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[micron]

hey all,

ive been getting a lot of pms / ims lately about members complaining about staff members, and how decisions should be made by me, not the staff. as all of you know, im not so active here in the forums, as my role today is more on teh development side of things than participating in teh community (this makes pushing out new features much faster, which everyone benefit from).

i just want to say taht the staff are here for a reason; theyre here to help everyone have a more enjoyable time in the community. that sometimes mean policing members and psots that are not welcomed here, which may at times seem personal and/or harsh. but in the end, its fo rhte good of the community.

so. id like to ask everyonet to have more respect for the staff memebrs and their decisions. believe me, its not easy being on staff, when doing anything more or less gets scrutinized under the microscope. please, give them some space to breath. and if you trully wish for a better cb, instead of trying to undermine them every step of the way, actively help out so that one day you too will be on staff where you can bring your ideas to the table. doing something wrong, and then coming to me to complain about how the staff handled it will not get you anywhere. for one, if you did something wrong, you should be prepared to take the consequences. and im not active on a day to day basis to be able to give the time or insight on the matter. i have a lot of respect for the staff - theyve kept this site going since its inception - so unless its something seriously wrong, it is not my intention to overturn or reverse their decisions.

so. dont do anything wrong. help out, be nice, and dont break any rules. and one day you'll see yourself on the other side of the fence and understand the enormous pressue and stress teh staff are under at times. until then happy posting. =)

[*Elba*]

Robbi was right. This place is going to shit.

[iDecay]

Hi Jusun!

I'm not doing anything to the mods..

[*SinfullySweet*]

I'm guessing, he was disabled?

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

yes, father dear!

while we're on the topic of playing nice, lets go to the topic of playing favorites in regards to someone's status.

in other news, i bet backstage has turned into a concentration camp.

[*SinfullySweet*]

It was a parmanent ban. YAYY!! I think..

[*kryogenix*]

Let's roll. If only you knew.

hey all,

ive been getting a lot of pms / ims lately about members complaining about staff members, and how decisions should be made by me, not the staff. as all of you know, im not so active here in the forums, as my role today is more on teh development side of things than participating in teh community (this makes pushing out new features much faster, which everyone benefit from).

If a lot of people are complaining about the staff, doesn't that say something?

i just want to say taht the staff are here for a reason; theyre here to help everyone have a more enjoyable time in the community. that sometimes mean policing members and psots that are not welcomed here, which may at times seem personal and/or harsh. but in the end, its fo rhte good of the community.

They are not making the community more enjoyable. Police are fine. The gestapo isn't.

so. id like to ask everyonet to have more respect for the staff memebrs and their decisions. believe me, its not easy being on staff, when doing anything more or less gets scrutinized under the microscope. please, give them some space to breath.

Disagreement doesn't automatically mean disrespect. But when the mods consistently ignore members, abuse their powers and refuse to be held responsible for their mistakes, how can people respect them?

and if you trully wish for a better cb, instead of trying to undermine them every step of the way, actively help out so that one day you too will be on staff where you can bring your ideas to the table. doing something wrong, and then coming to me to complain about how the staff handled it will not get you anywhere. for one, if you did something wrong, you should be prepared to take the consequences. and im not active on a day to day basis to be able to give the time or insight on the matter.

The problem is some people did nothing wrong and they're being punished. And your suggestion to work harder and earn a position on staff is laughable. A lot of people complaining were ALREADY on staff before quitting, then came back to find the site with a new staff that's doing an awful job. In fact, some members have tried applying for staff- and had their application deleted!

i have a lot of respect for the staff - theyve kept this site going since its inception - so unless its something seriously wrong, it is not my intention to overturn or reverse their decisions.

The staff of yesteryear and the staff of today are two different fish.

so. dont do anything wrong. help out, be nice, and dont break any rules. and one day you'll see yourself on the other side of the fence and understand the enormous pressue and stress teh staff are under at times. until then happy posting. =)

Again, the problem is the staff acting when no rules have been broken, and not punishing themselves when they break rules.

[sadolakced acid]

Time for a changing of the guard.

[*tripvertigo*]

put the old regime back!

[radhikaeatsraman]

Jusun, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I think you're an irresponsible jerk. You're putting all the work on the moderators, some of who are extremely ineffective. And you're trying to justify their poorly-made decisions by telling us to "give them a break."

THIS IS YOUR SITE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS ON THIS SITE.

kthx.

[DaTru KataLYST]

I'd just like you all to know Jusun can just as easily delete the entire community forums. cB is, primarily, a blogging customization site. The community forums are second (rightly so), and if there's no appreciation for the existential being of you posting on cB...well there's always the chance that the human Jusun can get frustrated, like any human, and delete these community forums. Completely in his right to do so, also.

Most cB users don't even have accounts, they're just here to take the skins and graphics. Don't think for one second that you complaining about the degradation of the community forums is going to matter much in the grand scheme of things.

This is not a public company, you do not hold shares. Jusun and fam are paying for the servers; they are paying for the bandwidth. Tolerate or leave, but you actually have no good reason to demand changes from the man paying for your existence in this community.

I used 'you' as in the entire community forum users.

[Simba]

^ Heck yeah.

And I'm sure there are many more "problems" more significant to running the site than this petty drama that pops up around cB.

[heyyfrankie]

Jusun, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I think you're an irresponsible jerk. You're putting all the work on the moderators, some of who are extremely ineffective. And you're trying to justify their poorly-made decisions by telling us to "give them a break."

THIS IS YOUR SITE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS ON THIS SITE.

kthx.

Radhika, that's really f**king rude.
there's a big difference between being 'completely honest' with someone and being a complete and total bitch.

[*tripvertigo*]

Jusun, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I think you're an irresponsible jerk. You're putting all the work on the moderators, some of who are extremely ineffective. And you're trying to justify their poorly-made decisions by telling us to "give them a break."

THIS IS YOUR SITE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS ON THIS SITE.

kthx.

that is completely unfair. i may not agree with how the site is run right now, but i think Jusun is doing a fairly good job. it's perfectly fine for him to delegate the forum administration to CAPABLE people (which doesnt mean I think that any of the current moderators/admins are at all capable).

he is busy with the development of the site as a whole. that takes hours and hours of work programming and tweaking backend code. i dont expect him to be here on the forums every day moderating and keeping everything mellow when he already has people to do that for him.

i do, however, think that he needs to put more capable people on the staff and get rid of the people who arent doing such a great job as he thinks.

[*tripvertigo*]

tripvertigo - Who IS doing a good job? Just wondering. Maybe we can all look up to that person. Or are you saying that no one is doing a good job?

it's perfectly fine for him to delegate the forum administration to CAPABLE people (which doesnt mean I think that any of the current moderators/admins are at all capable).

[*tripvertigo*]

You said one does not equal the other, I didn't know that you meant that was your official opinion.

Who do you think would be capable? Like out of the official members/members?

put the old regime back!

[*tripvertigo*]

Are you serious right now?

Key word there. "BACK"

[*tripvertigo*]

How can someone who has never been on staff before be "BACK" on staff now?

[*tripvertigo*]

Not all of the old regime, obviously because most of them are no longer around, but the ones that ARE still here should be put back on staff, and then they could choose who they think are right for the job. That doesnt include any of the current staff now.

edit:// obviously this would never happen though.

[*tripvertigo*]

Because they would do a better job, and have done a better job in the past.

edit:// dont talk to me anymore. its too much work to explain everything in granular detail.

[*tripvertigo*]

um, i didnt say you should listen to me. when a person gives their opinion, they dont always expect others to listen. you asked me to elaborate, and i did . i'm not obligated to granulate everything to the last minute detail. i dont even like you. i dont even like talking to you. all im asking now is for you to respect that i dont wish for you to talk to me anymore.

and i think i already made it clear that i didnt expect anything to get done.

[*brownsugar*]

K, I respect that. Thanks for your replies. If only it could've worked out.

[brooklyneast05]

um, i didnt say you should listen to me. when a person gives their opinion, they dont always expect others to listen.

i think the part that says"when a person gives their opinion", should be changed to "when a person bitches"
i think that would fit better in ur case

[*tripvertigo*]

explain to me where i was bitching. seriously. i defended jusun, saying that i undertand and respect his decision to focus on the development of cb and delegate forum administration to the mods. and i went on to say that i think there should be more capable people on staff if he's going to do that. then suzette asked me to elaborate.

sorry, but you're out of line there.

[brooklyneast05]

explain to me where i was bitching. seriously. i defended jusun, saying that i undertand and respect his decision to focus on the development of cb and delegate forum administration to the mods. and i went on to say that i think there should be more capable people on staff if he's going to do that. then suzette asked me to elaborate.

sorry, but you're out of line there.

i get that u want more capable people but i don't understand who these people are going to be. when asked to elaborate,i thought ur answer to that was the old staff (sorry if this wasn't what u meant), which u and suzette both agreed was impossible. so that does nobody any good.

i apologize for being out of line
ur attitude problem seems out of line to me
i don't get why u go so crazy and act like everyone's stupid just because they question u(which seems a reasonable thing to do when u want things that can't possibly be done)