Jesus Tomb FOUND!, Sorry if the wrong topic. |
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Jesus Tomb FOUND!, Sorry if the wrong topic. |
Mar 4 2007, 02:22 PM
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![]() Photoartist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
This discovery is not that great. "Jesus" and "Mary" were two very common first names during Christ's time. There's no way of knowing which Jesus and Mary are buried in that particular tomb. It's sort of like if Christ lived on earth now, and his name had been "John" or "William" or something, and 2000 years from now archaeologists were to find a grave marked "John", it would prove nothing, because there are countless Johns about. A very common argument I keep hearing... Makes sense, but the argument's still not a very strong one. With all the names found together, it'd be hard for it to be just a coincidence.jesus NEVER got married in his life OR had a son --; And to be honest, this is probably just my lack of knowledge, but what evidence would you use to prove that Jesus never got married?Jesus was buried, but he physically rose from the dead (and Mary Magdalene found the tomb empty) , so this "finding" would crush my beliefs. |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:25 PM
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long time no CB. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,889 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 493,502 |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:28 PM
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Mar 4 2007, 02:33 PM
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![]() Photoartist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
I don't know. Would his soul just up and leave his body? I don't know. Well, my point is that I just wouldn't leave out that his actual physical body could have been left behind. I guess that's only assuming one would know that there's more to a person than the material body though.
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Mar 4 2007, 02:34 PM
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long time no CB. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,889 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 493,502 |
well the bible didn't say anything about Jesus getting married,
it just tells stories about Jesus, and how Jesus died, and how he went to heaven. if that picture is supposed to be the tomb, ehh.. i seriously thought Jesus died in some kind of cave thing where they covered it with a stone though I mean, Jesus wasn't buried in that thing [the rock box thing in the picture] i'm pretty sure he wasn't |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:37 PM
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well the bible didn't say anything about Jesus getting married, I think the story goes that he was in a cave where it was covered with a stone, and then he was resurrected and his body was no longer found there. And then he rose to heaven.it just tells stories about Jesus, and how Jesus died, and how he went to heaven. if that picture is supposed to be the tomb, ehh.. i seriously thought Jesus died in some kind of cave thing where they covered it with a stone though I mean, Jesus wasn't buried in that thing [the rock box thing in the picture] i'm pretty sure he wasn't What makes you think that he couldn't possibly have been buried in such a thing though? |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:41 PM
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long time no CB. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,889 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 493,502 |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:49 PM
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long time no CB. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,889 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 493,502 |
^ hmm..
wait, but how are they sure that mary was buried there? i mean she could've been buried in a different tomb with somebody else. that wasn't Jesus. |
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Mar 4 2007, 02:58 PM
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^ hmm.. They're not completely sure. They're actually just going by the names on the tombs, I think. But it's because of all of the names that were all there together that makes it possibly the tombs of Mary and Jesus's son.
wait, but how are they sure that mary was buried there? i mean she could've been buried in a different tomb with somebody else. that wasn't Jesus. |
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Mar 4 2007, 04:44 PM
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Yawn ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,530 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,772 |
Oh god, honestly. that's just the stupidest thing i've ever heard of.
There were countless Jesus's and Marys during that time. It wasn't an uncommon name. That's just a bad call from the beginning |
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Mar 4 2007, 06:46 PM
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![]() Lauren :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,105 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 176,997 |
Yeah right.
This is like people who claim to see the Virgin Mary in subways and marks on walls. I bet it was some other person named Jesus. It's not a very uncommon name. |
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Mar 4 2007, 07:31 PM
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I'll reserve my judgement until I see the documentary (which may very well never happen, but who knows) but so far, the whole thing seems more of an advertising campaign to endorse another piece of christian pseudo-science for people to buy rather than a real archeological investigation. So pigs took flight and I ended up watching it. At the light of new evidence, I am forced to retract my previous statement where I labeled the documentary "a piece of christian pseudo-science". The word science was totally out of place. It's just a piece of christian pseudo-fanfic, actually. Only instead of reading about it in a crappy website we got to see it on TV. Duh. |
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Mar 6 2007, 08:26 PM
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![]() The one man Voltron ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 711 Joined: Dec 2006 Member No: 491,519 |
A burial place was unearthed in 1980 in one of Jerusalem's suburbs during some construction works in an industrial park. The archeologist Amos Kloner then started to investigate the findings, but he has never claimed to have found the tomb of any biblical character since there's no evidence to support such a premise.
Year is now 2007. James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici disregard 27 years of investigation and produce a movie with lots of scientists in it that use flashy gear and say the acronym DNA every 5 minutes to prove that said tomb was indeed Jesus & Co. final resting place. However, all they do confirm is that the human remains found in the tombs are ... human, and approximately 2000 years old. The names were already successfully translated in the late 1990s, by the way. So all in all, nothing new has been discovered, and the hypothesis of the Tomb of Jesus is still a mere unproven theory. Then the documentary ends, and you realize James Cameron has made you piss away about an hour of your life (around 6 if you have watched Titanic). |
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Mar 6 2007, 09:33 PM
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I actually watched the documentary...
but i got really bored and fell asleep. i'm still pretty skeptical. |
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Mar 7 2007, 07:56 PM
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![]() cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
i dont think it is but hey I dont know that much.
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Mar 7 2007, 08:12 PM
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here, here, and here ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,301 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 206,103 |
Finding Jesus' tomb is like winning a lottery, so you know it has to be the tomb.
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Mar 10 2007, 09:53 AM
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![]() ALLISON ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,372 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 310,259 |
omg that is so cool
but are they positively sure its Jesus's tomb?? |
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Mar 10 2007, 10:09 AM
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Mar 10 2007, 10:15 AM
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Nonsense.
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Mar 10 2007, 07:04 PM
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this isn't a new discovery, this tomb was found in the 80s. Cameron is just making a documentary on it.
I'm pretty skeptical; there have been forgeries in the past. Plus the timing is very suspect. |
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Mar 16 2007, 01:57 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 728 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 495,803 |
Yeah that was found quite sometime ago. I believe it's true though
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Mar 17 2007, 11:18 PM
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i watched the documentry and it was very interesting. part of me thinks it's true really thinks it's true. the evidence they showed were really.. not hard to believe. they're still sort of in doubt though so i'm just confused. xP I'm not religious or anything so it doesn't concern me really.
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Mar 25 2007, 02:59 PM
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wow thats so cool.
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Apr 5 2007, 12:09 PM
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c[: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,302 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 2,876 |
hmm, i wish i would have caught the documentary. i wonder if it's actually factual. ehh. it was a while back though...hmm i don't know...mixed feelings about this at this point. lol.
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Apr 7 2007, 05:48 PM
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you know,
if they find his bones, then he's not god. not to offend people, but the bible did say that jesus rose from the dead. and uhm, they found the tomb earlier, but they had to video and record everything to say stuff. and scientists are saying that james,joseph,moses, and blahblah(i forgot) are his brothers and mary is his wife o_o;; you'll find alot of interesting theories from this, but some lady from the discovery channel was like... "you don't have permission to see these tombs." so they sealed them up again. bleh. :/ and they were SOOOO close ! i'm agnostic, so i'm interested in every jesus stuff hahah. xxx This discovery is not that great. "Jesus" and "Mary" were two very common first names during Christ's time. There's no way of knowing which Jesus and Mary are buried in that particular tomb. It's sort of like if Christ lived on earth now, and his name had been "John" or "William" or something, and 2000 years from now archaeologists were to find a grave marked "John", it would prove nothing, because there are countless Johns about. Jesus Christ was not married (that's all a farse), and his body will never be found. and that can be true too. he's got a point.xxx |
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