Homosexuals, are they Ok or just wrong? Options

[melface]

I think those people who are not okay with homosexuals and that are all "Oh well you're going against God and it says so in the Bible and you're doing something that is wrong blah blah blah.. so on and so forth" are ignorant. Homosexuals do not CHOOSE to be gay... It is not an option. Why would someone WANT to be discriminated against? Why would someone CHOOSE to be hated for being who they are?... No one wants to risk being MURDERED for being who they are...

[inlonelinessidie]

I think those people who are not okay with homosexuals and that are all "Oh well you're going against God and it says so in the Bible and you're doing something that is wrong blah blah blah.. so on and so forth" are ignorant. Homosexuals do not CHOOSE to be gay... It is not an option. Why would someone WANT to be discriminated against? Why would someone CHOOSE to be hated for being who they are?... No one wants to risk being MURDERED for being who they are...

I agree

[xHalf nHalf]

I think those people who are not okay with homosexuals and that are all "Oh well you're going against God and it says so in the Bible and you're doing something that is wrong blah blah blah.. so on and so forth" are ignorant. Homosexuals do not CHOOSE to be gay... It is not an option. Why would someone WANT to be discriminated against? Why would someone CHOOSE to be hated for being who they are?... No one wants to risk being MURDERED for being who they are...

sweetheart, you need to read the previous posts. we are not trying to criticize them, put them down, or accuse them of anything. we simply said it was against or morals. and some of us were asked why and we replied that it is a sin, and that it is stated in the bible, blah blah blah. we ARE NOT IGNORANT. i suggest you go look that up in a dictionary or something, i can assure you it wont say anything about somebody having their own views and opinions cause that it simply what we are stating about homosexuality. and if they dont CHOOSE to be gay then why are they? and please dont say that they are born that way because i have already provided a quote and link that shut that excuse down....and as for them having to go through hardships such as those, they arent the only ones. if they choose to live that kind of lifestyle they should brace themselves for what might happen to them because its been happening for awhile now...

i reeeaallly wish people would think about what they are going to post and be a bit more mature about it

[melface]

sweetheart, you need to read the previous posts. we are not trying to criticize them, put them down, or accuse them of anything. we simply said it was against or morals. and some of us were asked why and we replied that it is a sin, and that it is stated in the bible, blah blah blah. we ARE NOT IGNORANT. i suggest you go look that up in a dictionary or something, i can assure you it wont say anything about somebody having their own views and opinions cause that it simply what we are stating about homosexuality. and if they dont CHOOSE to be gay then why are they? and please dont say that they are born that way because i have already provided a quote and link that shut that excuse down....and as for them having to go through hardships such as those, they arent the only ones. if they choose to live that kind of lifestyle they should brace themselves for what might happen to them because its been happening for awhile now...

i reeeaallly wish people would think about what they are going to post and be a bit more mature about it

Believe me, I have a best friend that is gay... It may be a SIN in the BIBLE but who said the bible is correct? I don't think that gays should be looked down upon just because the BIBLE said that it was a sin... Also, a person may turn out as a homosexual by receiving an excessive amount of estrogen rather than testosterone while in their mother before they're even let out into the world.
Open up your mind and start thinking for yourself and stop going by what the bible tells you to think or feel about something or someone.

[Spirited Away]

I think those people who are not okay with homosexuals and that are all "Oh well you're going against God and it says so in the Bible and you're doing something that is wrong blah blah blah.. so on and so forth" are ignorant.

That does it, I was nice until now.









DAMN YOU STUPID people, how many times have I told you to argue with reason and not with STUPID "I think" all people against it are IGNORANT.

GEE. I wonder if you know what the damn word means you DUMB SHIT.

IGNORANCE includes those who contradicts themselves. IGNORANCE includes those who believe something and REFUSE to let others believe something else.

You sound like you hate religion and God, well, YOU'RE NO BETTER.

Well, you're entitled to your opinions, but I'm entitled to mine.

You think I'm IGNORANT? I think you're an ignorant hypocrite.

Better to be ignorant, and true to myself, than to be an ignorant hypocrite.

Homosexuals do not CHOOSE to be gay... It is not an option. Why would someone WANT to be discriminated against? Why would someone CHOOSE to be hated for being who they are?... No one wants to risk being MURDERED for being who they are...

Homosexuality isn't an option, but marriage IS. Who would force you to marry someone? WHO????



AND last but not least, I'm not Christian, I don't follow what God says but I follow my own moral code. PUHLEZZE, do not make stupid assumptions.




Okay, I really needed to say all that. I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone, but I've been greatly offended myself. It's only "fair" and "equal", since equality is what you seek, that you accept my apology.

[melface]

uninspiredfae... I was not making assumptions about you... and I did not directly call you ignorant... So don't assume about that shit either... and I also thought there were to be no member bashing on createblog. I did not say that hey YOU'RE IGNORANT... I said what I thought, deal with it. I am neutral on the whole God/Religion thing. How am I an ignorant hypocrite? I was just stating what I thought I view the whole sin thing differently but it doesn't mean that it's wrong I just wish people would stop just GOING with what the Bible says... I'm not REFUSING them to believe what they want...

[Spirited Away]

uninspiredfae... I was not making assumptions about you... and I did not directly call you ignorant... So don't assume about that shit either... and I also thought there were to be no member bashing on createblog. I did not say that hey YOU'RE IGNORANT... I said what I thought, deal with it. I am neutral on the whole God/Religion thing. How am I an ignorant hypocrite? I was just stating what I thought I view the whole sin thing differently but it doesn't mean that it's wrong I just wish people would stop just GOING with what the Bible says... I'm not REFUSING them to believe what they want...

Oh wow, you didn't DIRECTLY called me ignorant, well Hitler didn't DIRECTLY killed Jews either, genius. So, was my assumption wrong?

If you don't want me to make assumptions, then DON'T generalize.

I believe it was you and several others who bashed me and people who are against homosexual marriages first. Pick a post that I "bashed" someone without justifiable reason, you'll find that there isn't any. Thank you very much.

Hey, I just said what I thought, too, and I'd figure we can all "deal with it" .

Ah, you didn't make your stand very clear then. All I understood is that you called people who are against it, ignorant, and that would include myself. Even though you'll find that others have changed my mind quite a bit about the whole subject of being against it.

I'm not going with what the Bible says, and like I said, this only goes against what my morals consider right. I never said anything about it's a fact that homosexuals are wrong, I've only said that it is wrong, in my OPINION.

You're not refusing, yet you curse us for our "ignorance". Do you see a difference in refusing and cursing us for what we believe in? Not me, and I hope that I made it clear that there isn't any difference.

But anyway, I've become neutral in this controversy as well. But please, in the future, try not to generalize people. Thanks.

[inlonelinessidie]

Oh wow, you didn't DIRECTLY called me ignorant, well Hitler didn't DIRECTLY killed Jews either, genius. So, was my assumption wrong?

LOL, what is up with everyone calling each other genius.

[Spirited Away]

LOL, what is up with everyone calling each other genius.

Oh, that was just me being sarcastic...

And I don't know anyone else who called people geniuses.

[xHalf nHalf]

Believe me, I have a best friend that is gay... It may be a SIN in the BIBLE but who said the bible is correct? I don't think that gays should be looked down upon just because the BIBLE said that it was a sin... Also, a person may turn out as a homosexual by receiving an excessive amount of estrogen rather than testosterone while in their mother before they're even let out into the world.
Open up your mind and start thinking for yourself and stop going by what the bible tells you to think or feel about something or someone.

ok you have a best friend that is gay..and? as i have said, READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS SO WE DONT HAVE TO REPEAT OURSELVES. there is no proof that the bible has changed or been altered over the years, so until then I WILL CONTINUE TO BELIEVE EVERY WORD OF IT. i dont go by it because its the bible, i go by it because i believe that it is Gods word. and do you have any resources about the whole not enough testosterone thing? if thats the case, how do lesbians become gay. they have no way of getting "extra testoterone". your theory sounds like a crock to me..please, prove me wrong, do soem research, and enlighten me

[onenonly101]

Hypocrisy boogles my mind(yes i did say boogles). I am ignorant, stupid, and close minded for not accepting homosexuality. Yet it is alright for people to not accept my beliefs and bash them. All I have said is that i do not think homosexuality is morally right. Becauise I stand by God and His word., and my beliefs.

What is wrong with going what with the bible says. It is the same with going by what the law says. Is it not right to obey the laws and head its commands?

[melface]

ok you have a best friend that is gay..and? as i have said, READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS SO WE DONT HAVE TO REPEAT OURSELVES. there is no proof that the bible has changed or been altered over the years, so until then I WILL CONTINUE TO BELIEVE EVERY WORD OF IT. i dont go by it because its the bible, i go by it because i believe that it is Gods word. and do you have any resources about the whole not enough testosterone thing? if thats the case, how do lesbians become gay. they have no way of getting "extra testoterone". your theory sounds like a crock to me..please, prove me wrong, do soem research, and enlighten me

That's cute and all that you guys are so into what the bible says about homosexuality... but do you honestly believe it's okay for people to get killed or beat up for being who they cannot help to be? AND my best friend has told me many times that he cannot help being gay ... it was not a choice of his.

And you guys are sitting here saying 'oh prove it to me that you're right' ... Well, prove it to me that the BIBLE is correct.

Anyway, believe what you want but please try to accept people for who they are.
I guess what I'm tired of are god-loving people that stand by what the bible says and try to CHANGE homosexuals to heterosexuals... it's not going to happen.

[skaterjswife2]

That's cute and all that you guys are so into what the bible says about homosexuality... but do you honestly believe it's okay for people to get killed or beat up for being who they cannot help to be? AND my best friend has told me many times that he cannot help being gay ... it was not a choice of his.

And you guys are sitting here saying 'oh prove it to me that you're right' ... Well, prove it to me that the BIBLE is correct.

Anyway, believe what you want but please try to accept people for who they are.
I guess what I'm tired of are god-loving people that stand by what the bible says and try to CHANGE homosexuals to heterosexuals... it's not going to happen.

wooohoo u tell em lol

[inlonelinessidie]

That's cute and all that you guys are so into what the bible says about homosexuality... but do you honestly believe it's okay for people to get killed or beat up for being who they cannot help to be? AND my best friend has told me many times that he cannot help being gay ... it was not a choice of his.

And you guys are sitting here saying 'oh prove it to me that you're right' ... Well, prove it to me that the BIBLE is correct.

Anyway, believe what you want but please try to accept people for who they are.
I guess what I'm tired of are god-loving people that stand by what the bible says and try to CHANGE homosexuals to heterosexuals... it's not going to happen.

*applause*

[xHalf nHalf]

That's cute and all that you guys are so into what the bible says about homosexuality... but do you honestly believe it's okay for people to get killed or beat up for being who they cannot help to be? AND my best friend has told me many times that he cannot help being gay ... it was not a choice of his.

first of all i wasnt going for "cute" when it came to saying how i felt about what the bible says of homosexuality, second when did we ever say that it was ok for gay people to be harmed? did we not say that WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS!?!? i DO NOT recall anybody wishing harm upon them.

And you guys are sitting here saying 'oh prove it to me that you're right' ... Well, prove it to me that the BIBLE is correct.

and how do you suppose we convince you to also believe in what the bible says? that is your choice. and it is part of our faith to believe and follow the bible because it is God's word. thats one of our responsibilities as a Christian, you dont have to go by it or believe it if you dont want to.

Anyway, believe what you want but please try to accept people for who they are.
I guess what I'm tired of are god-loving people that stand by what the bible says and try to CHANGE homosexuals to heterosexuals... it's not going to happen.

again, WHEN DID WE SAY WE DONT ACCEPT HOMOSEXUALS?!? we SIMPLY said we dont support the PRACTICE OF HOMOSEXUALITY. theres a difference. we have constantly stated that we hold no grudge against gay people and have nothing against them, how many times do we hafta say this to get it through you alls heads??! and who said we are trying to change homosexuals into heterosexuals?!?! WHEN, PLEASE QUOTE ANY OF US. the majority of you are almost too immature to debate with because youre just saying the same things about us. that we are bashing gay people, that we hate gay people, etc etc. so by saying those things you are also making us repeat ourselves by saying that we have nothing against them. that we are DOING NOTHING TO THEM. we just said that it is against OUR MORALS. that does not apply to everybody. you act like we are going around condemning all gay people, OH YOURE GAY SO YOURE GOING TO HELL, GOD HATES YOU. we never said anyting negative about them. WE JUST DONT AGREE WITH HOMOSEXUALITY. now please, if youre thinking about posting bring a legitimate argument, and stop repeating all of the same crap about us bashing gay people, how theyre born with it, blah blah blah

[Spirited Away]

^^ Doesn't matter what you say to them, really. Ignorance is ignorance, no matter how hard they try to change its definition.

You argue with the Bible, and I argue with my morals, but we're always "wrong".

They're hypocrites more so than we are because at the very least, we don't say "hey, that's wrong!" and turn around do the same thing.

This is a never ending controversy, let it lay.

[melface]

I really wish you people could stop assuming i'm referring to you.

[Spirited Away]

Who are you reffering to?

ONLY people who use the Bible? Or do you have a problem with people who don't like homosexuality?

I'll tell you now, my brother said he almost beat up a guy who was hitting on him at a bar.

[islandkiss]

I'm unsure..

[megumint]

it doesn't really matter.. i mean it's not like we're gonna get a population decrease suddenly. and if we do, it's not like it matters. we're beginning to overpopulate anyway..

but now bush is trying to change the constitution to make it illegal. hm... that's wrong. another mistake that bush is making.. this'll start another war.

[xHalf nHalf]

^^ Doesn't matter what you say to them, really. Ignorance is ignorance, no matter how hard they try to change its definition.

You argue with the Bible, and I argue with my morals, but we're always "wrong".

They're hypocrites more so than we are because at the very least, we don't say "hey, that's wrong!" and turn around do the same thing.

This is a never ending controversy, let it lay.

i guess youre right..its kinda dispointing to know that i couldnt get my point across when i had to acknowlegde all of their crap

[Chlorie]

GOD made people to be with the opposite sex...but...i do believe there is homosexuals who love the same sex. It is disgusting but...i am one of the only people in my family who can deal with it. Everyone else was disgusted with gay marriages or whatever but..i don't care.

GOd wanted people to love the opposite sex...if you love the same sex there is nothing wrong with that...thats an issue between you and GOD.

I thinks homo's are good people though...jus like everyone else.

[Devastation]

eh. no need to explain.

[Rachel]

there is absolutely nothing wrong w. being gay!

people who are gay have feelings, live life, and love others just the way "us straight people" do.

if its "morally wrong" and "god wont accept it" then why did he make it so that people could become that way?

those who are homophobic are just closed minded idiots. not every gay guy will hit on you, im sorry your not that hot!

uninspiredfae Posted: Jun 17 2004, 7:19 AM
No one has yet to prove whether or not homosexuals are born that way or they chose to be that way. There is no adequate evidence of either. 

unin: actually it has been proven that they cant choose to be gay. there is something in their genes/DNA whatever that programs them to be attracted to the same sex...come on would you choose to gay? would you CHOOSE to be hated by 1/2 of america?? choose to persecuted because of who you love? i dont think so.

[F1R3B4T]

im agasint homosexuality.
its just wrong.