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Graphic venting, vent it all out. because i need to >_>
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:18 AM
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^ So true. As designers we know you guys are mad, but when you submit your stuff you set yourself up for this stuff. Personally I think that you guys should go on being pissed, because heck I would be too. But spamming their forums is immature....

blaqheartedstar - Your post was not one we, well atleast I am worried about. you simply said stolen layout. There is nothing wrong with that. Which is actually a rather mature way of handling it.

In Holly's post, we (yes Holly and I) are basically referring to this... If you want to spam there sites talk about it somewhere else. Obviously you guys are friends so you can do it through AIM/PM or whatever you choose. Just lets keep this thread on the topic jocked layouts without the whole subject of flaming other forums.

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im not tellin the ppls to spam it here daer, this is a designer cafe, i think every designer should get their anger somewhere after all it is a designer CAFE anything designing related =) this is related to that.

Yes but Designer cafe is treated like the lounge. Continuing to run this thread like this will get it closed. So you can choose how this turns out.

If you want to list the sites... Go ahead. If you go on posting " Stolen" there is nothing wrong with that. But posting stuff like this (here):
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Wow. Thanks a LOT Ricky. Now I'm gonna go spam your list of sites.

Is not need or called for. Basically its a cooperative effort between you guys. We want to keep this to the point, not to what you guys want to do to other forums.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 4 2007, 1:09 AM) *
I would have a problem with that? yes... but you don't understand, I don't submit my graphics to this site for that very reason. If I submit my graphics to this site, it's as if I never created them. Anyone can have their way with them.


seeing as you will have a problem if people claimed ur work as theirs
then why are we to sit and let people steal our layouts and graphics?

QUOTE(toyo loco @ Mar 4 2007, 1:18 AM) *
Your post was not one we, well atleast I am worried about. you simply said stolen layout. There is nothing wrong with that. Which is actually a rather mature way of handling it.


yeah although i said spam i didn't want to get banned without proving a point
this turned into something i wasn't expecting...
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:24 AM
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^Then don't submit your stuff to this site, he said that he didn't have to deal with this problem because he doesn't submit his stuff here. So if you don't submit your stuff here, viola! you don't have the problem either.


Also your not going to get banned blink.gif The topic would just simply be closed.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 4 2007, 1:19 AM) *
seeing as you will have a problem if people claimed ur work as theirs
then why are we to sit and let people steal our layouts and graphics?
yeah although i said spam i didn't want to get banned without proving a point
this turned into something i wasn't expecting...


You aren't getting it... I understand you are upset, but by submitting your work to the database it's "up for grabs". I would have a problem with people taking my stuff, and that's exactly why I don't submit it to the website.

This is essentially what I'm trying to tell you guys is: YOU ARE CREATING YOUR OWN PROBLEMS, and YOU ARE LETTING PEOPLE STEAL YOUR WORK...
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 4 2007, 1:30 AM) *
You aren't getting it... I understand you are upset, but by submitting your work to the database it's "up for grabs". I would have a problem with people taking my stuff, and that's exactly why I don't submit it to the website.

This is essentially what I'm trying to tell you guys is: YOU ARE CREATING YOUR OWN PROBLEMS, and YOU ARE LETTING PEOPLE STEAL YOUR WORK...


Letting?, unless it is said specifically IN the layout that "YOU CAN YEA STEAL THIS LAYOUT I DONT CARE" then yea that's "letting" people steal our work. i already told you
NO MATTER WHERE YOU SUBMIT THE LAYOUT, THE LAYOUT IS STILL YOURS, YOUR WORK, YOUR EFFORT, YOUR TIME, YOUR LAYOUT.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:34 AM
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Also your not going to get banned blink.gif The topic would just simply be closed.



banned from friendster
i would cry if i get banned from here... cry.gif i really enjoy CB

ok enough of this i don't want the topic to close
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:36 AM
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we start from me complaining how ppls contribute my layouts without my permission to jockers. xD interesting x]
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:37 AM
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Without limitation of the foregoing, CreateBlog shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter existing rights to the Submissions of every kind and nature throughout the universe and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Submissions for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the provider of the Submissions.

Yea also this,
By posting or submitting content to CreateBlog, you grant CreateBlog the right to use, reproduce, display, perform, adapt, modify, distribute, have distributed, and promote the content in any form
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:39 AM
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Let me read you a passage from the almighty Creatblog.com "Bible"...

(Terms of use: 12:13)
Submissions

By posting or submitting content to CreateBlog, you grant CreateBlog the right to use, reproduce, display, perform, adapt, modify, distribute, have distributed, and promote the content in any form, anywhere and for any purpose; and warrant and represent that you own or otherwise control all of the rights to the content and that public posting and use of your content by CreateBlog will not infringe or violate the rights of any third party.

If you contribute layouts, scripts, graphics, tutorials, creative suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, or other information (collectively, the "Submissions"), the Submissions shall be deemed, and shall remain, the property of CreateBlog. None of the Submissions shall be subject to any obligation of confidence on the part of CreateBlog, and CreateBlog shall not be liable for any use or disclosure of any Submissions. Without limitation of the foregoing, CreateBlog shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter existing rights to the Submissions of every kind and nature throughout the universe and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Submissions for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the provider of the Submissions.


Sorry guys... but when you click that "submit" button. This is what you're agreeing to. Let's hope staff is merciful enough to take them off the site when you get your own host.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:40 AM
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(I don't think this should be closed since something productive is actually coming out of it. :P)

When you put your layouts (or anything else) up, you can't assume that people won't steal it. Unless you want to waste all that much time and energy, it won't be good to try to hunt down every jocker. What you can do though is make others aware that the layout is stolen, nothing more, nothing less. I noticed blaqheartedstar simply stated that the layout was stolen at Friendster forums and that was it. Spamming/flaming/trolling the site(s) is not the best approach but I obviously can't stop you.

Edit: But Holly, createblog's owner isn't distributing to other layout sites, just individuals who want to use them. Hmm, I see the problem.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Mar 4 2007, 1:40 AM) *
(I don't think this should be closed since something productive is actually coming out of it. :P)

When you put your layouts (or anything else) up, you can't assume that people won't steal it. Unless you want to waste all that much time and energy, it won't be good to try to hunt down every jocker. What you can do though is make others aware that the layout is stolen, nothing more, nothing less. I noticed blaqheartedstar simply stated that the layout was stolen at Friendster forums and that was it. Spamming/flaming/trolling the site(s) is not the best approach but I obviously can't stop you.

Edit: But Holly, createblog's owner isn't distributing to other layout sites, just individuals who want to use them. Hmm, I see the problem.


For all you know, Ju-sun could be selling them....
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:47 AM
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i know that CB owns the layouts and that i have no problem with, its like Deviantart and sheezyart, they have a right to your your work... its no soo much CB owning our layouts... i don't mind
and i know we can't hunt down EVERY jocker... but the ones i do bump across i let them know that the layout they are using is mines

with friendster i wanted to make a point and let the people who use the layouts know what the person who posted them mainly The Baddest Chic
that the layouts they were posting isn't theirs even if they lie and say it is

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For all you know, Ju-sun could be selling them....

wouldn't that go againist the pics and resources that have copyrights?

edited: my there, their, they're all all messed up..
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 4 2007, 1:43 AM) *
For all you know, Ju-sun could be selling them....
I doubt that. :P And even though I don't know him all that well, I've still communicated with him more often than you have to say that he is against charging a fee for layouts and other submissions. He's wanted to keep things free and for everyone, not exclusive groups, i.e., Official Members/Designers, and I don't see why that would change. :P

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with friendster i wanted to make a point and let the people who use the layouts know what the person who posted them mainly The Baddest Chic
that the layouts they were posting isn't there even if they lie and say it is
Yes, I know. I meant it's a good thing you just left it at saying the layout was stolen. :) I usually just provide a link to the layout and leave it at that.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 4 2007, 1:47 AM) *
wouldn't that go againist the pics and resources that have copyrights?


No, not at all.... after all He owns them... ;]
(CB = Ju-sun)
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Mar 4 2007, 1:50 AM) *
Yes, I know. I meant it's a good thing you just left it at saying the layout was stolen. :) I usually just provide a link to the layout and leave it at that.


i did that and the fourms on friendster has to be the gayest fourm i have ever used (no offense to homosexual people mellow.gif )
it turned the createblog links into http://www.FriendsterForum.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092
when the original link was
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092

http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9311.0.html
take a look
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:05 AM
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Josh, Ju-Sun is NOT going to start selling layouts, all right? laugh.gif

QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 4 2007, 1:58 AM) *
i did that and the fourms on friendster has to be the gayest fourm i have ever used (no offense to homosexual people mellow.gif )
it turned the createblog links into http://www.FriendsterForum.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092
when the original link was
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092

http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9311.0.html
take a look
I'm asked to log in for the first link. Anway, I hope the word createblog isn't censored because that's silly.

What if you removed http://?
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Mar 4 2007, 2:05 AM) *
Josh, Ju-Sun is NOT going to start selling layouts, all right? laugh.gif

I'm asked to log in for the first link. Anway, I hope the word createblog isn't censored because that's silly.

What if you removed http://?



first link is what they turned the original CB into
heres a screen shot-- well that went out the window lmfao they banned me XD.gif



they didn't tell me anything if anything the warning i got was a rased warning... and a reduced warning right after

ur banned for violating the agreement
and this... bias bastards
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You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material.

why isn't the asses posting the layouts not banned?

i understand why i was banned...
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Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 11:56 AM
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Most likely because they like her on the forum or they don't believe you guys. But anyways I would say instead of posting try contacting the admin of the forum.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:51 PM
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the admin "has hidden their email and you can not email them."
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:11 PM
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Well according to his info he does have an msn account. I added it and I'll see if its possible if I can reach him. Along with attempting to reach the girl who is continuing to post your layouts. If I am able to contact any of them, I will let you know. Actually , I'll just try to contact any of the moderators I can. To see if its possible for them to delete the posts. (Deleting the user would be great too, but who knows).

I'm not positive but his email may be his msn email. (Which is what most people use). You can see it by viewing the profile.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:24 PM
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Without limitation of the foregoing, CreateBlog shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter existing rights to the Submissions of every kind and nature throughout the universe and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Submissions for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the provider of the Submissions.

Lol, I like that "universe" part. XD.gif

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i did that and the fourms on friendster has to be the gayest fourm i have ever used (no offense to homosexual people mellow.gif )
it turned the createblog links into http://www.FriendsterForum.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092
when the original link was
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092

http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9311.0.html
take a look

I know! I noticed that, and it pissed me off.
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 04:11 PM
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I pmed a bunch of their moderators till I got reply. I finally did and they told me to link the layouts and provide proof. So I did , but only for the ones I could actually find. So if you guys could help me find the following , but it has to be a cb link. If its not it needs to be on your layout site or website.

http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ll-t6526.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ce-t6540.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t6551.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t6549.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ly-t8936.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...es-t6542.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...lt-t6533.0.html
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema..._2-t6547.0.html


If they are not on cb I wouldn't be surprised.

Here is the pm that I sent to the person, with a list of layouts. I would appreciate it, if one more of you guys double checks that I didn't miss any. Its not guaranteed they will remove the layouts , but I will try my best to get them too. Plus this pm took a long ass time.
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Ok . I am not the creator of the jocked layouts. But I can give you my forum information about them along with layout info there. The forum that the layouts are being jocked from is Createblog. (http://createblog.com To see the layouts you go to layouts)

My username there is Toyo Loco , and I am a design staff mod there. You can find me here:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showuser=11270

I am aware that these layouts are jocked, their may be more, but I can have the users check. Now if you look at the dates on the createblog links you will notice it was posted there before this forum. Also the images your members posted have our users names on them.
These two users have been doing all the submitting. If it was my forum I'd ban them , but its not so yea. :
-The Baddest Chic
- Friendster Forum

Natalie Portman :
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9001.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16450


Imagination:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t6529.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14927

Snoopy valentine layout:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ut-t9143.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16516


Alvin & the chipmunks:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9308.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16544


Dogs rule:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9311.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16092


Nothings perfect:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ly-t9313.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=16017

Ispace :
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9238.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16532

Girls only:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ly-t8896.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15888


Don't let my love fade:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...de-t8836.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16406

Stab my back:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ck-t8898.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15694


Keep holding on:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t8838.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=16138


Another side:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t8837.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16301


Am I in your dreams:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ms-t8773.0.html
Createblog Url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16193


Batman & Beyond:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ay-t8771.0.html
Createblog Url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16308


My chemical Romance:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t6535.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=14894

Of flowers and Trees:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ees-t8754.0.htm
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16377

Love:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ve-t8768.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16385

Bubble Gum baby:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ay-t8770.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16288

Gloomy div:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t9002.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16307

Lain:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ng-t8894.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=161611

Puppy Love:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ve-t8772.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=164177

Lethal Beauty:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t8893.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=162319

OMFG Div:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t8938.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=151668

Random mess:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ss-t8935.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15778

Rose by another name:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...me-t8933.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=16441

Justin Timberlake:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ke-t6562.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14624

Leaves of fate:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...te-t6530.0.html
Createblog Url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=154946

White Skeleton:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...on-t6550.0.html
Createblog url:

Pussycat Dolls:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ls-t6559.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14627

Just listen:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...en-t6558.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14634

Greys Anatomy:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...my-t6553.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=153568

Step up:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...na-t6563.0.html
Createblog Url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14623

Danity Kane:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ne-t6561.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14625

Cassie:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ie-t6560.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14626

Mininmalist:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...st-t6557.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14654

Wake up:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...iv-t6555.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=161952

Happy Halloween:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...en-t6536.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14882

I would give my all to you :
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ou-t6541.0.html
Createblog url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14849

For girls only:
http://www.friendsterforum.com/forum/prema...ly-t8936.0.html
Createblog Url: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15260

I would really appreciate it , if you guys removed these layouts. The creators do not want their layouts posted on your site because you didn't ask for permission the first time. There is a topic at createblog where you can view their anger ... if you wish too.

Thanks,
Toya ™

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Ill send this up my chain..
Thanks for the notice..
Ill keep you updated and posted..
Please do send this message to the admin himself too..

 
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Wow. Thanks a lot, toyo loco. _smile.gif
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 05:12 PM
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for Naruto 2
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14762

Naruto
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14795

for mr sutherland
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14710

for White Skeleton
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14726

for pretty in pink
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14745

for girls only (blue layout)
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15260
 
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post Mar 4 2007, 06:29 PM
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^ Thankyou.

I spoke to their Admin. He said he would remove the layouts. BUT understand that you guys can not go back and spam there. If you didn't notice they didn't care about your spam. It did not convince them to get rid of the layouts....

So I PMed the admin all the layouts I want gone. He said he would remove them. I'll make sure they do keep their word. If you see any I missed please pm me.

 

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