Graphics, gone to hell? Options

[Gypsy Eyes]

Sorry if I sound like a broken record but what is happening to the graphics? The quality is decreasing and it looks like some of the mods (not saying any names) aren't reading the submission rules or guidelines. Just looking through the first two pages I can see four of five graphics that are either poor quality or go against the rules. Wasn't the whole point of having a queue to weed out the bad graphics?

[*Duchess of Dork*]

^ Absolutely.

Would you feel really put on the spot if I asked to post some examples? If you're uncomfortable with that, I totally understand and you can PM me.

I know that some of the design related staff has two windows open, one with the submission and the other with the Moderator Guidelines, which is probably a great idea.

[Gypsy Eyes]

That is a good idea. No problem with examples, I just didn't feel like getting b*tched out again.

These are not supposed to be accepted. It's album art.

This is not even remotely in focus and poor quality.

Backgrounds have to be a minimum of 800x600px unless its a repeated one.

This is a jocked image from DA and an extremely well known image. Don't know why no one caught that.

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and there's much more. That was just the first two or three pages.

[*digital.fragrance*]

I was about to add one, but I just realized that that's #1 in your post...

I hope whoever accpeted these doesn't hate me for the rest of my life...

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are we accepting photos of posters?
...I have a strong feeling they just copied and pasted
Credit a maybe too large?
I think this is too simple

[stay infinite]

Jackie, at least your bringing it to their attention, you in no way sound like a broken record.

I completely agree, the newer staff I hate to say it are the ones accepting a lot of the on the lower side of the scale graphics, I've noticed it for some time. And it doesn't matter how many times you say it almost, its never going to end. No matter how many house cleanings the design staff do theres always going to be bad graphics when new people get hired and even the ones that are already hired and don't know what to accept or their just too nice and accept everything.


^You on xanga staff Rachael, if you knew this was happening and stuff why didn't you even bring it up with staff and ask them. I know theres plenty of design related threads backstage and I'm pretty positive you can check who accepted those and perhaps contact them about it as well Sorry if that came out rude or anything, no intention for it to sound that way


http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=29062
yea that one does look like it was copy and pasted although some people could use them as image stamps for photoshop and make brushes out of them perhaps if they wanted. Perhaps think about adding a new part in graphics for image stamps?

http://graphics.cbimg8.com/57/28886c.gif
Credit is way to big, I remember seeing a discussion about this some time ago about how a lot of people were complaining why their graphics were rejected only because of the credit, and I'm pretty positive everyone on the staff has seen it and its even in the moderator guidlines at accepted graphics so the newly hired design staff (kristina) should know whats on it, so I highly doubt it could have been her.

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=28779
I agree this is really simple, but if you look at a lot of the backgrounds a lot of them the people didn't even make like Kimmetree, she submitted a whole bunch of victorian style backgrounds that she in no way created and they were accepted. Also I mean its a background image, if it looks fine when set as one I don't see why it should need to be rejected?


http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=29136

I don't know if you've noticed but this has been going on for a really long time. Some user use to submit photos of her little drawings and words on notebook paper all the time. And once one is accepted there is no reason in rejecting all the others like it because then people would start to question and think its a personal issue. Also if you look around in the graphics there are some that are pictures of paintings and such as well

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=29172

what is this one for exactly? If this one were to get rejected then almost ALL of the photos submitted to createblog and were accepted need to go and get rejected as well.



Hate to do that to you Rachael, but I just find it weird that your confronting this with the staff on the community part and didn't think of bringing it up backstage first were the real problem lies (or well starts there with staff)



From Jackie,

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=29225
Seriously, why was this accepted. I really think you guys should just eliminate all personal pictures accepted unless there is a real reason for keeping them. Which is found rarely.



How about all these too?
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=28676
- I'm pretty positive that goes under icon collages, which then again I don't think were supposed to be accepted, since their pretty tacky anyways and more than likely they didn't make any of the icons or images off of the collages in which their taking credit for.

[Gypsy Eyes]

^

-No personal pictures. Keep in mind these pictures are to be used for graphics. No one is going to want a silly picture of you and your friend. If you want us to see what you look like, you should post the pictures in the Members' Photos threads in the Pictures forum.

A direct quote from the graphics submission rules.

All too small and poor quality
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2 (and didn't we agree not accept these along with the star hand pictures awhile back?)
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I think this is too simple

(directly from the rules)
-Repeated backgrounds: try not to make is to simple (ie: just dots/lines) There will be exceptions to this of course, if it is unique.

Please please please. I had brought this up several times backstage. Read both the rules and guidelines.

[stay infinite]

^Thank you

I was working my way there


Star hands, heart hands, whatever

-If there are already too many that are similar, it won't be accepted. (ie: no more heart hands, hands spelling out love, eyes, stop/danger/road signs, etc). Check around before you submit.
-No time stamps; they're highly unprofessional.
-No more hand/shoe/feet pictures.

About those times stamps, I have seen some floating around. I remember once someone said that if their not in the picture to much then its fine but seriously I don't think they should be accepted at all. From what is said above, their really unprofessional and its really easy to change those settings on the camera if they want their photo up here.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^You on xanga staff Rachael, if you knew this was happening and stuff why didn't you even bring it up with staff and ask them. I know theres plenty of design related threads backstage and I'm pretty positive you can check who accepted those and perhaps contact them about it as well Sorry if that came out rude or anything, no intention for it to sound that way

It's been brought up already... Just not by me. I just think the entire community needs to weigh in on this.

It'll probably get a lot stricter, and then people are gonna get upset... but oh well.

And for the record I can't see who's accepting what, just to let you know

[Gypsy Eyes]

^yes you can. it says "last edited by..."

[moorepocket]

i keep a look out for these when accepting.

[stay infinite]

^wow, yea its been like that forever. And usually most people don't go back and edit it so its pretty precise.


Also on this persons submissions:
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/index.p...uthor_id=285884
I know she confessed that she didn't take any of the pictures but still that would be under copyrighted images?

[Gypsy Eyes]

^x2
yeah you always have

Wait she didn't take them? I can't tell you how many times I verbally warned that girl. They shouldn't be up there at all.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^yes you can. it says "last edited by..."

Seriously?? I never noticed that.
Edit: whoa, I feel stupid

[stay infinite]

^ You've been on staff for how long Rachael? I thought there was something said about it from someone else?

[*digital.fragrance*]

... About... 1 1/2 month blip, and then counting now... so for about a year. I just never noticed that one line of to the side. I just concentrated on the graphic.

[Gypsy Eyes]

Also on this persons submissions:
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/index.p...uthor_id=285884
I know she confessed that she didn't take any of the pictures but still that would be under copyrighted images?

Are these going to be removed?

[stay infinite]

^I would hope so, I suppose we should give them some time though.

[Gypsy Eyes]

Oh it wasn't meant to sound like that. sorry.

[stay infinite]

No need for apologizing, I just took it the wrong way.

[*My Cinderella.*]

*twitch* Oh man, I see what you mean. I only caught a few good ones. I think we need to look over the accepted ones. Some of the graphics are bad quality.

[radhikaeatsraman]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=146495&hl=

I was told almost a year ago that this topic would be addressed and it still hasn't. We need to make the design staff realize this fact. I say if too many bad graphics get through certain queues, we penalize the mods responsible for those queues.

[freeflow]

Are these going to be removed?

I'll be going through it in a second. Even though she edited them, the photos still shouldn't have been accepted (as photos) in the first place since she didn't take them.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=146495&hl=

I was told almost a year ago that this topic would be addressed and it still hasn't. We need to make the design staff realize this fact. I say if too many bad graphics get through certain queues, we penalize the mods responsible for those queues.

So basically you want which ever mod is accepting bad graphics to not be able to accept graphics for a certain period of time? That wouldn't really work out too well. How exactly would that particular person learn from that experience. Its one thing to point out who accepted it and then possibly explain why it shouldn't have been accepted , but if your goal was to prohibit them from accepting , then why are they really on staff. Yes being on staff requires for you to spend some time in the forums, etc, but also being apart of the acceptance/rejection process is too. So I don't really understand what you mean by penalize them?

[demolished]

Had we not discussed this already?

Did moderator not followed the better/higher standard of graphic especially cB's House Cleanup?

[radhikaeatsraman]

I'll be going through it in a second. Even though she edited them, the photos still shouldn't have been accepted (as photos) in the first place since she didn't take them.
So basically you want which ever mod is accepting bad graphics to not be able to accept graphics for a certain period of time? That wouldn't really work out too well. How exactly would that particular person learn from that experience. Its one thing to point out who accepted it and then possibly explain why it shouldn't have been accepted , but if your goal was to prohibit them from accepting , then why are they really on staff. Yes being on staff requires for you to spend some time in the forums, etc, but also being apart of the acceptance/rejection process is too. So I don't really understand what you mean by penalize them?

We shouldn't have to complain multiple times in order for something to get done. If not letting them accept/reject graphics for a period of time will get them to realize that they need to step it up, then okay. And if it continues to happen? Demote them. cB members are looking for accountability from the mods.

[*mzkandi*]

I've often thought about what disciplinary action should take place for repeat offenders that continue to accept below standard work. I think some kind of system should be in place where we communicate with those mods as to address what they are accepting and what they should be accepting. I know some of our opinions vary on what should and should not be accepted but a person can train their eye for good design. For example, when I first became Head Staff I was accepting things that met my standards, if I liked it it was in, even if in hindsight some of what I was accepting was below standards. Usually it was because I liked the colors or quote or something. Then Jusun contacted and reminded me of quality over quantity. It made me think I'm not accepting for myself, I'm accepting for cB so I really need to up it up. This requires becoming more objective to each submitted work that is in the queue. Don't merely glance at it, decide you like it, and accept. Actually look at it. What do you like it? What works? What doesn't work? How does it compare with other great graphics and layouts in it's category that have been accepted? Don't go with thinking, "Hmm..meh, I'll accept it and if it isn't up to standards it'll simply be rid of when house cleaning comes around".