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post Aug 28 2004, 12:50 PM
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time never ends. because, if time ends, there must have been a begining. and if there is a begining, that means once there was never time.

but the thing is... making someing takes time.

so... time is never going to end.

but your time will end.
when you die.

and then, you will know if god exists or not.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Aug 28 2004, 11:36 AM)
how is that selfish...it states quite clearly in the Bible that believers will enter Pearly Gates, Walk streets of gold, and there will be seas made of crystal

LAUGH MY FVCKING ASS OFF.

WOW.

Do you really believe that you can assign earthly and concrete characteristics to the life that awaits people after death?

Does God have a long white beard too?
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 28 2004, 1:12 PM)
LAUGH MY FVCKING ASS OFF.

WOW.

Do you really believe that you can assign earthly and concrete characteristics to the life that awaits people after death?

Does God have a long white beard too?

no its beyond early characteristics...more then u can imagine...oh, i dunno if God has a beard...since we dunno what God looks like...but i do know u need to chill dude b/c ur offensive
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Aug 28 2004, 1:45 PM)
no its beyond early characteristics...more then u can imagine...oh, i dunno if God has a beard...since we dunno what God looks like...but i do know u need to chill dude b/c ur offensive

obviously there's no way that you can imagine what the after life will be like. but you said it was going to be a "sea full of crystals." are they going to be swarovski too?

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and of course God won't have a beard. see trying to explain God in our human terms is impossible. and although i think that the roof of the sistine chapel has some gorgeous paintings, i don't think they're too accurate.

i'm chilling. you're the one who is typing fanatical stuff and then posting it.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 28 2004, 11:12 AM)
LAUGH MY FVCKING ASS OFF.

WOW.

Do you really believe that you can assign earthly and concrete characteristics to the life that awaits people after death?

Does God have a long white beard too?

knock of the sarcasm, bud. mad.gif
thats what she believes. this isnt a topic where you can make fun of other beliefs. we all have our own perspective on what God is.


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Do you really believe that you can assign earthly and concrete characteristics to the life that awaits people after death?

ever seen a street made of pure gold? i dont think so.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 28 2004, 2:17 PM)
knock of the sarcasm, bud.  mad.gif
thats what she believes. this isnt a topic where you can make fun of other beliefs. we all have our own perspective on what God is.

ever seen a street made of pure gold? i dont think so.

i haven't been using any tactics that haven't been used before. remember this enlightened post by princess?

"first of all...Christianity DOES teach how to live...HELLLLLOOOOO the Bible....DUHHHER

and as i said before....i dunt give a crap what u call it b/c the fact is what i say is right...yeah i know ur gonna say its wrong...we'll just have to wait and see...i know whats gonna happen and perhaps you should grip the Truth b/c u never know when Jesus is gonna come"

and your last question was just... biggrin.gif

wow, God might as well be the wizard of oz then. laugh.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Aug 28 2004, 1:45 PM)
but i do know u need to chill dude b/c ur offensive

I think YOU need to chill, Princess, because you're seriously offending me and non-believers as well. What? You don't care to disrespect non-believers but it's NOT OKAY for us to disrespect you? What kind of Christian ARE YOU?

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this isnt a topic where you can make fun of other beliefs.

Sorry, I couldn't have guessed that from reading Princess's response towards me and non-believers. It's okay for her to say that God exists, but obviously it's not okay for non-believers to state their faith because SHE gets offended? rolleyes.gif Don't make me laugh any harder than I already am.

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how is that selfish...it states quite clearly in the Bible that believers will enter Pearly Gates, Walk streets of gold, and there will be seas made of crystal


Not only selfish, but incredibly UNCHRISTIAN. Selfish because you do not care to hurt other people's feelings and uncaring about your fellow man. UNCHRISTIAN because it's completely stupid to assume that you will go to Heaven if you just believe. Some murderers and rapists believe in God, but I don't think they'll see the "Pearly Gates" if they do not repent themselves.... uh DUH? Meaning, there's a good chance you'll go to Hell because you won't stop being mean and evil to other people.

It's UNCHRISTIAN to be so hostile, little grasshopper. I think, I'd make a pretty good Christian if I can ever bring myself to accept the Bible (and take away my pride, since that is sinful), or at least, a better Christian than yourself.

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Let me make this clear with the following example:

Cast:
Me (uninspiredfae)- Agnostic who's keenly devoted to the ideals of Deism, Humanism, and Existentialism.
You (Princess)- Christian who's keenly "devoted" to God's words.

The Play (which sums up ALL our previous conversations, including God 1):

Me: Hey Princess, I dislike the Bible because I think both Bible and Church are untrue and act as middlemen, thing/people that/who stands between the relationship of Man and God.

You: HEATHEN!!!! DEVIL WORSHIPPER!!!! You're going to Hell and I'll be in Heaven with God!

Me: Uh... okay, you know, there are other faiths out there and not everyone believe in God.

You: They're WRONG. SOOOOO WRONG... SO VERRRRY WRONG. There's only ONE Truth and you're going to Hell for believing otherwise.

Me: Okay, now you're just pissing me off. Do you believe you'll be with God when you're obviously very hostile and angry at non-believers like that? Who are you to judge who's going to Hell? I thought God told you NOT to judge. Are you sure you're doing what God wants you to do by hating on non-believers like you are now? PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME WANT TO BECOME AN ATHEIST.

You: Well, you'RE WRONG. SOOOOOOO WRONG. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG.

Me: Okay happy.gif, keep telling yourself that.

You: You're going to Hell.

Me: I'll see you there laugh.gif

THE END.

How's that? Well, notice that I used more correct grammar and spelling in your dialogue than you are capable... just to be nice.


As for this:
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senseless? lmao ok we'll see what you think on Judgement Day...ur gonna feel pretty stupid...


Okay, but at least I'm not stupid now. Kthnxbi.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 05:42 PM
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you couldnt get the picture even if your name was kodak... cool.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 28 2004, 5:42 PM)
you couldnt get the picture even if your name was kodak... cool.gif

Who? Moi? huh.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 28 2004, 1:56 PM)
Sorry, I couldn't have guessed that from reading Princess's response towards me and non-believers. It's okay for her to say that God exists, but obviously it's not okay for non-believers to state their faith because SHE gets offended? rolleyes.gif Don't make me laugh any harder than I already am.


Not only selfish, but incredibly UNCHRISTIAN. Selfish because you do not care to hurt other people's feelings and uncaring about your fellow man. UNCHRISTIAN because it's completely stupid to assume that you will go to Heaven if you just believe. Some murderers and rapists believe in God, but I don't think they'll see the "Pearly Gates" if they do not repent themselves.... uh DUH? Meaning, there's a good chance you'll go to Hell because you won't stop being mean and evil to other people.

It's UNCHRISTIAN to be so hostile, little grasshopper. I think, I'd make a pretty good Christian if I can ever bring myself to accept the Bible (and take away my pride, since that is sinful), or at least, a better Christian than yourself.

yea. well.. princess- she has a point there. you are being.. not "selfish" but.. ignorant? [no offense tho]i dont know.. you just dont seem to see the world around you. just yourself and what you belive in. hey- its great that you have your love for Christ and want to share it, but this should be a debate, not a "leading everyone to Christ" or "saying everyone who doesnt belive in God will go to hell" or any kind of stuff like that.

can you just soften down the tone and try to look at it from other people's point of views? haha im done. wink.gif tongue.gif

dont hate. <33
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 28 2004, 5:55 PM)
dont hate. <33


The only haters I see here are those that condem non-believers to Hell... sad.gif

Belief is a sad thing somtimes.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 06:13 PM
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theres alot of haters!! but i think the real haters are the ones that hate on god...*brush them off* cool.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 28 2004, 6:13 PM)
theres alot of haters!! but i think the real haters are the ones that hate on god...*brush them off* cool.gif

Remember that hating God is a very radical thing to say... most atheists and agnostics are indifferent, NOT hateful.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 28 2004, 6:14 PM)
Remember that hating God is a very radical thing to say... most atheists and agnostics are indifferent, NOT hateful.

i didnt mean 2 say taht some atheists and agnostics are haters my bad!..i ment 2 say taht pple that hate on god are haters...u kno pple taht dont like him and say he is fake...or even throw dirt at him thats wat i ment ... cool.gif
 
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 28 2004, 6:19 PM)
i didnt mean 2 say taht some atheists and agnostics are haters my bad!..i ment 2 say taht pple that hate on god are haters...u kno pple taht dont like him and say he is fake...or even throw dirt at him thats wat i ment ... cool.gif

Well, some people doubt His existence simply because they don't care, some just don't believe in the super natural, and others just want to piss off self-righteous christians. The last group is the one that should bother you all, but the first two are... innocent.
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 28 2004, 6:24 PM)
Well, some people doubt His existence simply because they don't care, some just don't believe in the super natural, and others just want to piss off self-righteous christians. The last group is the one that should bother you all, but the first two are... innocent.

yup those are haters the pple that want 2 piss off christians...cuz they always try 2 put them down cuz there christians and they cant make mistakes lol tahts funny some christians dont get bothered so easy cool.gif w/e god is good ...1
 
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 28 2004, 6:36 PM)
yup those are haters the pple that want 2 piss off christians...cuz they always try 2 put them down cuz there christians and they cant make mistakes lol tahts funny some christians dont get bothered so easy cool.gif w/e god is good ...1

Princess is obviously bothered, and she's a Christian... mellow.gif and I don't even consider myself to be in the third group. Oh well...
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 28 2004, 6:43 PM)
Princess is obviously bothered, and she's a Christian... mellow.gif and I don't even consider myself to be in the third group. Oh well...

yea some christians get ticked off faster...bcuz they try 2 make a point...but pple get back at them...so they get mad easier...but its all good we all try 2 do wat god wants us 2 do aslong as we dont insult the other persons opinions or religion...try to do wat god would do.....wat do u mean in the third group??
 
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 28 2004, 6:51 PM)
yea some christians get ticked off faster...bcuz they try 2 make a point...but pple get back at them...so they get mad easier...but its all good we all try 2 do wat god wants us 2 do aslong as we dont insult the other persons opinions or religion...try to do wat god would do.....wat do u mean in the third group??

"Third group" refers to people who make christians pissed on purpose. I'm just here to respone to some cryptic remarks and condemnations, in other words, to justify my disbelief (in the Bible and Church).
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 28 2004, 6:59 PM)
"Third group" refers to people who make christians pissed on purpose. I'm just here to respone to some cryptic remarks and condemnations, in other words, to justify my disbelief (in the Bible and Church).

yea i get u...im here 2 express my opinions and how i feel also....im not trying to disrespect other pple on there beliefs and stuff....even do it would be awesome to change pples belief and make them understand mines...but then again its so different talking in person then talking on a message board......but some pple just get mad and disrespect other.. but hey w/e god loves us..... cool.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 28 2004, 5:55 PM)
yea. well.. princess- she has a point there. you are being.. not "selfish" but.. ignorant? [no offense tho]i dont know.. you just dont seem to see the world around you. just yourself and what you belive in. hey- its great that you have your love for Christ and want to share it, but this should be a debate, not a "leading everyone to Christ" or "saying everyone who doesnt belive in God will go to hell" or any kind of stuff like that.

can you just soften down the tone and try to look at it from other people's point of views? haha im done.   wink.gif tongue.gif

dont hate. <33

k iono how saying im going to Heaven is being selfish...but w/e selfish or not, thats where im going...and i have had enough of you ppl's hate here...i'll see u on Judgement Day...i will walk through the Pearly Gates...and i dunt think quoting the Bible is selfish at all


Edit:: OHHHH and btw i didnt say anyone was going to hell...infact, i made it clear that only God's Judgement matters to me...also i dunt have a very harsh tone...and btw this post coming from you was quite suprising....k im done





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Sorry, I couldn't have guessed that from reading Princess's response towards me and non-believers. It's okay for her to say that God exists, but obviously it's not okay for non-believers to state their faith because SHE gets offended?  Don't make me laugh any harder than I already am.


what? fae...i have never made fun of u not beliving the same as me...i completly disagree with you, but i dunt make sarcastic jokes about what u believe n then laugh my butt off thinking im so clever b/c oooo i got to make sumeone cry...my gosh...
 
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Aug 28 2004, 8:58 PM)
what? fae...i have never made fun of u not beliving the same as me...i completly disagree with you, but i dunt make sarcastic jokes about what u believe n then laugh my butt off thinking im so clever b/c oooo i got to make sumeone cry...my gosh...

Oh so now you're lying... what a sinner you are!!!! You haven't made fun of me? You haven't made sarcastic jokes? You're a very BAD liar, grasshopper, because I know how sarcastic and mean you can be... and even in the last post you directed towards me was uncalled for. I AM laughing my butt off, but only at your incessant lying.

If you have the guts to say that I'm going to Hell, why don't you have the guts to say what you really want to say instead of pretending like God's perfect little creation? Hmm, so now you're saying that you never said for me to go to Hell, eh? What's the difference between saying "wait til Judgement Day and then I'll be with God" thus insinuating that I won't and saying "you'll go to Hell"?... I may be a little dense TO YOU in your little world, but I happen to be pretty bright (Look ma, I can spell!).

I have enough of your deceit, little girl. Don't bother to PM me anymore. Even though I may be a little off sometimes with my kind of philosophy according to you, I consider myself a person of, at least, some morals, and that means, I DON'T LIKE TWO FACE PEOPLE. mad.gif Don't pretend to act all nice to me one moment, and then curse me to Hell, you little runt.

You've been hostile not only to me, but also to other people who happens to hold a different view point on this God topic, but everything was just dandy until you decided to play dirty and deny all the nasty and mean stuff you've said in the past.

Anyway, have a nice life with God, I'll just have a nice life with the other possibilities, I think I'll just be as content, thank you very much. (DON'T YOU DARE PM ME ANYMORE).




Okay.... yawn.gif Got that out of my system.
 
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Edit:: OHHHH and btw i didnt say anyone was going to hell...infact, i made it clear that only God's Judgement matters to me...also i dunt have a very harsh tone...and btw this post coming from you was quite suprising....k im done


imm.. sorry? ermm.gif coming from me? well.. i guess we both have differnt beliefs on what God is... who knows what God is really like? guess we'll find out when we go to heaven... wink.gif

cmmon you guys, where is the love?

..i think we need to start a new topic on GOd. look! page 21! [remember that the first one went up to pg 50? or was it 60? woww.]
 
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QUOTE(GinaDaQueen @ Jun 12 2004, 11:21 AM)
Of course, some non-Christians think we're know-it-alls because we say our religion is the only right one, but it's the same with doctors.  If you were really sick, and a doctor told you to take Medicine A and it's the only way to survive, would you not take it because you think that the doctor is just lying for his own sake?  No.  You have to have fatih that the medicine will work, or that God exists.  We're telling you that our "medicine" works.  Now whether you take it or not is up to you.

Sorry, that doesn't have enough proof to support your opinion.

Of course you must have faith that Medicine A will work. But keep in mind that the medicine had to go through tests to determine its effectiveness. It's PROVEN that the medicine will work, or have a high percentage of working.

Has God been proven to work, or to reword, exist? No.
 
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Sep 7 2004, 11:37 PM)
Sorry, that doesn't have enough proof to support your opinion.

Of course you must have faith that Medicine A will work. But keep in mind that the medicine had to go through tests to determine its effectiveness. It's PROVEN that the medicine will work.

Has God been proven? No.

there are allergic reactions to medicine

Love=proof of God...true love never fails
Medicine sometimes fails
 

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