Higher Expectations in the Graphics Section |
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 Nov 7 2006, 12:56 AM
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Not everyone have adobe programs, you know.
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Nov 7 2006, 01:12 AM
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 I use those striped graphics and the others similar to it on my myspace. |
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Nov 7 2006, 01:14 AM
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 Pocketful of Sunshine Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,690 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 289,004 |
^x2 You can make some pretty awesome looking graphics without adobe, y'know.
 LOL @ the myspace one. Ah, this reminds me of the myspace layouts.. I think there should be another deleting spree.. Hmm. |
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| *StanleyThePanda* |
Nov 7 2006, 02:00 PM
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The photos arent very good, you are right.
Especially the one with the dress (wtf?). But as for the patterns, I think they could be very useful. For backgrounds on sites, such as Myspace, or Xanga. And I also agree about the icons, though I do like the Serial Kisser one, just cause it makes me laugh. But the myspace one =  It really is up to the admins/head staff whether or not we have another House Cleaning. So until then.. I guess, dont worry about it? idk.  I do think we should have one though, yes. |
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Nov 7 2006, 03:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 3,459 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 328,021 |
I really dont like half of the graphics. I think we need to separate out the icons/photos/other graphics into different sections.
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| *Infinite.* |
Nov 7 2006, 04:28 PM
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I don't know, its not me I know that.
I don't exactly want to be rude to the other staff, all I need is more people on their bad side with me. But Jackie did go all out and made completely new rules: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=151544 and theres these: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=130778 Sometimes I just think some of the people don't even bother to look over the rules to see whats acceptable or not. The layouts, Toya and I talked about it, and we feel as if theres going to be a new house cleaning with the layouts. Because some layouts are just getting accepted and theres no need to accept them. Also, I never got the point of accepting Icons that just a have some text on it and solid color background. Seriously guys do you really think it took much effort to do something like that. I know for a fact people can make better things than that in photoshop and even ms paint. |
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| *salcha4u* |
Nov 8 2006, 12:29 AM
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Those rules are BS. I've seen every single one of them broken. IN fact, not over half of those rules are implemented for most of the graphics here.
SWA, if you don't have an adobe program, then don't make graphics. Also, I've seen amazing things made on paint. Yeah, house cleaning would be good. More than half those graphics don't deserve to even be on there... Dots and patterns are nice, but they take like...1 minute to make. Compare this to the Design Staff that have made millions of backgrounds that take at least 20. I can easily make 50 dots and call myself Official Designer. Btw these are retarded: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17979 http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17918 http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17651 (big whoop, ITS A CROPPED PICTURE) |
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Nov 8 2006, 01:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Posts: 8,274 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,001 |
QUOTE(salcha4u @ Nov 7 2006, 9:29 PM)  Those rules are BS. I've seen every single one of them broken. IN fact, not over half of those rules are implemented for most of the graphics here. SWA, if you don't have an adobe program, then don't make graphics. Also, I've seen amazing things made on paint. Yeah, house cleaning would be good. More than half those graphics don't deserve to even be on there... Dots and patterns are nice, but they take like...1 minute to make. Compare this to the Design Staff that have made millions of backgrounds that take at least 20. I can easily make 50 dots and call myself Official Designer. And I know that this may seem impossible but CAN I HELP CLEAN GRAPHICS ALSO? PLZPZPLZLZ? PLus I am sure some of those icons aren't even made by the people who submitted them. Btw these are retarded: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17979 http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17918 http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=17651 (big whoop, ITS A CROPPED PICTURE) salcha, i do have adobe program. What gives you an idea that i don't even have one? Oh? You've seen amazing things done on paint? Can I see it? Maybe, a doll ? How long does it takes to make quality graphic in Paint. Is it easy? It's rare. Look at how many cb paint tutorials are there.  Paint isnt easy.When someone claims to construct a vexel in Paint, do you believe them?  Before, you start calling it "useless crap". Moderators have different standards of approval. I liked the two "useless crap" photos that you listed. glue and book. It looks like; you can have a lot of fun with base graphic on PS. About the dress photo, it does look like crap. 
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| *salcha4u* |
Nov 8 2006, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Nov 7 2006, 10:14 PM) salcha, i do have adobe program. What gives you an idea that i don't even have one? Oh? You've seen amazing things done on paint? Can I see it? Maybe, a doll ? How long does it takes to make quality graphic in Paint. Is it easy? It's rare. Look at how many cb paint tutorials are there. Paint isnt easy.When someone claims to construct a vexel in Paint, do you believe them? Before, you start calling it "useless crap". Moderators have different standards of approval. I liked the two "useless crap" photos that you listed. glue and book. It looks like; you can have a lot of fun with base graphic on PS. About the dress photo, it does look like crap. I wasn't talking about YOU, I was talking about people in general without adobe programs since you stated that fact before. Moderators have to follow CERTAIN RULES for approval, most of those pictures don't even FIT and are USELESS. |
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| *mona lisa* |
Nov 8 2006, 01:54 AM
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Another cleaning spree would be useful, yes. The only problem I have with what you're bringing up is about useless crap. So the striped backgrounds don't take very long to make, but are they completely useless? Not in my opinion. I see a great deal of people using striped backgrounds, especially on MySpace. Several can be rejected, but not all.
And the difficulty with graphics (any submission really, but mainly graphics) is that sometimes, although it isn't necessarily that great looking, it's really not something to get a fuss over and reject. So what happens? It's accepted anyway or it's left for another mod to decide. But an important thing here is that while mods must use their best judgement, the rules/guidelines thread should be open when going through the queue. |
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Nov 8 2006, 03:34 AM
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 in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
I'll just keep my opinion simple; I agree.
Also, I'd like to bring something else up that's related with graphics. Am I the only one who finds it REALLY ANNOYING when a whole crapload of new Graphics topics come up when I "View New Posts"? Yes, I realize that they are new posts/topics, but I hate having to scroll through a bunch of stuff that I'm not likely to look at, let alone comment. The thing is, if things like graphics, tutorials, scripts, layouts, etc are in a completely different part of the createBlog site than the Forums are, then why do they come up in Forums' "View New Posts?" It's really annoying to me, and doesn't make much sense. I came to the Forums to post in the Forums, not to see what's new in Graphics. I'd rather people who submit their graphics post up collections of their contributions in a graphics subforum, not unlike the one we have right now, in order to get feedback. Because right now, it's not effective. No one's actually getting any feedback; go to any given Graphics topic and there are sad numbers of replies. One comment, if you're lucky. Just a little something I wanted to bring up...too lazy to make a new topic. |
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Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
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 (′ ･ω･｀) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
Yes I know
Some of the 'icons' are all over the internet and are posted at least twice. (wtf?)Some icons are not even icons... |
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Nov 8 2006, 10:30 AM
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 say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
I think those simple striped backgrounds SHOULD BE REMOVED.
Why? Because cB is a website which provides graphics that are of high standard and quality. I believe people can share their simple backgrounds in Graphics Resources instead. Really, isn't what that forum is supposed to be for? This will really help the graphics section look much better. The submitted graphics should be stuff that NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE, rather than what I call below-average. |
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Nov 8 2006, 10:45 AM
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t-t-t-toyaaa Group: Official Member Posts: 19,821 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,270 |
Sharing backgrounds in the graphic resource forum would be too much trouble. Why? Because some backgrounds that get submitted are worse than the ones you even pointed out. If you just let people post their own its going to become this chaotic thing, in which you guys will be posting a new topic again in the future, asking us to just go through them or create some process in which they aren't just added in there. Personally I think they are fine were they are.
Backgrounds and pattenrs can easily be considered "graphics" in a way. If you want to put them in the resource forum why not put everything else in there. All the graphics that are being accepted are pretty much resources for people anyway. QUOTE This will really help the graphics section look much better. The submitted graphics should be stuff that NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE, rather than what I call below-average. Not everyone is a genius, not everyone is the Carrie or kristina (don't take this offensively because I love you guys) or any other people that make EXTREMELY NICE GRAPHICS that no one else can make/do (ok well what majority can't do). Some people get off making decent things that everyone else can make too. So they should easily be able to be accepted if they are decent and atleast up to most/majority of the standards in the rules. If the graphic section was limited to things not everyone could make ..why would we have a photo section? Everyone can make photos so that would pretty much be eliminated. You would then have is banners/icons. And lately all icons can be made by everyone. So might as well eliminate that too. My point is changing the graphic section to things everyone can't make would pretty much eliminate the graphics section. QUOTE Yes I know Some of the 'icons' are all over the internet and are posted at least twice. (wtf?) I see your point too, but more than one mod accepts graphics so its kind of hard to keep track of whats there and whats not. I agree with Mona. Regarding the dress one, yea um thats pointless. But I don't find the backgrounds and patterns being pointless at all. QUOTE Dots and patterns are nice, but they take like...1 minute to make. Compare this to the Design Staff that have made millions of backgrounds that take at least 20. I can easily make 50 dots and call myself Official Designer. Duration doesn't mean anything. It takes some people longer than others to do things. Once you get the hang of it things don't take long at all. |
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| *Libertie* |
Nov 8 2006, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Nov 8 2006, 2:34 AM) I'll just keep my opinion simple; I agree. Also, I'd like to bring something else up that's related with graphics. Am I the only one who finds it REALLY ANNOYING when a whole crapload of new Graphics topics come up when I "View New Posts"? Yes, I realize that they are new posts/topics, but I hate having to scroll through a bunch of stuff that I'm not likely to look at, let alone comment. The thing is, if things like graphics, tutorials, scripts, layouts, etc are in a completely different part of the createBlog site than the Forums are, then why do they come up in Forums' "View New Posts?" It's really annoying to me, and doesn't make much sense. I came to the Forums to post in the Forums, not to see what's new in Graphics. I'd rather people who submit their graphics post up collections of their contributions in a graphics subforum, not unlike the one we have right now, in order to get feedback. Because right now, it's not effective. No one's actually getting any feedback; go to any given Graphics topic and there are sad numbers of replies. One comment, if you're lucky. Just a little something I wanted to bring up...too lazy to make a new topic. Just wanted to say I agree with this. There may be 20 new graphics accepted on a given day, so when you go to "view new posts" that's pretty much all you see. Defeats the purpose, yeah? Perhaps there's a way to disable this? |
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Nov 8 2006, 12:15 PM
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 Death is a promise given to us at birth Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,757 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,459 |
i agreed. People just submitting random craps. Then the mods have to rejected it. Then the user sends us hate email, saying, "why was it rejected!?" By that time, we don't even know what graphics they're talking about.
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| *mona lisa* |
Nov 8 2006, 01:59 PM
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Gigi, the reason why new submissions are visible in the "View New Posts" list is because submitting a graphic/layout/etc. makes a post in the particular sub-forum and so adds to one's post count. It was previously suggested that post count be enabled in the graphics forum so that more people would be motivated to post (though I don't see why they cannnot already comment on a graphic, but I don't have a problem with it and majority rules). The only way to get rid of that is to disable post count to how it was before.
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| *digital.fragrance* |
Nov 8 2006, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(moorepocket* @ Nov 8 2006, 12:15 PM) i agreed. People just submitting random craps. Then the mods have to rejected it. Then the user sends us hate email, saying, "why was it rejected!?" By that time, we don't even know what graphics they're talking about. Oh my gosh yes. I maybe accept 5-10 (if that) out of 100 submissions anymore. Almost every submission violates a rule. Problem is, when over 200 submissions are in the queue, it's hard to give a lot of rejection feedback. So I get these hate mails like, "So you guys just hate _[insert type of picture here]_, don't you? Have it your way." That's not an actually reply, but that is no exaggeration. I'm just so super tired of some of the random "myspace angle" pictures, blurry photos with no focus, and text icons. [/rant] |
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| *salcha4u* |
Nov 8 2006, 06:53 PM
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Maybe you should just give feedback for layouts but not graphics.
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| *digital.fragrance* |
Nov 8 2006, 07:07 PM
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^ I do give feedback for layouts all the time - no exceptions.
I just wish some people had more maturity when it comes to their responses. |
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| *sofakinglazy* |
Nov 8 2006, 07:11 PM
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Go Chou!! I'm rooting for you!
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| *Infinite.* |
Nov 8 2006, 08:55 PM
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If you have a hard time rejecting stuff just get a browser that has tabs, and open up two new tabs and put them to the graphic rules. When you come to a graphic that is going against the rules you simple copy the rule their breaking tell them their breaking that rule and give them a link to the rules that you got the thing from and tell them if they would like to submit another graphic or improve then follow the rules.
I do that now, and I rarely ever get complaints from graphics. |
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| *digital.fragrance* |
Nov 8 2006, 09:04 PM
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^ I'll do that.
 Thanks
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| *Infinite.* |
Nov 8 2006, 09:12 PM
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Yep, no problem..
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