god, part 2 Options

[IIO__oII]

that's a bit like a cult ruler, don't you think?

you shall have no other gods before me?

he's reconizing that there are other gods, but he's calling them fake gods, not real.

cult leaders recognize other gods...?

[sadolakced acid]

cult rulers reconize other cult rulers, but say they are the only true rulers.

well, just depends on the cult. and of course, it wouldn't be a cult if the leader didn't have sexual privalages with every woman in the cult. mary, anyone?

[princess2113]

well, just depends on the cult.

well of course, it just depends on the religion...n Christians, nor God, recognize other "gods"

[CrimsonArchangel]

in doing so he also created disease

God didn't create disease. The devil brought it upon humanity because we humans sin.

I myself don't always understand why things happen. "Why did God allow that person to die? He was a saint. Why did God allow my mom to get sick? She never did anything wrong." I really don't know myself why those things happen... so I guess someone is going to have to teach me here....
I do know that God loves us all, believer or not, and he doesn't want anything wrong to happen to anyone. It is a person's choice to follow God or not. And there is always the chance to repent.
Its all up to the individual.

he's reconizing that there are other gods, but he's calling them fake gods, not real

That passage does not talk about "gods" as in statues and paintings and the such. There are people who get so absorved and involved in certain things that they rule their lives. Cronic alcoholics live for alcohol. That is considered a god because that person is letting alcohol rule his/her life.
TV can be a "god", the internet can be a "god".
That verse calls gods whatever you (general statement here, not singling anyone out) obsess over and let it rule your life. You now how they say, "Even too much of a good thing is bad", so in my opinion, religious fanatics are creepy.

Ok.... now I have to return to camp.... Me don't wanna.... I've been worked like a mule.... I'm so tired, haha.

[IIO__oII]

Uh, Princess, those are nice and all, but it doesn't answer to my point:

Which is Exodus 20:3 specifically say that Christians shall not believe in other gods as they believe in God. Which implies that there ARE other gods, but God only wants you to worship Him alone.

i think God is saying that there ARE gods that people MADE up... and that they are fake. God isnt made up.

[sadolakced acid]

oh, god created disease. god created suffering. god is juust like the kid who gets an antfarm for christmas and proceeds to make a nice farm, then gets bored and tourtures the ants. that is, of course, assumming that he actually did create the universe.

and i would like to personally congratulate jesus. he convinced billions of people he was the son of god. man, he'd make a great lawyer.


no one can prove the existance of god. face it. live with it.

[Spirited Away]

i think God is saying that there ARE gods that people MADE up... and that they are fake.

But that's not what He says. He just says you shall have no other gods before me. He doesn't say that "because they're made up".

God isnt made up. 

That's what you think, and that's an opinion according to the non-believers population.

[princess2113]

But that's not what He says. He just says you shall have no other gods before me. He doesn't say that "because they're made up".


That's what you think, and that's an opinion according to the non-believers population.

yeah He doesnt say its cuz they exist either and He DOES say that He is the ONLY REAL God...He DOES recognize that PEOPLE make up FAKE "gods"

no thats a fact that in your opinion is an opinion

[Spirited Away]

yeah He doesnt say its cuz they exist either and He DOES say that He is the ONLY REAL God...He DOES recognize that PEOPLE make up FAKE "gods"

Erm why would He not recognize that other gods exist, and then turn around to tell His followers not to follow them? *Scratches head*. You're making no sense to me. He doesn't say that they're fake gods, He just say "gods", not "fake gods".

no thats a fact that in your opinion is an opinion

And once again, you show your age, little grasshoper.

A universal fact must be deemed as so by people agreeing to it, if people do not, it's merely an unsupported fact believed by people who don't care to believe in something unproven.

So you see, religions are all about opinions. Sure, sure, I'm opinionated, but you're no better. Don't go crying about it, though, be happy that God "loves" you. I'm happy because I make sense to me.

[sadolakced acid]

it's only your opinion that it's a fact.

but there is no proof that god exists, no?
what proof might you have that there is a god? what proof that your god is the true god?

none, whatsoever. just a book, written by humans. you can't deny it's written by humans.

there is no evidence that god is more than an idea in people's minds.

[onenonly101]

We never said that the bible wasn't recorded by humans. Yes humans wrote it down, but the words came from God.

We come back to the same arguemnt, you say we can't prove God exists and you can't prove he doesn't. Like it goes in the courtroom we are the defendants saying God is real and true and you are the prosecutor. You have to make your case we don't. And it is up to the people to decide who they want to believe

[Spirited Away]

We come back to the same arguemnt, you say we can't prove God exists and you can't prove he doesn't. Like it goes in the courtroom we are the defendants saying God is real and true and you are the prosecutor. You have to make your case we don't. And it is up to the people to decide who they want to believe

Really? I thought the roles are reversed, because I don't care to believe, but I get people criticizing me for not believing.

[onenonly101]

The world is full of haters and hypocrites, the sad thing is a good amount are Christians, who believe they are above someone else. I can't stand that, for someone to critize me or tell me i and not "faithful" enough.

[Spirited Away]

The world is full of haters and hypocrites, the sad thing is a good amount are Christians, who believe they are above someone else. I can't stand that, for someone to critize me or tell me i and not "faithful" enough.

*Pat Pat*, non-believers will criticize why I don't disbelieve more... I've heard it before, too, so don't think I'm making it up.

[sadolakced acid]

haha.

god doesn't exist if you don't prove he does.
and you are doing a terrible job of it.


the thing is, christians ignore all reasoning and evidence that god does not exist.

and nonbelivers listen to all evidence that god does.

and yet, you have not convinced them. now why is that?

[onenonly101]

If no one were convinced that there is a God there wouldn't be Christians and people wouldn't be becoming Christians everyday.

There is no evidence that God does not exist? have you read the 69 pages of this God topic? No one can prove that God doesn't exist there is no evidence for it. I can prove God exists in my way, but i cannot make someone believe if they don't want to. It comes down to the person, do they want to believe in something more and have God have control of their life or do they want to rule their own life and not have any assurance. It is not reasoning. It is speculation.

[sadolakced acid]

i never said no one was convinced.

i said, there are still none belivers out there. even though they listen to every piece of evidence given that god exists.

[neonBEATs]

In order to believe in God, you dont have to have any proof that God exists. Thats what faith is, it is believing in something even if you can't see it. I'm a Christian, and I've questioned many times if God even exists, and if anything in the bible is true. But sometimes you just have to have faith. I also don't think that believing in God means you want someone to rule your life. It means you have somone watching over you, and someome to talk to in times of trouble. I think believing in God gives you comfort and strength in hard times, and brings people together. Now I'm not trying to convince anybody, or tell anyone they're wrong. Thats just what I think. Its pretty hard to put what you believe in words!

[lilconfusedbabii...]

wen some of u guys are burning in the flames of hell, im going to be crying for u and the others who are with u down there, while im in heaven...

celebrate God!

[IIO__oII]

And once again, you show your age, little grasshoper.

stop being immature and show some respect to the other debate team... ok?

the thing is, christians ignore all reasoning and evidence that god does not exist.

and nonbelivers listen to all evidence that god does.

... are you SURE that all nonbelivers actually listen to all the evidence that God DOES exist?!?!

[Spirited Away]

stop being immature and show some respect to the other debate team... ok?

Yes, "Mother", I won't be sarcastic again.

, are you insane child? I give respect where it's warranted, got it? And when I don't see a need to be nice, hell if I care if I hurt anyone's feelings. You're not debating, you're complaining. Get over it.

... are you SURE that all nonbelivers actually listen to all the evidence that God DOES exist?!?!

Listening and believing are two different things, and I thought you'd be old enough to understand that by now.

[bibliomania]

wen some of u guys are burning in the flames of hell, im going to be crying for u and the others who are with u down there, while im in heaven...

celebrate God!

I'd rather "burn in hell" than to believe in something that I don't believe is true... No offense, but you make believing in God sound like as if you're only believing in him because you wanna go to heaven.

[princess2113]

Yes, "Mother", I won't be sarcastic again.

lol

I'd rather "burn in hell" than to believe in something that I don't believe is true... No offense, but you make believing in God sound like as if you're only believing in him because you wanna go to heaven.

i believe in Him, because He IS the Truth...but i wanna go to Heaven...btw when ur burning in hell, ur idea about that is gonna change

[sadolakced acid]

i believe in Him, because He IS the Truth...but i wanna go to Heaven...btw when ur burning in hell, ur idea about that is gonna change

wen some of u guys are burning in the flames of hell, im going to be crying for u and the others who are with u down there, while im in heaven...

celebrate god!

what makes you so sure that i am going to burn? what makes you so sure you are going to heaven?

i belive in god, just not the same one, and not in jesus. am i pretty much good. i have done some bad stuff, but everyone has. i've done much more good.

and i am going to burn in hell. what fun.

do i really want to be in heaven, 'enjoying the presence' of a god who would condemn a person to eternal tourture simply for not beliving in him? is this a merciful god?

if everything you belive, all of it, if all of what you belive (if you belive everything the bible says), then i would rather burn.

[bibliomania]

i believe in Him, because He IS the Truth...but i wanna go to Heaven...btw when ur burning in hell, ur idea about that is gonna change

How is my idea about Hell going to change when I'm burning in there?

That it's hotter than I thought it was? Oh, shall I send you a postcard from Hell?

It sounds like you want me to burn in Hell, not anyone "up" there?!

And I hope you're not telling everyone who doesn't believe in God that they're going to burn in hell, because as "truthful" as it is, it's not very nice! What you're basically doing is making people believe in (your) God because of the repercussions if you don't.