STRANGE NEWS ABOUT VTECH SHOOTINGS, Possible conspiracy? Options

[*Podomaht*]

Now, before you guys go ahead and say shit about how I'm an idiot, read the stuff. I'm not saying CSH didn't do it, but pretty interesting facts.


( even though it sounds like some 34 year old living with his parents made this up. )

The Following are FACTS

1. In order to shoot 2 to 3 shots with both guns in the hand accurately, the person must be a professional (Colombine incident included 2 people,3guns,900 shots=13 deaths)

CSH(Cho Seung Hee) was never trained in the army.
If you have shot a gun before, you would know it is hard to fire a pistol so accurately, in so quick time.

CSH had only bought the guns a month before the shooting. How is it possible for him to shoot so good?

2. Emily, reported to be his girlfriend, is actually not his girlfriend.

3. Emily was not related with CSH in any way, but he went to her dormitory and shot it up.

4. CSH's body had 2 shots in the chest, 1 in the head.
There are 3 common ways of suicidal with gun:
1)shooting from the side of the head
2)shooting throught your mouth
3)Shooting from under your head

The usual suicidal would usually have shots in the sideof the head or the face. CSH, however, had a bullet stuck in the back of his head

Most people who were fired at, got 3 shots. CSH, also was found with 3 shots in his body

There was once a scientific experiment for the Korean army incident- It explained that it is extremely hard to shoot yourself multiple times after being shot in the chest or the head. Again, CSH had 1 shot in the head, 2 shots in the chest.

Why was he shot 3 times, just like the others? Does it make sense that he was shot in such a way?

5. There was no witness to the sucidal scene- The survivors in the scene had ran out of the classroom (someone said the killer's eyes were not Asian but these kinds of sayings were ignored).

What's the truth?

6. Nobody saw CSH's face.

7. The witness's say CSH was an asian with a mask on, and was about 6 ft tall and big.

8. The gun vender described CSH as an Asian. period.
There was no films of CCTV, and no other evidence.

9. The vender said he had sold 50 bullets to CSH.
There were 62 deaths and injuries.
There was no one who died was shot less than 3 times
(32 deaths x 3 shots/death....30 injuries x 2 shots/injury...60 extra bullets)

Calculated, CSH must have had more than 200 shots to make this incident true.

10. The killer had erased the code on the gun. The reciept for the purchase of the gun was found in the killer's bag. What's the possibility of the killer keeping the receipt for the gun after a month?
If anyone would take effort and time to erase the code on the gun, wouldn't they be careful enough to get rid of the receipt?(It's not easy to erase the code. It takes few seconds to get rid of the receipt)

11. The witnessess say the killer did not wear, nor carry any bags. CSH did have a bag.

12. Obviously, the video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even the New York Times pointed this out.

13. According to the Police, the gun at the incident was automatic. Watch the videos and hear the sounds- It's all fired with single shot guns.

Think about it. There are about 10-15 rounds in a pistol, and there were 32 deaths, with 3 shots in each. With both pistols in both hands, it is impossible to reload. Watch the video, shots are constantly fired.

14. CSH had no friends at all, according to the student. Before few days of the incident, he was with 3 Americans. Who were they?

15. In the news, CSH had done this for the hate of the rich people. If this is true, he could have simply shot the classrooms. There was no reason for him to go to the dormitories and kill 2 people, who were not in any relation with CSH.

And why did CSH, after the first shootings, make the video, walk around the school to send it, and then go to the 2nd shootings?

16. When CSH's body was found. His ID was PRESENT. Why was his identity reported later on?

17. The Witness' sayings are not matching correctly. Some say they have not heard any gunfire in their building, but other say they heard it from that building.

18. The photos which were sent to NBC does not match CSH's face.
Observing the eyebrows, eyes, and the face shape, it is different. Some say it's because he has his glasses off. Look again, it does not match CSH.

19. CSH's body was found with the 28 dead bodies in the classroom. The only survivor said, the killer had ran away after killing the 28 people, but CSH was found dead with the other dead bodies

20. The classroom, dormitory, hallways, school gate, the gunshop.
The films of the CCTV were NOT exposed to the public. WHY?


So What's wrong with the reports/news?

-CCTV
-2 guns/amature, yet many students died and many were injured as a professional shooter would have done it
-According to the witness, CSH had apparently left the classroom
-CSH was found dead in the classroom
-The gun code was erased
-The receipt for the gun was found in the bag



These are the theories made about this

-CSH had bought the guns for someone else?
-The killer knew CSH did not have a positive social life
-The killer decided to use CSH
-The killer had planned this out to keep himself covered


One last thing,
The timing is not logical

CSH took 2 hours to get to the 2nd shooting after the 1st.
In 2 hours, it is impossible to film, edit the video, get to the post office and have it in the receiver's inbox.

So the video was made before the incident, with the Killer?

So wassup?

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

The suicide thing was pretty interesting.

As far as the "How could he shoot so well?" maybe he's shot guns before. I mean, just because he bought those guns doesn't mean they were the only ones he's ever shot.

Judging by the tapes he sent in to the news stations, he's not an innocent man.

[*Podomaht*]

Dang that's a pretty interesting conspiracy theory. The point about the suicide is pretty interesting, how could he have done that himself?

Hmm.

Knowing he had hollow-jacket bullets, he would've been near dead at the first shot to the chest...those type of bullets expand and do MAXIMUM damage to the tissue at close range.


They're used by the police to kill in the fastest way possibe.

The suicide thing was pretty interesting.

As far as the "How could he shoot so well?" maybe he's shot guns before. I mean, just because he bought those guns doesn't mean they were the only ones he's ever shot.

Judging by the tapes he sent in to the news stations, he's not an innocent man.

You should try shooting a gun. It takes years of experience to properly shoot at that speed and accuracy.

The Columbine massacre had THREE guns, TWO people, 900 SHOTS FIRED, but only 13 deaths. Wassup?





-edit


I'm pretty much on the fence on this one, though.

Here's what a friend on another forum wrote.

Quote from Spyder757
What is the purpose of this? Your points are a few things that are true mixed with a bunch of stuff that isn't. This is typical of the kind of BS stuff that floods people's mailboxes after such an event.

#1 He has to be a professional? A professional what? The Walther 22 has virtually no recoil. The Glock 19 has extremely low recoil. He fired lots of shots at extremely close range. It's not that difficult to hit such close targets with such a huge volume of ammunition. The Columbine killers carried a shotgun and a significantly less accurate Tec-9 & Hi-Point carbine. Neither of these weapons are as accurate as the Glock.

#4 the most common way of suicide with a firearm is the head or the chest. A surprising number of people choose to shoot them through the heart or close to it.

#5 the statement that there are no witnesses is also false. One student who was wounded and faking dead saw the gunman kill himself.

#9 The gun dealer said he sold the guy 50 bullets to go with his Glock. His Glock was a 9mm. Most range ammunition comes in boxes of 50. It's like $16 for 50 rounds. His 2nd gun was a .22LR. You can buy 500 rounds of .22LR for around $16. He obviously had ammunition for his 2nd weapon and clearly didn't get it from this dealer.

#13 The MEDIA reported it as an automatic. Liberal fear mongers eat that stuff up. Automatic does NOT mean a machine gun it means AUTO LOADING. Neither the Glock 19 nor the Walther 22 the killer was armed with can fire as a machine gun.

#13 pt 2. The Glock 19 can accept a 10, 18, & 33 round magazines. There was obviously a break in firing to reload and countless witnesses heard him changing the magazines to his weapons in the hall.

Basically this entire list in bullshit and put together by someone who doesn't have the slighest understanding of firearms.

[misoshiru]

That's definitely interesting. Especially the thing about the pictures. I was actually wondering about that. How CSH in the video looked a lot different from the CSH in his ID picture.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

Knowing he had hollow-jacket bullets, he would've been near dead at the first shot to the chest...those type of bullets expand and do MAXIMUM damage to the tissue at close range.
They're used by the police to kill in the fastest way possibe.
You should try shooting a gun. It takes years of experience to properly shoot at that speed and accuracy.

The Columbine massacre had THREE guns, TWO people, 900 SHOTS FIRED, but only 13 deaths. Wassup?

I've shot guns before. Granted, I don't have a lot of knowledge in that department. Columbine also had home made bombs... it would've been crazy if they actually would've worked.

[*Podomaht*]

I've shot guns before. Granted, I don't have a lot of knowledge in that department. Columbine also had home made bombs... it would've been crazy if they actually would've worked.

Tru dat. Propane tank bombs are the shizz.

[panther]

west philli resider, 2nd shooter!

[misoshiru]

http://thevirginiatechconspiracy.blogspot.com

an intriguing read.

[Simba]

The Following are FACTS

CSH(Cho Seung Hee)

Anyhow. Sure, this it was certainly an interesting read, but there's plenty of stuff in there that's either iffy or really just an overload on speculation.

12. Obviously, the video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even the New York Times pointed this out.

Self-timer, tripod, any still surface, anybody?

And why did CSH, after the first shootings, make the video, walk around the school to send it, and then go to the 2nd shootings?

Get the video sent over for media attention, and then shoot some more people up to finish the job. (Why would he say all that in his video, and not shoot some more people?)

CSH took 2 hours to get to the 2nd shooting after the 1st.
In 2 hours, it is impossible to film, edit the video, get to the post office and have it in the receiver's inbox.

So the video was made before the incident, with the Killer?

Sure, the video could have been made before the incident, but there didn't have to be another person involved for it to have worked out.

-The killer had planned this out to keep himself covered

Then why not have Cho in the video? No reason to video yourself and send it to the media all while trying to keep your cover. If the person in the media package wasn't Cho or wasn't the supposed "killer" (because that would be just plain stupid), then who else could have been the subject of the video have been, and for what reason?

[*kryogenix*]

It might be Hee instead of Hui because that's how they romanized the hangeul.

[*Podomaht*]

Anyhow. Sure, this it was certainly an interesting read, but there's plenty of stuff in there that's either iffy or really just an overload on speculation.

Self-timer, tripod, any still surface, anybody?
Get the video sent over for media attention, and then shoot some more people up to finish the job. (Why would he say all that in his video, and not shoot some more people?)
Sure, the video could have been made before the incident, but there didn't have to be another person involved for it to have worked out.
Then why not have Cho in the video? No reason to video yourself and send it to the media all while trying to keep your cover. If the person in the media package wasn't Cho or wasn't the supposed "killer" (because that would be just plain stupid), then who else could have been the subject of the video have been, and for what reason?

First. It's correct with Hee. Cho Seung Hee is how it's romanized.

Bitch.

Second. Not to big on this topic, so I'll skip.

Third. I'd like to see you type out a manifesto, shoot multiple videos, take pictures, and edit them into a DVD within two hours.

Fourth. You are giving your opinion on this one, so I'll just say you're retarded.

Fifth. Maybe he was trying to cover his identity because I don't know...maybe...HE DIDNT WANT TO GO TO JAIL/BE f**ked IN THE ASS?

Sixth. It's called a scapegoat.

Also, explain the whole three shots to himself? I'm not saying all this is true, but all the comments you wrote about them were completely stupid and space-wasting.

[Simba]

First. It's correct with Hee. Cho Seung Hee is how it's romanized.

Good to know.

Third. I'd like to see you type out a manifesto, shoot multiple videos, take pictures, and edit them into a DVD within two hours.

What I'm saying is that the conspiracy is adding an unnecessary component to the story (though, I guess that's what conspiracies are all about).

CSH took 2 hours to get to the 2nd shooting after the 1st.
In 2 hours, it is impossible to film, edit the video, get to the post office and have it in the receiver's inbox.

So the video was made before the incident, with the Killer?

The same thing could be possible without having another person involved.

Fifth. Maybe he was trying to cover his identity because I don't know...maybe...HE DIDNT WANT TO GO TO JAIL/BE f**ked IN THE ASS?

If you're talking about Cho, well.

16. When CSH's body was found. His ID was PRESENT. Why was his identity reported later on?

Also, explain the whole three shots to himself? I'm not saying all this is true, but all the comments you wrote about them were completely stupid and space-wasting.

I'll be honest, I found the whole bit on his suicide and three shots to himself interesting, and I don't have too much to say against it. Though, I'm already at the point of doubting the credibility of the "facts" stated in the conspiracy.

#5 the statement that there are no witnesses is also false. One student who was wounded and faking dead saw the gunman kill himself.

[heatherl5]

Well that is very intersting. I wonder what really happened

[lovescream]

Too bad we'll never know unless someone here was an actual true witness of the shooting. Interesting though. It was a good read.

[ashxx69xbaby]

thats interesting. i did a theory paper on that the paper also includeded the columbine. i read really into all this. i thought i was the only one that noticed the facial features. but i wasnt. it just shows you how ppl or any one can or could manipulate ppl. its a great reading too. personally i liked it. but they srsly need to do more investigating personally. if ppl seen the signs or at least did they should have told someone. who ever made the tape had enuff time to do all the editing to it. it just shows how the world is coming too. parents send their kids off to school and college in hopes that nothing will go wrong. something has to be DONE w/all the violence in schools now a days. its wrong that innocent lives are being lost due to ppl who arent thinking w. the right state of mind. who knows maybe was suicidal or was bi polar and someone manipulated him. we will never know at all.

[Crash2]

Hmm... the guys in the pics kinda do look different. Weird...

[arghrawr]

I do love conspiracy theories.
The parts about the differences between the eyes and his suicide were very interesting.

[parallel]

But I thought that he wasn't wearing a mask while doing the shootings? Wth.

[*Podomaht*]

who bumped this?

[Rachel]

thats interesting. i did a theory paper on that the paper also includeded the columbine. i read really into all this. i thought i was the only one that noticed the facial features. but i wasnt. it just shows you how ppl or any one can or could manipulate ppl. its a great reading too. personally i liked it. but they srsly need to do more investigating personally. if ppl seen the signs or at least did they should have told someone. who ever made the tape had enuff time to do all the editing to it. it just shows how the world is coming too. parents send their kids off to school and college in hopes that nothing will go wrong. something has to be DONE w/all the violence in schools now a days. its wrong that innocent lives are being lost due to ppl who arent thinking w. the right state of mind. who knows maybe was suicidal or was bi polar and someone manipulated him. we will never know at all.

[towntown2]

Interesting, interesting.

The girl that was killed in the dorms...I heard on the news that CSH had liked her for a long time and that he'd been pursuing her for a while.
So in a way, I think she was related to CSH.

[Joss-eh-lime]

hmm..these boggle my mind

but a few of the things the article says dont make sense

like
12. Obviously, the video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even the New York Times pointed this out.

its called a tripod...


if CSH really didn't do it...this is one HUGE conspiracy.

[ReggieM]

craaazy.

[pinacoolada]

If CSH didn't really do it, that means that the killer is still walking around. Scary thought.

[Ington]

Quote from Spyder757
What is the purpose of this? Your points are a few things that are true mixed with a bunch of stuff that isn't. This is typical of the kind of BS stuff that floods people's mailboxes after such an event.

#1 He has to be a professional? A professional what? The Walther 22 has virtually no recoil. The Glock 19 has extremely low recoil. He fired lots of shots at extremely close range. It's not that difficult to hit such close targets with such a huge volume of ammunition. The Columbine killers carried a shotgun and a significantly less accurate Tec-9 & Hi-Point carbine. Neither of these weapons are as accurate as the Glock.

#4 the most common way of suicide with a firearm is the head or the chest. A surprising number of people choose to shoot them through the heart or close to it.

#5 the statement that there are no witnesses is also false. One student who was wounded and faking dead saw the gunman kill himself.

#9 The gun dealer said he sold the guy 50 bullets to go with his Glock. His Glock was a 9mm. Most range ammunition comes in boxes of 50. It's like $16 for 50 rounds. His 2nd gun was a .22LR. You can buy 500 rounds of .22LR for around $16. He obviously had ammunition for his 2nd weapon and clearly didn't get it from this dealer.

#13 The MEDIA reported it as an automatic. Liberal fear mongers eat that stuff up. Automatic does NOT mean a machine gun it means AUTO LOADING. Neither the Glock 19 nor the Walther 22 the killer was armed with can fire as a machine gun.

#13 pt 2. The Glock 19 can accept a 10, 18, & 33 round magazines. There was obviously a break in firing to reload and countless witnesses heard him changing the magazines to his weapons in the hall.

Basically this entire list in bullshit and put together by someone who doesn't have the slighest understanding of firearms.

Don't ignore this, people.

This doesn't remotely seem like a valid conspiracy. It seems, like Spyder757 said, to be written by someone without any understanding of firearms. The points in this conspiracy can be explained, or are simply made up facts.