God is the worst murderer yet you love him. Options

[*disco infiltrator*]

What is the balance between? What cancels eachother out?

[Retrogressive]

^Hrm, that's like asking what the balance would be on the hospital pain scale. 10 would be extreme pain and 1 would be euphoria, I would guess 5 would be somewhere around contentment.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Our world is content? Not exactly how I'd label it...

And I still don't see what this "balance" is in the world; what is it between? Good/bad? Happy/sad? Ground/water?

[Retrogressive]

I'm mostly talking about nature. No, the world isn't content, but there is a balance between "good" and "bad" so that the world, as a whole, goes on. I'd rather focus more on the natural pattern, but I'm trying to explain that I see a balance in the world that keeps it running.

5) Everywhere are signs of dynamic balance : You only need to take a look at the sky and you see stars are blinking with a symmetry of lights. That's why they are called stars. On earth the snow flake are dynamic symmetries too. Mature galaxies have two pole and two sleeves to balance their swirling dance. The Moon is balanced in orbit around you and me with the prettiest face looking at us. Animals and humans are given balanced limbs and corporal structures. Mother Nature loves beautiful jewels (see above figs). Wherever there are transmissible energies in propagating quanta, there a dynamic balance is in the making. The spherical shape of all cosmic bodies tells us that everywhere in the universe the spatial realm is filled with energies that make them round. This synchronized environment of energy must extend far far beyond our observable limits of the universe. The universe is nothing but a grand concerted motion with masses and energies forever interchanging. Yet, in changing everything obeys the laws of symmetry and dynamic equilibrium. Therefore the changes are recyclable.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Stars are symmetrical?

Perhaps galaxies have two poles so there's not a charge and they don't feel that they need to get rid of electrons? All charged particles and molecules attempt to achieve neutrality.

Perhaps animals are symmetrical because, if they weren't, they wouldn't be able to stand upright and would only crawl, and crawling is not advantageous for an animal that has the ability to adapt to a more advantageous form?

Planets and other spatial objects are probably spherical because they have cores and layers that pull the matter surrounding the core to the center. When planets formed, things pulled together, and a sphere is what was achieved because that is the way that all the matter could be most closely packed.

Everything that you say has a balance and can only have a balance due to a creator has a simple scientific explanations characteristic of all matter of that type. I am still failing to see that, because these scientific things happen, something must have made them.

[sweetangel2128]

I'm mostly talking about nature. No, the world isn't content, but there is a balance between "good" and "bad" so that the world, as a whole, goes on. I'd rather focus more on the natural pattern, but I'm trying to explain that I see a balance in the world that keeps it running.

I agree, if there was no balance and lets say just good things in the world, good people things would be hectic and kaos would definitly happen. Why? Because we wouldn't learn from right and wrong and there would be no wrongs...plus it would be pretty boring.

[Jamwllms]

Dang, God is more raw than Chuck Norris.

Oh, haha. That's good.

And I don't know why. It all seems very bizarre to me too.

Was it not George Carlin who said "More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason" ?


- James.

[USCavalry]

so God killed all these people, these horrible people who deserved to die, what a fukin tradgedy. Also, he gave them a life to live in the first place, they never had to exist, i think that's insanely generous.

[Simba]

How many of you would still love your mother and father if they've killed someone?

[kimmytree]

so God killed all these people, these horrible people who deserved to die, what a fukin tradgedy. Also, he gave them a life to live in the first place, they never had to exist, i hink that's insanely generous.

I think almost anyone would rather not live at all, than to be given life just to end up suffering in the end. How is God giving a person life to begin with really that generous? For alot people, life is just a never ending struggle.

How many of you would still love your mother and father if they've killed someone?

Well, if one of my parents brutally murdered someone for no reason, I would imagine I'd hate them for it. I would love them for who they used to be, but not for what they became to be.

[USCavalry]

first of all, if life is an endless struggle shouldn't you have killed yourself by now, or those who you're reffering to, they can just cease to exist if they so choose, problem solved.

secondly, there was a reason behind God killing all those people so your point sux.

[NoSex]

secondly, there was a reason behind God killing all those people so your point sux.

Did it have anything to do with omni-benevolence?

[omgomgKATHY]

I think God gave us life with hope for us to be a better person, unfrotunately we don't always choose the right things. idk but I believe we all struggle cause we choose to struggle without exactly realizing it, but then again thats my opinion.

[kimmytree]

first of all, if life is an endless struggle shouldn't you have killed yourself by now, or those who you're reffering to, they can just cease to exist if they so choose, problem solved.

secondly, there was a reason behind God killing all those people so your point sux.

Uh okay... I never said everyones life is like that. Mine surely isnt. But back in biblical times, the people that "God killed" - what did they have to live for? Huh? I surely cant think of anything. And even today... do the happy times in life outweight the bad ones? Yeah, there are plenty of things in our lives today that make it worth it... but then for some people there arent. If I knew that one day I was going to be brutally murdered - I would rather not have been born than to go through something like that. But oh well, that's just me.

[DarkImpressions]

Ok.
Well after I read that I sorta understood it.
Butt if you are a believer of God you wont debate with his actions.
This is just my opinion

[kimmytree]

^ You mean believer in the God the Bible describes? I believe in God, but I surely dont believe in what the Bible says, about anything.

Mothers kill their children all the time claiming that God told them to. I think the stories in the Bible about God commanding people to go into cities to kill and rape people is the same kind of thing. They either *thought* God told them to do that, or they're just made up stories.

[USCavalry]

Uh okay... I never said everyones life is like that. Mine surely isnt. But back in biblical times, the people that "God killed" - what did they have to live for? Huh? I surely cant think of anything. And even today... do the happy times in life outweight the bad ones? Yeah, there are plenty of things in our lives today that make it worth it... but then for some people there arent. If I knew that one day I was going to be brutally murdered - I would rather not have been born than to go through something like that. But oh well, that's just me.

i never said everyone was like that either (reffering to individuals who believe their life is an endless struggle?) Now about the people that God killed, i'd say they lived for the sake of living, they weren't destined to die but when judgment came upon them that was that. (perhaps when Jesus defeated death he brought them all up to heaven with him, idk). And lastly, if i knew i was going to be brutally murdered i wouldnt give up all the years of my life cuz of one horrible f**king day, lmao that makes no sense. That'd be a sissy thing to do.

[cori-catastrophe]

^ You mean believer in the God the Bible describes? I believe in God, but I surely dont believe in what the Bible says, about anything.

Mothers kill their children all the time claiming that God told them to. I think the stories in the Bible about God commanding people to go into cities to kill and rape people is the same kind of thing. They either *thought* God told them to do that, or they're just made up stories.

so they're insane. how does that have any bearing on god? the bible tells no one to do any of that. give me some verses that tell "people to go into cities to kill and rape people" without a good reason.

[bamababy89]

So your parents can kill you if you don't obey them is what you just said. I mean after all they did created your pathetic little body. Now please don't post in my topic if you are going to be idiotic.
Another thing you don't understand is this isn't about if god exist or NOT, it's about how people worship this sick freak that killed many JUST FOR NOT KISSING HIS ASS.

Let me ask, If god came down right now and said kill a new born baby would you? YES or NO

BTW sorry mods but I can't respect people who basically worship Hitler.

It's hardly fair, and quite frankly pathetic to compare God to Hitler.

Hitler not only killed, but SLAUGHTERED innocent jews.

God killed vain, wicked, hanus men- who killed innocent
people and ostricized, and opressed His people.

Essentially, before the days where Christ saved us from
God's judgement and wrath, God killed the Hitler's of
this world! THANK YOU GOD.

[kimmytree]

so they're insane. how does that have any bearing on god? the bible tells no one to do any of that. give me some verses that tell "people to go into cities to kill and rape people" without a good reason.

So if they really were insane, then that would mean that God had nothing to do with any of it. I'm not trying to say that God tells us to do anything like that - but many verses claim that God told men to go into cities and kill everyone... including women and children. What could the innocent women and children have done to deserve that? There is also a story of God commanding men to go into a city and kill everyone except the virgins, to rape and take as wives. So whatever. Even if some of the men in the cities the Bible talks about did do something that was deserving of death - why would God punish the ones who were innocent? Good luck explaining that one.

[cori-catastrophe]

So if they really were insane, then that would mean that God had nothing to do with any of it. I'm not trying to say that God tells us to do anything like that - but many verses claim that God told men to go into cities and kill everyone... including women and children. What could the innocent women and children have done to deserve that? There is also a story of God commanding men to go into a city and kill everyone except the virgins, to rape and take as wives. So whatever. Even if some of the men in the cities the Bible talks about did do something that was deserving of death - why would God punish the ones who were innocent? Good luck explaining that one.

verses please?

[USCavalry]

for all you satanic god haters why don't you just kill yourself and join satan's undead legion and prepare for the apacolypse... just a thought. did i spell apacolypse right?

[cori-catastrophe]

hm. i'm still wondering about those verses as well.

[kimmytree]

hm. i'm still wondering about those verses as well.

Well give me time, my goodness.

I dont feel like typing all of these out, so you'll have to look them up for yourself.

- Numbers 37:17-18 -- God instructs them to kill every male, and every woman who is not a virgin. Then it goes on and says for them to keep the virgins as their own.

- Judges 21:10-24 -- God sends men to kill everyone in a town/village, except for the virgins. Then since there isnt enough of them for all the men, it tells them to go into another city and hide in the vineyards... and then when the women come out, to jump out and take them as wives.

- Isaiah 13:15-18 -- the murdering of children and women being raped.

And the list goes on.

[cori-catastrophe]

all of those are in the old testament.

The Old Testament chronicles the lives of Jews and others who lived before Jesus, who had been promised a savior by God, and were waiting for him. This text contains many stories about people demonstrating faith in God and also provides historical information about the era. The New Testament is unique to Christianity, for it centers around the figure of Jesus and his effect on the world. Christians believe that Jesus is the one that the Old Testament foretold, so instead of looking for a savior, they await the return of Jesus so that he can take them to his kingdom, or heaven.

edit:
- Numbers 37:17-18:uhm.numbers only goes to 36.

- Judges 21:10-24:this isn't god doing it, it's the people.

- Isaiah 13:15-18:this is telling what is going to happen.have you ever heard of the rapture?