Mod Punishment Options

[*tripvertigo*]

We all know what happens when members break the rules, and whatnot. Warnings, Mutings, Suspensions, Bans...

What should happen to a moderator if they are out of line?

[*ersatz*]

What's the case? What did they do wrong? It depends on the situation.

[*tripvertigo*]

Lets say they warned you for no f**kin reason.

[*ersatz*]

If they seriously just warned someone out of nowhere, they should probably do a little 3-day not-a-mod thing and take a breather.

[1angel3]

I assume Micron would take care that.

[*tripvertigo*]

Ok now lets say they have a reason for warning you but they're wrong.


HYPOTHETICALLY

[*tripvertigo*]

"handle it"

See i dont see how their "Punishment" would just be to be demodded for 3 days or so.

Do moderators not get suspended and warned like the rest of us?

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

I assume Micron would take care that.

LMFAO! you're wrong.

we kind of asked the same thing, like why elba and i were warned for 2 weeks and demoted from our official member status, when robbi and diana did the same thing and only took a week off of their moderating duties.

[*mzkandi*]

Ok now lets say they have a reason for warning you but they're wrong.
HYPOTHETICALLY

People make mistakes. I've certainly made them during my "career" as a mod. You take note of the mistake, analyze what you did wrong, and work up from there.

[sadolakced acid]

people make mistakes, but somehow that doesn't seem to work as an excuse when you're a mere member.

[sadolakced acid]

Wouldn't hurt to have some actual guidelines for punishing mods though.

you know, set rules.

It's something the bylaws should have taken care of if people had actually finished it.

[*mzkandi*]

Um. We did finish the bylaws and had them officially written up a long time ago here. (Did you edit? You mentioned something about the bylaws not being finished). It's just that the topic of mod punishment (like, official guidelines) was never brought up for discussion, to my knowledge.

[sadolakced acid]

oh, you guys finally got it done?

Well, throw in some rules on how mods are to be punished, will you?

[*kryogenix*]

Are you kidding me? Members are given much, much, much more chances than moderators.

For example, some of the active members of the community...they get off-topic a lot, spam, occasionally border-line bash...but I don't take action on every single thing they do. That would just be annoying.

If a mod constantly did that, it would simply be unacceptable. They would be straight up told to stop, and if they didn't there would be no verbal warnings...if they constantly exhibited this behavior and didn't do their jobs, they'd be at risk for demotion.

Plus, mods basically are expected to walk on eggshells sometimes...I'm probably one of the most out spoken people on this forum. Can I say everything I want to say? No, that wouldn't be acceptable--I'm a moderator. Can members get away with being "bluntly honest"? Yes.

So how many times do the mods as a whole get to unfairly target a single member before they're punished?

[*tripvertigo*]

you dont think they should also be suspended from the forum for a period of time AND demoted?

[sadolakced acid]

Mods can yell at members, express thier opinions, etc. What they can't do is use their power to do so.

Abusing moderator powers should result in permenant demotion. When they abuse the power, they should they can't handle it. Sure, 2 weeks might make them cool off over one situation, but next time something similar happens they'll abuse their power again.

[*tripvertigo*]

no not two punishments for one offense.
so what, you demote them and they still get to post around the forum and do whatever? they didnt just abuse their powers, they attacked a member. thats TWO offenses.

[*kryogenix*]

brownsugar, you're full of shit and you know it.

The best thing is the mods can potentially abuse this. Don't want to commit abuse two times? That's ok! Have one of the new people do it for you! They'll gladly do it to prove their worth as a staff member and to compensate for their poor modding ability. Rinse, lather and repeat as many times as needed.

Oh wait, sorry I said that. Wouldn't want to give them any more ideas.

Mod punishment should be much more strict. They are given much more responsibility than a regular member and they should have more to lose as a result.

[*tripvertigo*]

how do you not agree with that?

when you devise a plan to murder someone and succeed you dont just get charged with murder. you get charged with conspiring to murder them and then actually doing it.

why shouldnt the same logic be applied here? you attack a member personally and because you are a mod, you also abuse your warning powers while doing so. thats two offenses. sorry.

[sadolakced acid]

Nice. When it's something you guys want to do you claim to speak for ju-sun and be able to make decision for him. When it's something you guys don't want to do you claim to have to ask Ju-Sun.

nice. something dick would be proud of.

[*kryogenix*]

tripvertigo, sadolakced acid:

Then I guess this is something the moderating team/members just don't agree upon.

It would be nice/interesting to have some guidelines set up. But of course, Jusun would have to have the final approval on this.

micron has been eschewing his responsibility on the site. I always argue him into a corner and his excuse is that it's not his responsibility. That's why he created that kryo thread, though none of the mods are willing to respond or answer questions, so it just goes to show you how ineffective the leadership is here.

[*tripvertigo*]

why would you even say that? you asked me if the mod should be dealt two punishments for one offense.

i said no, its two offenses.

this is obviously a conversation between me and you at this point, not the members and the mods.

im talking to YOU now.

[sadolakced acid]

as a member of the site the mod should get one punishment. As a mod they should get another punishment.

dick cheney kills a person, they gets impeached AND charged with murder.

[sadolakced acid]

is that part of the "play nice and don't hurt feelings" part?

[*tripvertigo*]

like are you completely dense?

if you are personally going after someone to warn them for no reason you are both personally attacking them and abusing your powers. what part of that is hard to understand? i didnt say anything about yelling.