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Jun 24 2004, 08:58 AM
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
You must ... conform ... You must ... assimilate ... Feel the love of the Hive ...
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Jun 24 2004, 01:08 PM
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#127
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 348 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,385 |
I don't think there should be uniforms. I've worn uniforms my entire life, and I hate it.
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Jun 24 2004, 03:14 PM
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![]() The Lemon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,215 |
I prefer school uniforms as long as they're not too dorky.
I mean, most people tease each other because of the way they dress. People can be individual after school. |
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Jun 24 2004, 05:07 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
howbout this, we will have uniforms, only if the school pays for 5 complete sets, with all the stuff.
yea, then the budget challenged schools aren't so happy to make us all the same, are they. QUOTE Anyway, since I work with a lot of parents who sends their kids to private schools and academy this summer, I asked them about how they feel about uniforms, and they said they loved it. 20/20 said so. but that's the parents. they don't have to wear the uniforms. uniforms are for when you want everyone to be the same, i.e. soilders. you want uniformity. uniforms are about uniformity. they change invividuality to uniformaty. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. uniforms- uniformity. |
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Jun 24 2004, 05:11 PM
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
I go to a private school that is single sex and has uniforms, and I think there is LESS conformity and more individuality than at the public school I used to go too...
Individuality depends on a lot of different factors. While uniforms might help reduce individuality somewhat, it is inaccurate to say that it will destroy it. |
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Jun 24 2004, 06:25 PM
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![]() Nerd w// a jacket ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 379 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,782 |
i don't think they should have uniforms cause then the clothes you buy at the store would only be worn on dates,weekends,paries, etc.
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Jun 24 2004, 06:48 PM
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im' edible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 |
QUOTE(0ut-0f-c0ntr0l @ Jun 24 2004, 12:28 AM) i think school uniforms suck. people should be allowed to express their individuality, but only to a certain level. individuality? i dont see anyone wearing Power Rangers clothes to highschool. its either AE, A&F, juicy, and other brands. noo ppl dont even show a sign of individuality. sometimes i see some, but not all. but uniforms suck so i would say no to uniforms. |
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Jun 24 2004, 06:52 PM
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![]() CAN i BE your Memory? ![]() Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,810 |
thats a tuffy and only because sometimes it helps- some kids wont be jerks and such etc but other times it sucks.. cuz the uniforms suck maybe if we had a choice of how the uniform looked like then sure y not
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Jun 24 2004, 08:06 PM
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![]() 3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 |
QUOTE cuz the uniforms suck maybe if we had a choice of how the uniform looked like then sure y not Yeah, people are complainging alot about how ugly they are. If we had a choice, it could be something to your liking. WHo said it had to be a prissy skirt? |
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Jun 25 2004, 02:13 AM
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i've had a uniform for 9 years, kindergarten - 8th grade. and now i'll have one again for high school. the only good thing about it is that i didn't have to worry about what to wear the next day. the uniforms make people judge you on your shoes and hair rather than clothes. so you still have the popular people with the best hair, shoes, and jewelry. plus the uniforms were expensive anyway so it wasn't a real money saver. so i don't think schools should have mandatory uniforms. just a dress code so that girls don't come dressed like strippers and you can't see guys' boxers.
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Jun 25 2004, 08:50 AM
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(Rapid @ Jun 24 2004, 6:52 PM) thats a tuffy and only because sometimes it helps- some kids wont be jerks and such etc but other times it sucks.. cuz the uniforms suck maybe if we had a choice of how the uniform looked like then sure y not Refer to my post. We can have conformity AND moral decadence that way. |
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Jun 25 2004, 09:55 AM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
that is the ultiment solution, isn't it.
but uniforms promote uniformity. |
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Jun 25 2004, 10:07 AM
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what individuality? you mean those kids who jump on every single fad? we pretty much have uniforms already, since everyone copies each other.
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Jun 25 2004, 10:47 AM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
except not every kid does that.
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Jun 25 2004, 10:57 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 25 2004, 9:55 AM) that is the ultiment solution, isn't it. but uniforms promote uniformity. Do they? Or do they also promote cleanliness and self-respect? Trust me when I say that I dislike conformity. I realize that by saying so, everyone who's against uniform is thinking "this girl's a hypocrit"... well, not really. Conformity and the act of uniformity can not be regulated if it's something each person holds inside. As in, if you are eccentric and unique, there is no reason why something you wear on the outside should affect your wild spirit. Why be surpressed and wary of school uniforms when they are all but a mean of tangible control over a school's appropriate educational environment? And as someone else pointed out, why have the need to be all that different and then buy and wear the same AE, Pacific Sun, GAP, Banana Republic shirt that the guy/girl right next to you is wearing? Is that really individuality? |
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Jun 26 2004, 02:15 AM
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![]() Wow it's been a long time!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
the only uniform i would accept would be a sexy schoolgirl outfit. I would wear that, it'd be hot.
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Jun 26 2004, 06:04 AM
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
Exactly! We should have a uniform, but it should be slutty!!
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Jun 26 2004, 03:49 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
how "sexy" is sexy?
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Jun 26 2004, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 131 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,465 |
I think uniforms should only be worn only in elementary school...i had to for eight years...it wasnt so bad...i didnt have to worry about what to wear the next day...
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Jun 29 2004, 12:46 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
Ok.. the last couple replies.. are kinda.. eh.. out there.. so I'll try to revive this topic, shall I?
QUOTE Do they? Or do they also promote cleanliness and self-respect? How? I'm not seeing the link.. Anyways.. school uniforms shouldnt be required because there is onli (should onli be) 1 main reason for school uniforms.. and that is that they detract from the learning environment.. HOWEVER.. that reason alone should be why uniforms are NECESSARY.. so that students can focus.. and learn, instead of discussing where clothes were bought.. how much, etc.. oh and going with the sexy/slutty comments recently.. that's another reason why uniforms are necessary.. because those are too much of a distraction |
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Jun 29 2004, 01:59 AM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
might i add
that a uniform is exactly the same for everyone. i don't see how you are able to arge with the word root. uniformity- of uniform, meaning the same. that's the solution to the worlds problems. put everyone in the same clothes. but wait... didn't our friends the soviets do that? you d--- capitalists. trying to give people the freedom to choose what they wear. COMMUNISM WILL RISE!!! THE WORLD SHALL BECOME A SOCIALIST SOCIETY!!!! yes, it's a little extreme iof an interpritation. but from the same spectrum. |
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Jun 29 2004, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 29 2004, 1:59 AM) might i add that a uniform is exactly the same for everyone. i don't see how you are able to arge with the word root. uniformity- of uniform, meaning the same. that's the solution to the worlds problems. put everyone in the same clothes. but wait... didn't our friends the soviets do that? you d--- capitalists. trying to give people the freedom to choose what they wear. COMMUNISM WILL RISE!!! THE WORLD SHALL BECOME A SOCIALIST SOCIETY!!!! yes, it's a little extreme iof an interpritation. but from the same spectrum. what do uniforms have to do with economic systems? we drive cars. but wait, didn't our friends the soviets do that? oh no, we've become communist! economic freedom and personal freedom are two different things. |
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Jun 29 2004, 09:59 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE what do uniforms have to do with economic systems? we drive cars. but wait, didn't our friends the soviets do that? oh no, we've become communist! hahaha, funny QUOTE what do uniforms have to do with economic systems? we drive cars. but wait, didn't our friends the soviets do that? oh no, we've become communist! Its not the same thing because we dont drive the same cars.. QUOTE might i add that a uniform is exactly the same for everyone. i don't see how you are able to arge with the word root. uniformity- of uniform, meaning the same. that's the solution to the worlds problems. put everyone in the same clothes. but wait... didn't our friends the soviets do that? you d--- capitalists. trying to give people the freedom to choose what they wear. COMMUNISM WILL RISE!!! THE WORLD SHALL BECOME A SOCIALIST SOCIETY!!!! yes, it's a little extreme iof an interpritation. but from the same spectrum. Erm.. yeah.. soldiers in the military wear the same uniforms.. so we have communist soldiers fighting in our armies? is that what you're saying? |
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Jun 29 2004, 10:29 AM
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![]() iGackt Fan! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 296 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,742 |
QUOTE(177emories @ Jun 7 2004, 3:24 PM) i'd say have have uniforms until you go to university ^_______^" have the option here and would rather go to a private school with uniforms then an public school... but all catholic school have uniforms anyways... pros: WIth uniforms someone doe snot have to worry about what to wear the next mroe anymore... does not feel left out if they don't stay with the trend does not need to waste sooo much money buying all kindas of different clothes and updating it ever sooo often. no one would get made fun of by the way they dress... cons: no self independence... can't should your own crativity must wear what the school requires... tooo lazy to think now =) Took ze words right out of my mouth! |
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Jun 30 2004, 11:02 AM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
the army is a socialist structure.
it is, by definition. the soviets drove all the same cars, when they happened to have cars. by the way, socialist means that the government provides everything, like cars, food, equipment, and you work for them. like the army communism is that everyone shares the same stuff. communism is an economic system, but socialism is not. anyways, you didn't not adress the real issue. that uniforms are the tools of tyrants, and oppressive governments, used to supprese individuality. i was saying, that washow the soviets used them. and although that isn't the purpose of uniforms for schools it will get the same result. |
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