. It's like me calling you a white girl who has a mustache and needs to wax it. But do you see me calling you that? No. So stfu.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

That isn't even analogous. And not just because I wasn't referring to you in particular.

[*Michelle*]

Hmm, I kind of agree with CowerPointyObject's point, but I also think that this club is mislabled.

A music elitist, in my opinion, should have an extensive knowledge of music including all genres; he/she would not restrict herself to mainstream or a certain few genres of music. Therefore, most of us are not eligible for such a title (myself included).

Anyways... Top 20 artists

1 The Birthday Massacre
2 The Beatles
3 Crystal Castles
4 The Cranberries
5 Dido
6 Eisley
7 Freezepop
8 Goldfrapp
9 Ladytron
10 LCD Sounsystem (album) - LCD Soundsystem
11 Metric
12 No Doubt
13 Queen
14 Red Hot Chili Peppers (also enjoy John Frusciante's solo work)
15 Robots in Disguise
16 System of a Down
17 Tori Amos
18 Vanessa Carlton
19 Yeah Yeah Yeahs
20 I'll leave this for bands I'm getting into: Soulwax, Feist, MSTRKRFT, Captain Ahab, The Pipettes, Shiny Toy Guns, Princess Superstar, Dragonette

[Tung]

^ I LOVE EISLEY!

[dustbunny]

A music elitist, in my opinion, should have an extensive knowledge of music including all genres; he/she would not restrict herself to mainstream or a certain few genres of music. Therefore, most of us are not eligible for such a title (myself included).

agreed. i mean, what if i made a list of classical composers; would you be able to judge my music taste/knowledge or whatever?

music is too broad; if you were an elitist you'd probably have to have gone to a music school and studied extensively and have a ph.d in music theology

[Simba]

I'm all about exploring music, from underground, to the abstract, to mainstream. But musical elitism? Gah dang.

if you were an elitist you'd probably have to have gone to a music school and studied extensively and have a ph.d in music theology

Ha ha, not even. =P

[AThorpedo]

Are you people insane? How insecure and defensive towards your taste in music do you have to be in order to take this so damned seriously? In order to know anything about music I would have to major in music? Is it really that hard to believe that it is possible to appreciate music and explore it without taking f**king classes for it? As opposed to listening to tons and tons of music for years and years, I have to have a doctorate in music before I can say that I probably know more than you? Are any of you even reading what you are typing? Do you know how marketing music works? How familiar with tongue-in-cheek humor are you, really?

I don't know if it wasn't obvious enough that I wasn't completely serious, even mocking myself at points when I ended a post with something like, "REPRESENT TRU PUNX" but wow do you guys take things seriously. Even my inital post said, "We will be a bowel irritation with a dope record collection." I told that tung idiot that he should be called Mario because he just got one up'd. None of this struck any of you as just a little silly? I can understand being even a little offended by this, but I don't feel like I was being exceptionally cryptic here.

I'm not going to lie, I was a little proud that I was able to embody so much chaos with just one thread telling people that I have better taste than them, but now I'm more confused than anything. I honestly wanted to continue on with this, I really did. I was going to keep telling you guys how you should stop listening to music, and I was going to have a grand old time. It just went over pretty much everybody's head, though.

"If my list isn't like yours, you would just tell me I have shitty taste rarararar." Like, three of you actually tried. Considering how defensive everyone got regarding this issue, I really should have seen more lists. You all obviously feel some sort of passion for the music you like, based on your reactions, so why didn't you give it a shot? If I could at least tell that you were open to exploring music, liked things that are a little different from the norm, and if I could find something respectable regarding your taste, it wouldn't have been this bad. Instead, you just assumed that I was going to hate what you put no matter what. How presumptuous and insecure. Stop being so serious and get silly.

I still want to keep this going. I want to see more lists. I want some opinions of my list after someone has actually listened to the majority of the albums/bands instead of just assuming it's bad. (For the record, if I said you listened to bad bands, it's because I have listened to them; I didn't write them off before hearing them. "It's obscure for a reason." Yeah, because there is no profit to be had in a 3-song E.P. performed by a homeless, alcoholic punk f**ked up on drugs. A band that is a mixture of hardcore punk, screamo, and freeform jazz is not marketable in the least. That's how the industry works, guys.) This can still be fun. Like I said. Stop being so serious and get silly. If you guys feel that sore about it, tell me to make a top 20 for something you are passionate about. I don't know shit about cars. Tell me why I shouldn't be allowed to drive one on the basis that my favorite cars are lame. I don't know shit about fish. Tell me why I'm an idiot for liking those little fish that suck on the sides of the tank. I don't drink. Punch me in the face and tell me that I just need to lighten up and go to a few parties, brah.

I don't want to post this. I want to go back to having fun. I think less of myself for posting this. I don't owe you anything; there is no need for me to explain myself to any of you. So, in other words...

YOU ALL HAVE HORRIBLE TASTE IN MUSIC. MY OPINION IS ABSOLUTE. UP THE PUNX.
I wonder how many of you will get it now.

[NoSex]

YOU ALL HAVE HORRIBLE TASTE IN MUSIC. MY OPINION IS ABSOLUTE. UP THE PUNX.
I wonder how many of you will get it now.

YOUR TASTE IN FILM IS AWFUL. MY OPINION ABOVE ALL. NEEDS MORE DONNIE DARKO.

I would be surprised if we made it into double digits.

[*alovesopure*]

To put it simply, they just represent a lot of what I don't like about music. I hate their sytle of music. There isn't a whole lot to "post-hardcore" that I can actually say I enjoy; it pretty much extends to me thoroughly enjoying Blood Brothers and At the Drive-In, in other words, the two post-hardcore bands that everybody likes. I also hate how blatantly Christian they are. I am sour towards post-hardcore, I am sour towards Christian rock. I can say one good thing about them, though: the vocalist isn't terrible. All other factors aside, I do enjoy the vocals.

Oh, and I am enemies with Tooth and Nail records.

Hahahahaha wowww.

No, kids, no. Taking the time to explore different types of music and more obscure artists is a GOOD thing, whereas assuming that something is good simply because it's popular is certainly not. Why settle for mediocre music you only think you enjoy just because it's easy to come by? If you only listen to mainstream artists, and when you do try to find new music, you only pick up on bands that sound exactly the same as the stuff you already listen to, that isn't taste. Being open-minded enough to find music you genuinely like is a great thing, but if you pass it off as pretension then you're pretty much hopeless.

You can't assume that something is good or bad from whether it is popular or not. Yes, listen to what you like, but put effort into finding the music that suits you best, and don't settle for something simply because it's catchy and easily accessible.

agreed 100%

Michelle - You like Ladytron!? Amaaazing.
I also love Eisley and Freezepop.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Actually, I had every intention of posting a list, but I got distracted and never got around to it.

But as I am a procrastinator extraordinare, here is a list for you (in no particular order).

1. The New Pornographers- Twin Cinema
-You've establshed your distaste for power-pop, but nevertheless, this album is power-pop perfection, and I love it.
2. Pavement- Brighten the Corners
-I don't care that Slanted and Enchanted is more acclaimed, I prefer this one. Although you really can't go wrong with Pavement at all.
3. Regina Spektor- Mary Ann Meets The Gravediggers And Other Short Stories
-Yeah, it's technically a compilation, but I prefer it as an album to the rest of Regina's stuff. Her most recent album isn't worth acknowledging.
4. Jens Lekman- Oh You're So Silent Jens
-Swedish God. Mhm.
5. Sonic Youth- Goo
6. Yann Tiersen- Yann Tiersen and Shannon Wright
-I discovered this particular album fairly recently, but it struck me more than most anything else has recently.
7. The Postal Service- Give Up
-It doesn't matter what you think of Ben Gibbard; I still adore this album.
8. The Magnetic Fields- I
9. Joanna Newsom- The Milk-Eyed Mender
-No, I don't read Pitchfork. I took a couple of listens to appreciate her voice, but it's amazing.
10. Laura Veirs- Year of Meteors
11. Ted Leo and the Phamacists- Hearts of Oak
12. The Notwist- Neon Golden
13. My Bloody Valentine- Loveless
14. Modest Mouse- The Moon and Antarctica
15. The Cure- Boys Don't Cry
16. France Gall- Poupée de Son
17. The Shins- Oh, Inverted World
18. The Books- Lost and Safe
19. Fiona Apple- Tidal
-What can I say, it got me through my radio rejection period.
20. Neutral Milk Hotel- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
-Sure, it's cliche at this point, but still lovely.


I figured albums would be more interesting than just a random selection of 20 bands I like, but it's really hard because a lot of my favorite songs aren't on what I'd consider to be my favorite overall album by an artist.

[Tung]

YOU ALL HAVE HORRIBLE TASTE IN MUSIC. MY OPINION IS ABSOLUTE. UP THE PUNX.
I wonder how many of you will get it now.

ARE YOU f**kEN KIDDING ME? GTFO OF HERE

[NoSex]

Here are some albums, in no particular order.

1. Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death (Alternative Tentacles, 1987)
2. Joanna Newsom -The Milk-Eyed Mender (Drag City, 2004)
3. Andrew Jackson Jihad / Ghost Mice split (Plan-It-X, 2007)
4. Blood Brothers, The - ...Burn, Piano Island, Burn (V2 Records, 2003)
5. Anthology of American Folk Music (Smithsonian Folkways, 1952)
6. Venetian Snares - Rossz csillag alatt született (Planet Mu, 2005)
7. Minor Threat - Complete Discography (Dischord, 1989)
8. Mars Volta, The - De-Loused in the Comatorium (Gold Standard Laboratories, 2003)
9. Michael Jordan Touchdown Pass - Cash, Money, Etc. (Spare Change, 2006)
10. An Albatross - We Are The Lazer Viking (Ace Fu Records, 2003)
11. Locust, The - Plague Soundscapes (ANTI-, 2003)
12. Bikini Kill - The C.D. Version of the First Two Records (Kill Rock Stars, 1994)
13. Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains - Caught in the Act of not Being Awesome (Spare Change, ?)
14. Ghost Mice - The Debt of the Dead (Plan-It-X, 2004)
15. Microphones, The - Mount Eerie (K Records, 2003)
16. Pink and Brown - Shame Fantasy II (Load Records, 2003)
17. Ramones - Self titled (Sire Records, 1976)
18. Los Gatos Negros - Self Titled (Plan-It-X, ?)
19. Soophie Nun Squad - Passion Slays the Dragon (Harlan/Plan-it-X/Narshardaa, 2003)
20. Number Twelve Looks Like You, The - Put on Your Rosy Red Glasses (Brutal Records, 2003)

This took longer than I expected it to. Oh, well.
Here is a list I'm decently happy with, expect it to change in a month. Thank you.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

I went with more all-time than current favorites. That list would change way too frequently.

[*Michelle*]

Huh? I thought most people did give a list. I see quite a few, and I gave my own.

[NoSex]

I went with more all-time than current favorites. That list would change way too frequently.

I tried for a happy synthesis of the two.
My musical interests are very pliable, it's just in my nature.